2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

extra gravy · 24-09-2020 11:25PM

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1309256295267041281?s=19

Damn fake news again! He's gonna be mad

Faugheen · 24-09-2020 11:35PM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1309256295267041281?s=19

Damn fake news again! He's gonna be mad

Flipping Ohio and Pennsylvania will be enough, just.

If he’s winning Ohio you have to think he’s in play in Florida, North Carolina and Georgia though.

Michigan is flipped so I’m not even including that.

The Floyd p · 24-09-2020 11:38PM

Faugheen wrote: »

Flipping Ohio and Pennsylvania will be enough, just.

If he’s winning Ohio you have to think he’s in play in Florida, North Carolina and Georgia though.

Michigan is flipped so I’m not even including that.

I've heard some say that Ohio is a lost cause and will be Trump's again. 538 have it at 52/48 Biden, which is practically nothing.

kowloon · 24-09-2020 11:46PM

I wish these magic dementia drugs that Biden is supposed to be on were availiable to the rest of humanity.

Faugheen · 24-09-2020 11:58PM

The Floyd p wrote: »

I've heard some say that Ohio is a lost cause and will be Trump's again. 538 have it at 52/48 Biden, which is practically nothing.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Ohio is actually in play. It would be a huge swing to Biden if it was.

But that poll was to hold, then I would be surprised if Ohio was an outlier and you’d have to think those other states (as well as Iowa) are all up for grabs.

At the moment I see Biden picking up Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, NE-2 and Arizona.

Michigan, Wisconsin and NE-2 are the only ones I think are definite locks though. Other two can be turned around I think

y0ssar1an22 · 25-09-2020 12:36AM

Cody montana wrote: »

I'll bump this post after the debate.

thats something i thought was a possibility.

this whole thing of biden 'losing it' was a ploy, and then eviscerate trump in the debates. would you trust him with his finger on the button? i know people criticise trump, but he has shown he's not the trigger happy person people like to think:

i mean, regardless of what side of the fence you're on; how many times did he lose his train of thought?
granted, it is cut; if that is your focus, i would urge you to look at each cut as a separate instance. how many times was his train of thought lost? maybe 15?; in a ~7 min cli.

Danzy · 25-09-2020 12:39AM

Really feels like momentum is starting to build for Trump now.

mcmoustache · 25-09-2020 12:59AM

Danzy wrote: »

Really feels like momentum is starting to build for Trump now.

Reality doesn't care for your feelings though.

Trump's not gaining supporters. To be fair, Biden isn't either. If you're feeling a buildup of support for Trump, it's just your social media feed getting crazier.

Chris_Heilong · 25-09-2020 01:12AM

Has anyone talked about the post in votes for Trump getting thrown into a ditch?

y0ssar1an22 · 25-09-2020 01:34AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Has anyone talked about the post in votes for Trump getting thrown into a ditch?

dunno if that's true or not, but if true; of course no one here will talk about it.

just remember 'orange mad bad'; like those 3 monkeys with their eyes, ears and mouth.

dwayneshintzy · 25-09-2020 01:41AM

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Has anyone talked about the post in votes for Trump getting thrown into a ditch?

How would you possibly know that they're "post in votes for Trump"?

And if you're talking about the story out of Wisconsin.......maybe Trump's sustained campaign against the USPS had something to do with it? Not that we know what's actually gone on there yet

The Floyd p · 25-09-2020 02:28AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

dunno if that's true or not, but if true; of course no one here will talk about it.

just remember 'orange mad bad'; like those 3 monkeys with their eyes, ears and mouth.

I'd be more concerned with Trump claiming victory on election night despite many post in votes needing to be counted. Especially considering a large proportion of those will be Biden votes.

Eric Cartman · 25-09-2020 03:01AM

Faugheen wrote: »

Flipping Ohio and Pennsylvania will be enough, just.

If he’s winning Ohio you have to think he’s in play in Florida, North Carolina and Georgia though.

Michigan is flipped so I’m not even including that.

Ive said it to people for a while, trump has been locking down florida, and its worked. I know he absolutely needs florida to win and biden doesn’t , but Im going to call florida for Trump right now and itll take a miracle to change that, next up he needs michigan or wisconsin and he’s doing very well in wisconsin.

Bidens path to victory has to be without florida, its not a swing state this election, its solid red

Brian? · 25-09-2020 06:29AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Ive said it to people for a while, trump has been locking down florida, and its worked. I know he absolutely needs florida to win and biden doesn’t , but Im going to call florida for Trump right now and itll take a miracle to change that, next up he needs michigan or wisconsin and he’s doing very well in wisconsin.

Bidens path to victory has to be without florida, its not a swing state this election, its solid red

Based on what exactly ? A feeling in your waters?

Florida is a straight toss up.

Kidchameleon · 25-09-2020 06:32AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Ive said it to people for a while, trump has been locking down florida, and its worked.

Check out these dance moves in Florida, he's got my vote!

extra gravy · 25-09-2020 07:47AM

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2020-daily-trail-markers-top-gop-lawmakers-dismiss-trumps-refusal-to-commit-to-a-peaceful-transfer-of-power-2020-09-24/

"unthinkable and unacceptable"

"as we have done for over two centuries we will have a legitimate & fair election"

"I've taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution, and I will uphold that oath"

Reaction from a few top Republicans to Trump's refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. Hopefully they will put their money where their mouth is and stand up to the dictator when the time comes.

ohnonotgmail · 25-09-2020 08:40AM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2020-daily-trail-markers-top-gop-lawmakers-dismiss-trumps-refusal-to-commit-to-a-peaceful-transfer-of-power-2020-09-24/

"unthinkable and unacceptable"

"as we have done for over two centuries we will have a legitimate & fair election"

"I've taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution, and I will uphold that oath"

Reaction from a few top Republicans to Trump's refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. Hopefully they will put their money where their mouth is and stand up to the dictator when the time comes.

they won't

Eric Cartman · 25-09-2020 08:42AM

Brian? wrote: »

Based on what exactly ? A feeling in your waters?

