Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Roots 2020 · 10-09-2020 03:14PM

Breaking: MacSharry also called on Micheál Martin to "get the CMO off the telly. He is scaring the bejasis out of people."

Only in Ireland, FFS!!:D:D

seanb85 · 10-09-2020 03:14PM

scamalert wrote: »

then you must been absent for last couple decades in workforce.

No I'm just conscientious enough not to deliberately spread my germs.

Benimar · 10-09-2020 03:14PM

122 positive swabs on 12,363 swabs.

Backlog caught up.

Massive amount of tests, which is good, but hopefully we are testing everyone who needs one - the postponement of the testing in Meat Plants suggests we are at capacity.

bodhrandude · 10-09-2020 03:15PM

inthenip wrote: »

Go home to feck and stop been a selfish prick. Is the reason your staying is because you don't get sick pay?

I think that's a bit out of order dishing it out to this poster, he's asking advice about what to do as management is not offering him a solution and he seems conscientious enough to understand the risk.

eigrod · 10-09-2020 03:15PM

122 positive swabs from 12,363 tests in last 24 hours. Low positivity rate of 0.98%

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

TonyMaloney · 10-09-2020 03:16PM

Benimar wrote: »

122 positive swabs on 12,363 swabs.

Backlog caught up.

Massive amount of tests, which is good, but hopefully we are testing everyone who needs one - the postponement of the testing in Meat Plants suggests we are at capacity.

ah well, it's only 87,637 bellow our stated capacity

CalamariFritti · 10-09-2020 03:16PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

You do realise that was a fake news propaganda?

Was it? Serious question. Is that the interview with the doctor on a Spanish news program and he went the whole way 'what are you talking about?'?

Goldengirl · 10-09-2020 03:18PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

you've completely neglected hospitalisations and ICU figures.

I'm not sure of who the doctor you're talking about is, but he's definitely not working in Madrid.

Its like Cork people shrugging their shoulders and saying nothing to see here , I suppose, as cases rise everywhere , but not there ?

US2 · 10-09-2020 03:19PM

eigrod wrote: »

122 positive swabs from 12,363 tests in last 24 hours. Low positivity rate of 0.98%

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

And there we have it , 12000 wasted tests on the least vunrable people in our society. 12000 kids "diagnosed with a cold" .

drunkmonkey · 10-09-2020 03:20PM

@odyssey06

Paul Reid on the radio, 8% of asymptomatic(possibly presymptomatic/pastsymtomatic) close contacts are testing positive.

US2 · 10-09-2020 03:20PM

When is the last time we had such a low positivity rate on the swabs?

Treepole · 10-09-2020 03:21PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

ah well, it's only 87,637 bellow our stated capacity

Ah well, when you don't know the difference between daily and weekly capacity

stephenjmcd · 10-09-2020 03:21PM

Benimar wrote: »

122 positive swabs on 12,363 swabs.

Backlog caught up.

Massive amount of tests, which is good, but hopefully we are testing everyone who needs one - the postponement of the testing in Meat Plants suggests we are at capacity.

Good to see the postive swab number not really fluctuating too widely.

Extremely annoying to have the backlog to start with but very low postivity from the number of tests carried out.

I'd say this week should easily see the most amount of tests in 1 week

10-09-2020 03:21PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

You do realise that was a fake news propaganda?

Yes your quite right doctors all over Europe are lieing to us that hospitals have small numbers of very sick covid patients. Italian, Spanish and English ICU doctors all conspiring against us that there are very few people sick with covid in their hospitals. Yet people like Anthony Staines are totally on the money with their "PROJECTIONS".

igCorcaigh · 10-09-2020 03:21PM

US2 wrote: »

And there we have it , 1200 wasted tests on the least vunrable people in our society. 1200 kids "diagnosed with a cold" .

Maybe so, but diagnostic testing and surveillance testing are very different things.

drunkmonkey · 10-09-2020 03:22PM

Roots 2020 wrote: »

Breaking: MacSharry also called on Micheál Martin to "get the CMO off the telly. He is scaring the bejasis out of people."

Only in Ireland, FFS!!:D:D

This waterford whispers, it was pretty obvious from the covid committee meeting yesterday the government need to take back control and work within the law and not be led by NPHET.

