2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

PropJoe10 · 25-09-2020 06:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No, but then I can't picture a Democrat offering Trump a similar kind of courtesy or civility also. He faces unrelenting hostility 24/7.

You get what you deserve in life. Those who want respect, give respect.

25-09-2020 06:46PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Didnt know CNN have an Irish lad (Donie o'Sullivan) working for them as a reporter on technology, disinformation & politics. Anyway he went to a Trump rally and asked Trump supporters to show him their Facebook feed on their phone which had manipulated videos of Biden supposedly falling asleep during a live tv interview. When shown it was someone else who fell asleep and Biden was photoshopped into the video the Trump supporter could only say 'well its still funny'. He had nothing at all to say about the fake news that he had swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Its a good watch for an insight into the cult of Trump suppoerters. Even when shown definitive proof of fake news they refuse to believe it is fake because it doesnt follow the cults narrative.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/09/24/facebook-trump-supporters-fact-check-misinformation-orig-me.cnn

There's similar videos showing liberals quotes from Trump on immigration and asked their opinions. The answers are predictable, "racist", "xenophobic", "nazi" etc until the interviewer reveals that it was actually Obama who said the quotes. The visual clarity of seeing their brains short circuiting is amazing.

25-09-2020 06:52PM

Igotadose wrote: »

I watched that part of it live this a.m.. Seems the supporter actually admitted 'oh, I guess this one got through' that is, he was fooled, but 'oooh! Washington post' was his next comment.

When the reporter asked another attendee why he wouldn't take opinions from those that disagree with him, he said "Because those people call me stupid" and a bunch of them chimed in with "ignorant!" He went on to say, waving his arms around, "I've got thousands that agree with me!"

To me, that was particularly chilling. Glad I'm not living in the US anymore.

It really is #CULT45.

Aren't there similar people on both sides? It's like the black Trump supporters who ask Trump's protesters "how is he racist", they stumble and go all mealy mouthed because they never have facts or an actual argument. They usually only need to keep repeating the mantra that "Trump is racist" and they rarely are ever held to account as to how exactly that is the case. Total cult behaviour.

25-09-2020 06:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Obama's is incredibly respectful. Trump is likely to send multiple insulting tweets.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/obama-trump-letter-inauguration-day/index.html

For what it's worth, I think it's even more classy when the loser is gracious against the person they were directly campaigning against. Obama didn't lose to Trump, his term ended so it's much easier to do that. Maybe Obama even was slightly happy Hillary didn't get in after how nasty the 2008 primary was.

PropJoe10 · 25-09-2020 07:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

For what it's worth, I think it's even more classy when the loser is gracious against the person they were directly campaigning against. Obama didn't lose to Trump, his term ended so it's much easier to do that. Maybe Obama even was slightly happy Hillary didn't get in after how nasty the 2008 primary was.

That is some epic straw grasping right there. Why in the name of God would Hillary Clinton have been gracious towards Trump considering some of the things he said about her? By the way, she did phone him on election night to wish him well, to be rewarded with this "lock her up" crap and constant abuse from Trump for the last 4 years.

Muahahaha · 25-09-2020 07:06PM

Igotadose wrote: »

I watched that part of it live this a.m.. Seems the supporter actually admitted 'oh, I guess this one got through' that is, he was fooled, but 'oooh! Washington post' was his next comment.

When the reporter asked another attendee why he wouldn't take opinions from those that disagree with him, he said "Because those people call me stupid" and a bunch of them chimed in with "ignorant!" He went on to say, waving his arms around, "I've got thousands that agree with me!"

To me, that was particularly chilling. Glad I'm not living in the US anymore.

It really is #CULT45.

Yeah it was an eye opener to see Trump supporters literally shown fake news and when it was debunked right in front of them they still refuse to believe it. Its particularly scary that you have people like that who are so invested in the cult that they will refuse to believe what their own eyes are telling them. Whats worse is these voters will still exist even if Trump loses so they are ripe to be taken over by another cult like leader.

25-09-2020 07:06PM

PropJoe10 wrote: »

That is some epic straw grasping right there. Why in the name of God would Hillary Clinton have been gracious towards Trump considering some of the things he said about her? By the way, she did phone him on election night to wish him well, to be rewarded with this "lock her up" crap and constant abuse from Trump for the last 4 years.

I'm saying Obama might not have been too unhappy that Hillary was defeated. She pulled out every smear in the book to try and win the Democaratic nomination in 2008. Don't think there was much love lost between them but he had to suck it up and giver her a job under orders of the party who were already thinking about getting her elected after Obama.

duploelabs · 25-09-2020 07:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm saying Obama might not have been too unhappy that Hillary was defeated. She pulled out every smear in the book to try and win the Democaratic nomination in 2008. Don't think there was much love lost between them but he had to suck it up and giver her a job under orders of the party who were already thinking about getting her elected after Obama.