Florida is a straight toss up.

Trump has spent a reported 200 mil on florida
The israel ties are favourable to the considerable amoun of older jews. The cubans love him, multiple polls put him winning / way ahead of biden vs similar ones in 2016 v hilary

bocaman · 25-09-2020 08:48AM

If Trump were to be beaten there is no way he'd leave the White House peacefully. The groundwork has already been done.

salmocab · 25-09-2020 08:51AM

bocaman wrote: »

If Trump were to be beaten there is no way he'd leave the White House peacefully. The groundwork has already been done.

I’ve said this before, Trump is a lot of things but one of them I doubt is physically brave, he may make noise, get legal but he won’t risk his own self. He has enough fools to risk their skins but his won’t be, there’s no way he will put himself in a position that he’s physically removed.

dwayneshintzy · 25-09-2020 08:52AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Trump has spent a reported 200 mil on florida
The israel ties are favourable to the considerable amoun of older jews. The cubans love him, multiple polls put him winning / way ahead of biden vs similar ones in 2016 v hilary

On September 23rd, 2016, 538 had it as 46.3% Trump and 46.1% Clinton. Link

On September 23rd, 2020, 538 had it as 48% Biden and 46.5% Trump. Link

timsey tiger · 25-09-2020 09:02AM

real clear politics have it Biden 48.7 vs Trump 47.4 link

Eric Cartman · 25-09-2020 09:02AM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

On September 23rd, 2016, 538 had it as 46.3% Trump and 46.1% Clinton. Link

On September 23rd, 2020, 538 had it as 48% Biden and 46.5% Trump. Link

Latest ABC poll has trump ahead, but also

Scummy mike bloomberg getting desperate needing #Felons4Biden
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/517522-bloomberg-pays-fines-for-32000-felons-in-florida-so-they-can-vote

Danzy · 25-09-2020 09:09AM

bocaman wrote: »

If Trump were to be beaten there is no way he'd leave the White House peacefully. The groundwork has already been done.

He will.

His shtick this week was purely aimed to work up the priests in his opponents, they'll do wreck this weekend, this will drive them on further.

It's cynical of him but it's an open goal.

The big danger for Biden is a lot of people, especially ones who voted Democrat, see outright ideological nutjobs as having undue influence in the modern Democratic party, that a rich kid mob on the street are setting the agenda for the party.

dwayneshintzy · 25-09-2020 09:12AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Latest ABC poll has trump ahead, but also

Scummy mike bloomberg getting desperate needing #Felons4Biden
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/517522-bloomberg-pays-fines-for-32000-felons-in-florida-so-they-can-vote

OK, I haven't seen it but that's just one poll. 538 is an aggregator which takes them all into account.

Also, why shouldn't felons who've served their time be allowed to vote? The fines are in essence a poll tax, and there's a good chance it will eventually go before the Supreme Court. Since that won't be resolved by the time of this election, I see no problem with a fund to pay fines which enables people to exercise their right to vote. I'd be supportive of all such voting; I'd rather a Trump supporting convicted felon is allowed to vote, than have that vote suppressed simply so "my side" can win.

dwayneshintzy · 25-09-2020 09:13AM

Danzy wrote: »

He will.

His shtick this week was purely aimed to work up the priests in his opponents, they'll do wreck this weekend, this will drive them on further.

It's cynical of him but it's an open goal.

The big danger for Biden is a lot of people, especially ones who voted Democrat, see outright ideological nutjobs as having undue influence in the modern Democratic party, that a rich kid mob on the street are setting the agenda for the party.

How many registered Democrats do you know in the States?

What are you basing this statement on, basically?

timsey tiger · 25-09-2020 09:23AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Trump has spent a reported 200 mil on florida
The israel ties are favourable to the considerable amoun of older jews. The cubans love him, multiple polls put him winning / way ahead of biden vs similar ones in 2016 v hilary

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Latest ABC poll has trump ahead, but also

Scummy mike bloomberg getting desperate needing #Felons4Biden
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/517522-bloomberg-pays-fines-for-32000-felons-in-florida-so-they-can-vote

So, multiple now means one.

Eric Cartman · 25-09-2020 09:32AM

timsey tiger wrote: »

So, multiple now means one.

No, that poll has him winning, others have him ahead of where he was in 2016 in the same timeframe.

Fivethirtyeight have some merit but they were wrong last time and nate silver never owned up to it.

Hoop66 · 25-09-2020 09:33AM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

How can you say that when Trump has actually been asking for a extra debate?

He's been *asking* for drug tests too, do you think he'd actually submit to one?

Eric Cartman · 25-09-2020 09:33AM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

OK, I haven't seen it but that's just one poll. 538 is an aggregator which takes them all into account.

Also, why shouldn't felons who've served their time be allowed to vote? The fines are in essence a poll tax, and there's a good chance it will eventually go before the Supreme Court. Since that won't be resolved by the time of this election, I see no problem with a fund to pay fines which enables people to exercise their right to vote. I'd be supportive of all such voting; I'd rather a Trump supporting convicted felon is allowed to vote, than have that vote suppressed simply so "my side" can win.

Well agree to disagree but i don’t believe convicted felons should be allowed vote at all.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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