Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Goldrickssan · 28-09-2020 06:33PM

I have a sibling in Abu Dhabi - they've started offering teachers free Covid vaccines. I told them to come home before whatever vaccine they have is made mandatory

There are vaccines in use already outside of Western medicine

funnydoggy · 28-09-2020 06:34PM

leahyl wrote: »

Cheers for that, a sudden immense sadness just came over me! Hope there will be positive news in the next few months

Of course there will be. There are now, too. As I type this there are 11 phase III vaccine trials happening across the world. That's not to count the other 41 in phase I and II. Not all of them will be successful but we only need one and going by the news lately, we are surely to get one soon.

Think of the people recovering who don't make the news. A friend of mine who is 22, got it and recovered just fine. A regular customer of mine told me her 85 year old mother had it, recovered and spent last weekend drinking baileys and singing karaoke (I kid you not).

Also, consider how many people have the virus right now that don't even know it. Leo said a few weeks ago that this is the case for the majority of people at the moment!

political analyst · 28-09-2020 06:34PM

I think social distancing in people's own homes is feasible, i.e. one person in the kitchen at any given time.

Goldengirl · 28-09-2020 06:36PM

expectationlost wrote: »

covid gave him diabetes? (or he already had it but didn't know?)

someone pointed me to this https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2018688

This ..

caveat emptor · 28-09-2020 06:37PM

Taiwan

https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1310613420501336066?s=21

stephenjmcd · 28-09-2020 06:37PM

Benimar wrote: »

We won’t have a vaccine or treatment in next 6 months according to Ronan Glynn

They've done this alot recently, its purely setting expectations. If one arrives which looks likely in Q1 2021 then they can say oh look its better than we thought.

If you follow vaccine data and I'm sure the CMO does its quite possibly there'll be one approved for use early 2021.
Frontline workers top of the queue and then work they're way through to the young who'll be last you imagine

Alf Veedersane · 28-09-2020 06:39PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Were these undiagnosed before Covid in him maybe? Diabetes from Covid is surprising for me

It has been mooted a while ago and some more studies since this report:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172220.htm

ETA the NEJM above being one of those subsequent studies

spookwoman · 28-09-2020 06:41PM

ACitizenErased · 28-09-2020 06:42PM

You'd wanna be proper out of the loop to believe a 6 month timeframe before any vaccine/treatment.

owlbethere · 28-09-2020 06:42PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Dr Glynn, "1 case led to 56 cases". A few people didn't isolate with mild symptoms let to lots of follow on infection.

I'm not watching the briefing but this sounds awful. More people bending the rules to suit themselves no doubt.

JP Liz V1 · 28-09-2020 06:43PM

Previous Mondays:
21/09:188
14/09:208
07/09:102
31/08:53
24/08:147
17/08:56
10/08:57

5-day average: 343.6

7-day average: 326.6
(Previous 7 days: 280.9)

14-day cases/100k: 89.2
(7 days ago: 71.0)

In hospital: 111
In ICU: 16

Gavan Reilly

Goldengirl · 28-09-2020 06:44PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They've done this alot recently, its purely setting expectations. If one arrives which looks likely in Q1 2021 then they can say oh look its better than we thought.

If you follow vaccine data and I'm sure the CMO does its quite possibly there'll be one approved for use early 2021.
Frontline workers top of the queue and then work they're way through to the young who'll be last you imagine

On the news earlier about 2 , one in NI and UK , and one in Ireland .
Irish one is already at the stage of commencing testing on vulnerable people so well advanced .
Btw when I say , Irish , it is a pharma company in Ireland , maybe you know the name ?

28-09-2020 06:45PM

xabi wrote: »

What are the chances he had diabetes and hypertension before he got COVID?

Am I naive to think why would he lie?

Allinall · 28-09-2020 06:46PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You'd wanna be proper out of the loop to believe a 6 month timeframe before any vaccine/treatment.

Are you saying that Ronan Glynn is out of the loop, or just that you’re more “ in the loop”?

ACitizenErased · 28-09-2020 06:46PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

On the news earlier about 2 , one in NI and UK , and one in Ireland .
Irish one is already at the stage of commencing testing on vulnerable people so well advanced .
Btw when I say , Irish , it is a pharma company in Ireland , maybe you know the name ?

Aalta Bio in Dublin and Pfizers, GSK and Thermofisher Scientific in Cork are all working on vaccines

Boggles · 28-09-2020 06:46PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They've done this alot recently, its purely setting expectations. If one arrives which looks likely in Q1 2021 then they can say oh look its better than we thought.

If you follow vaccine data and I'm sure the CMO does its quite possibly there'll be one approved for use early 2021.
Frontline workers top of the queue and then work they're way through to the young who'll be last you imagine

Vaccine doesn't = Vaccinated.

People are completely over simplifying the process.

It's far more nuanced and the hurdles are many.