Well he made her secretary of state...

Danzy · 25-09-2020 07:28PM

duploelabs wrote: »

Well he made her secretary of state...

Doesn't mean he didn't hate her guts and like wise.

ohnonotgmail · 25-09-2020 07:49PM

Danzy wrote: »

Doesn't mean he didn't hate her guts and like wise.

you really shouldn't project your own hatred of her onto others.

dwayneshintzy · 25-09-2020 08:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Aren't there similar people on both sides? It's like the black Trump supporters who ask Trump's protesters "how is he racist", they stumble and go all mealy mouthed because they never have facts or an actual argument. They usually only need to keep repeating the mantra that "Trump is racist" and they rarely are ever held to account as to how exactly that is the case. Total cult behaviour.

There are plenty of instances that people can point to.....are you claiming that there's no argument to Trump being racist, or just some specific people in a video you're talking about but haven't linked?

I'm sure you'll deride the sources and ignore the content, but here's some links laying out arguments for Trump's racism. Racial discrimination in housing, the Central Park 5, Obama's birth cert, etc....

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump (wikipedia link yes, but every instance is referenced)

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 25-09-2020 08:15PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There's similar videos showing liberals quotes from Trump on immigration and asked their opinions. The answers are predictable, "racist", "xenophobic", "nazi" etc until the interviewer reveals that it was actually Obama who said the quotes. The visual clarity of seeing their brains short circuiting is amazing.

Which group would you like to be in, considering the responses to finding out they've been duped?

25-09-2020 08:17PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm saying Obama might not have been too unhappy that Hillary was defeated. She pulled out every smear in the book to try and win the Democaratic nomination in 2008. Don't think there was much love lost between them but he had to suck it up and giver her a job under orders of the party who were already thinking about getting her elected after Obama.

Wait, Trump was subjecting Obama to racist conspiracies and abuse for years. He was also intent on dismantling everything done under Obama's presidency. So Obama writing such a letter is an expectation but he has far more reason to dislike Trump over Clinton. On top of that, Clinton was in his administration so he pretty clearly got over everything that happened in 2008....

Trump supporters make some weird inferences..

y0ssar1an22 · 25-09-2020 08:26PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

There are plenty of instances that people can point to.....are you claiming that there's no argument to Trump being racist, or just some specific people in a video you're talking about but haven't linked?

I'm sure you'll deride the sources and ignore the content, but here's some links laying out arguments for Trump's racism. Racial discrimination in housing, the Central Park 5, Obama's birth cert, etc....

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump (wikipedia link yes, but every instance is referenced)

are you saying trump is racist? or there is systemic racism in existence in america? or both/neither?

not what people say, what you think.

ohnonotgmail · 25-09-2020 08:28PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

are you saying trump is racist? or there is systemic racism in existence in america? or both/neither?

not what people say, what you think.

i'm convinced he is racist. and systemic racism mos definitely exists in the US.

y0ssar1an22 · 25-09-2020 08:31PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm convinced he is racist. and systemic racism mos definitely exists in the US.

i'm sure you know the follow up questions here:

can you provide the evidence that convinced you he is a racist?

can you provide any evidence of the systemic racism?

duploelabs · 25-09-2020 08:42PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm sure you know the follow up questions here:

can you provide the evidence that convinced you he is a racist?

can you provide any evidence of the systemic racism?

The proof for the first is above

Tell me how · 25-09-2020 08:47PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

can you provide the evidence that convinced you he is a racist?

Made a point of making sure people knew he supported white supremacy.
Was prosecuted for denying a rental property to black people
Took out a full page ad advocating for the death penalty for 5 youths wrongly convicted of a crime.
His niece published in her book that he has used racial slurs.
He referred to some countries with largely black populations as ****h*le countries.
Has spoken in a derogatory manner towards US political representatives who are non-white and suggested that they aren't American.

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

can you provide any evidence of the systemic racism?

26 examples here

ohnonotgmail · 25-09-2020 08:49PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm sure you know the follow up questions here:

can you provide the evidence that convinced you he is a racist?

can you provide any evidence of the systemic racism?

sure but what would be the point? you would just ignore it. you have no interest in a debate.

25-09-2020 08:55PM

Ya I can't really see how anyone could think Trump isn't racist at this stage... Shouting he's greater for black Americans simply doesn't make it so...

ohnonotgmail · 25-09-2020 08:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ya I can't really see how anyone could think Trump isn't racist at this stage... Shouting he's greater for black Americans simply doesn't make it so...

how could he be racist, he has black people at his rallies. well, he one less than before since one of the best known ones died from covid that they probably caught at one of his rallies.

Billy Mays · 25-09-2020 09:07PM

Sounds like Donnie could do with some of those drugs sleepy joe is taking

https://mobile.twitter.com/kenolin1/status/1309347252402491392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1309347252402491392%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theforum365.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fkenolin1%2Fstatus%2F1309347252402491392%3Fs%3D21

threeball · 25-09-2020 09:07PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Didnt know CNN have an Irish lad (Donie o'Sullivan) working for them as a reporter on technology, disinformation & politics. Anyway he went to a Trump rally and asked Trump supporters to show him their Facebook feed on their phone which had manipulated videos of Biden supposedly falling asleep during a live tv interview. When shown it was someone else who fell asleep and Biden was photoshopped into the video the Trump supporter could only say 'well its still funny'. He had nothing at all to say about the fake news that he had swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Its a good watch for an insight into the cult of Trump suppoerters. Even when shown definitive proof of fake news they refuse to believe it is fake because it doesnt follow the cults narrative.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/09/24/facebook-trump-supporters-fact-check-misinformation-orig-me.cnn

Watch the social dilemma on netflix. It shows how Facebook and the other platforms just feed people the news they want to hear and that conforms with their views so they live in an echo chamber surrounded by like minded idiots all pushing the same lies and agenda. Social media is poison

y0ssar1an22 · 25-09-2020 09:08PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Made a point of making sure people knew he supported white supremacy.
Was prosecuted for denying a rental property to black people
Took out a full page ad advocating for the death penalty for 5 youths wrongly convicted of a crime.
His niece published in her book that he has used racial slurs.
He referred to some countries with largely black populations as ****h*le countries.
Has spoken in a derogatory manner towards US political representatives who are non-white and suggested that they aren't American.

26 examples here

i thought he denounced white supremacy? granted my memory is vague. Maybe you could refresh with an example?

why was he prosecuted in that instance?

hadn't heard of the 5 youths, but will read up on that now.

his niece, thats pretty incontrovertible.

referring to some countries as ****holes. was that a statement of fact or what was he talking about?

has he spoken in a similar manner to non whites? re the non americans...i presume you are talking about Kamala Harris?

the linked report...those god damn asians! cos the data suggests they are the top of the pile.

Timberrrrrrrr · 25-09-2020 09:15PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Sounds like Donnie could do with some of those drugs sleepy joe is taking

https://mobile.twitter.com/kenolin1/status/1309347252402491392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1309347252402491392%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theforum365.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fkenolin1%2Fstatus%2F1309347252402491392%3Fs%3D21

Lol, now imagine if it was Biden who had said that :pac:

ohnonotgmail · 25-09-2020 09:17PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Sounds like Donnie could do with some of those drugs sleepy joe is taking

https://mobile.twitter.com/kenolin1/status/1309347252402491392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1309347252402491392%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theforum365.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fkenolin1%2Fstatus%2F1309347252402491392%3Fs%3D21

I hope i have quoted him correctly below. anybody have any idea what he is on about? If biden said something similar he would be crucified.

Right now, in a number of states, the law allows a baby to be born from his or hers mothers womb in the ninth month. It is wrong, it has to change ...

btw, Trump really needs to use more fixadent. he sounds like a drunk when he speaks because of his loose dentures

y0ssar1an22 · 25-09-2020 09:20PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

sure but what would be the point? you would just ignore it. you have no interest in a debate.

debate is good and healthy.

i've said here previously how i was incorrect in a certain instances, or how i am open to change. i just want facts that will help me along the way!

yes, i will acknowledge my bias towards trump and I try to measure my reactions to reports factoring in that bias, be it fox or CNN.

y0ssar1an22 · 25-09-2020 09:23PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I hope i have quoted him correctly below. anybody have any idea what he is on about? If biden said something similar he would be crucified.

btw, Trump really needs to use more fixadent. he sounds like a drunk when he speaks because of his loose dentures

i'm guessing he meant aborted rather than born in the 9th month. thats the only possible explanations here?

seems like we have 2 crocks running!

duploelabs · 25-09-2020 09:24PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'm guessing he meant aborted rather than born in the 9th month. thats the only possible explanations here?

seems like we have 2 crocks running!

Has Biden said something on a par with that?

osarusan · 25-09-2020 09:25PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Took out a full page ad advocating for the death penalty for 5 youths wrongly convicted of a crime.

Trump said a good few ugly things about the Central Park 5, but I think it's pretty well documented at this stage that the ad he took out calling for the reinstatement of the death penalty called for it in cases of murder ("and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes), which excluded the Central Park 5.

That particular claim has been repeated on here again and again, even after being shown to be incorrect.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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