On top of that it is rarely if every the first vaccine that is approved that goes on to be the one that continues to get used.

So anyone thinking Vaccine in January business as usual by the summer or even the end of next year is in for some disappointment.

Also that artificially tanned Buffon over isn't helping things, polls asking people would they take a vaccine have dropped considerably since he made it a election issue.

ACitizenErased · 28-09-2020 06:47PM

Allinall wrote: »

Are you saying that Ronan Glynn is out of the loop, or just that you’re more “ in the loop”?

He's dampening expectations so people don't get complacent. It's called media training.

funnydoggy · 28-09-2020 06:47PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

On the news earlier about 2 , one in NI and UK , and one in Ireland .
Irish one is already at the stage of commencing testing on vulnerable people so well advanced .
Btw when I say , Irish , it is a pharma company in Ireland , maybe you know the name ?

Who?

babybuilder · 28-09-2020 06:47PM

Raphael Damaged Timer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1310633494511521793

This is a staggering comment tbh. We are not currently "living with covid" theres 2 counties on lockdown and another 5 or 6 with warnings of lockdown. Daily hysteria garnered by the numbers and the C.M.O saying this is life for x amount of time. What a **** show, no plan no sign of light at the end of the tunnel.

Two counties on partial lockdown. 12 March was full lockdown. Plenty of opportunity still for covid spread within these counties.

manofwisdom · 28-09-2020 06:48PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You'd wanna be proper out of the loop to believe a 6 month timeframe before any vaccine/treatment.

Let's just say a vaccine is discovered within 3 months, how long would Ireland be waiting for it to arrive here on this island and will rural Ireland have to wait even longer?

ACitizenErased · 28-09-2020 06:48PM

Novavax is running the Northern Ireland trial.

ax530 · 28-09-2020 06:49PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

If a contact of a contact has tested positive for COVID, what's the craic? Lets say a teacher has a child whose mother went for a test on Friday and it came back positive today. The child is now self isolating until a test, but does the teacher have to?

No, unless the close contact child test comes back as positive

Allinall · 28-09-2020 06:49PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

He's dampening expectations so people don't get complacent. It's called media training.

Not the question that was asked, but thanks anyway.

ACitizenErased · 28-09-2020 06:49PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Let's just say a vaccine is discovered within 3 months, how long would Ireland be waiting for it to arrive here on this island and will rural Ireland have to wait even longer?

EU has already preordered enough for the entirety of Europe. We'll get it the same time as anyone else in Europe will.

stephenjmcd · 28-09-2020 06:49PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

On the news earlier about 2 , one in NI and UK , and one in Ireland .
Irish one is already at the stage of commencing testing on vulnerable people so well advanced .
Btw when I say , Irish , it is a pharma company in Ireland , maybe you know the name ?

Not sure to be honest there's a few it could be. I'd be surprised if Pfizer weren't involving their Irish operations in the phase 3 of their vaccine.

Hurrache · 28-09-2020 06:49PM

Raphael Damaged Timer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1310633494511521793

This is a staggering comment tbh. We are not currently "living with covid" theres 2 counties on lockdown and another 5 or 6 with warnings of lockdown. Daily hysteria garnered by the numbers and the C.M.O saying this is life for x amount of time. What a **** show, no plan no sign of light at the end of the tunnel.

Stay away from here, and avoid Covid-19 coverage in the media, this is where the daily hysteria is coming from.

DraftDodger · 28-09-2020 06:50PM

babybuilder wrote: »

Two counties on partial lockdown. 12 March was full lockdown. Plenty of opportunity still for covid spread within these counties.

There was never any full lockdown in Ireland.

ACitizenErased · 28-09-2020 06:50PM

It's not a good thing for NI to be selected for vaccine trials, by the way. Countries with extremely high incidences are selected for trials. NI is now in the same grouping as places like Brazil, Mexico, South Africa and England.

stephenjmcd · 28-09-2020 06:51PM

Boggles wrote: »

Vaccine doesn't = Vaccinated.

People are completely over simplifying the process.

It's far more nuanced and the hurdles are many.

On top of that it is rarely if every the first vaccine that is approved that goes on to be the one that continues to get used.

So anyone thinking Vaccine in January business as usual by the summer or even the end of next year is in for some disappointment.

Also that artificially tanned Buffon over isn't helping things, polls asking people would they take a vaccine have dropped considerably since he made it a election issue.

I know vaccine doesn't = vaccinated you don't need to explain that to me.

Like I say frontline and vulnerable will be priority. It'll be long after that for everyone else.

You don't need everyone vaccinated to break the chain of transmission

stephenjmcd · 28-09-2020 06:52PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Let's just say a vaccine is discovered within 3 months, how long would Ireland be waiting for it to arrive here on this island and will rural Ireland have to wait even longer?

All to be run by the EU so they'll be the ones allocating x amount to each country out of the deals done at EU level

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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