TRANQUILLO · 10-09-2020 03:23PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I don't know. I'm generally in the 'we overreacted' and 'anti bullsh1t' (of which there is quite a lot) camp, but I wouldnt count my chickens just yet.

While I believe we overreacted in March I think we really had no idea of the total spread then and probably even now we don't.

I think the virus had started earlier and gone much farther than we thought in February and March. I think a lot more people than we ever thought had already been exposed to the virus. Because I'd say the number of people who dont react to it at all or people without symptoms is much bigger than we even think now.
Leading in March to a vast overestimation of severity and fatality rates. Because we only tested people with symptoms and we went with case fatality rates.

But the same circumstances may lead to us underestimating the virus now. Because we're now testing everyone not just symptomatic people we see a truer fatality rate and may get the idea this thing is over, but its quite possible that we simply are now where we were in December/January or even earlier.

I'm not saying this is true and I hope it isn't but I wouldnt rule it out just yet.

Having said that I still don't think that we will see similar to what happened in March and April. Treatment/medication is much better now and we're obviously still having quite a number of restrictions and precautions in place. But I dont think the virus has necessarily weakened or its over.

Could have written this myself. Exactly my thoughts. Reckon we were balls deep in this since before Christmas. The virus didint arrive when Leo Varadkar says it arrived. The old and infirm got lashed out of it and most of the rest of us are grand.

Thesis finito .

eigrod · 10-09-2020 03:24PM

Benimar wrote: »

122 positive swabs on 12,363 swabs.

Backlog caught up.

Massive amount of tests, which is good, but hopefully we are testing everyone who needs one - the postponement of the testing in Meat Plants suggests we are at capacity.

Based on the figures in the Tweet below and including today’s figures, I make it 1,951 positive tests reported v 2,014 positive cases reported between 27th August and 10th September - a difference of 63 more positive cases reported in those 15 days.

https://twitter.com/conorriordan2/status/1303978909856337920?s=21

10-09-2020 03:25PM

US2 wrote: »

And there we have it , 12000 wasted tests on the least vunrable people in our society. 12000 kids "diagnosed with a cold" .

Meanwhile meat plant factories go untested...

Benimar · 10-09-2020 03:27PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

ah well, it's only 87,637 bellow our stated capacity

100,000 is a weekly capacity.

scamalert · 10-09-2020 03:28PM

seanb85 wrote: »

No I'm just conscientious enough not to deliberately spread my germs.

fair enough, yet in past years when this virus wasnt around plenty of workplaces didnt care, someone would barely stand and would choose to plow away, sneezing coughing is disgusting habit yet majority hasnt changed their disgusting behavior, where consious grown adult can't even cover fcking properly if they have cold.

that said many places at risk of mass infection and that can be closed easily implemented changes which is a good step. but obviously seems some still ignore it.

il gatto · 10-09-2020 03:33PM

douglashyde wrote: »

There seems to be two things spoke about in isolation but rarely considered together by the public.

1. The seriousness of the disease: i.e. hospital loading / death rates / long term impact.

2. Number of cases going up. As a proxy this should increase point 1, above.

The data is clearly showing that while cases are going up because of a mix of factors notable an increase in referrals & testing ; Deaths or hospital loading is not going up.

As I've heard it put: It's a casedemaic not a pandemic.

Hospitalisations will lag behind by weeks. Deaths even longer. People don’t drop dead from Covid. It takes them weeks of suffering first.

political analyst · 10-09-2020 03:43PM

The percentage of non-fatal Covid cases that involve long-term serious symptoms is probably very low.

political analyst · 10-09-2020 03:43PM

il gatto wrote: »

Hospitalisations will lag behind by weeks. Deaths even longer. People don’t drop dead from Covid. It takes them weeks of suffering first.

Why?

il gatto · 10-09-2020 03:43PM

robbiezero wrote: »

I assume the evidence is that restaurants and covid meal pubs have not been a significant source of clusters and therefore opening drinking pubs on the same basis is also not expected to be a significant source of clusters.

The behaviour of patrons having a meal and a night on the piss are two different planets. Getting people with a few drinks in to social distance, wash their hands, not share drinks or cigarettes, not shout in each other’s faces, not spray spittle all over the poor staff, not spit on security etc etc is almost impossible. And with our contact tracing not working (ie: people not showing up to be tested) we really don’t know how the restaurants have affected cases yet.

Martina1991 · 10-09-2020 03:43PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

There's a few lab specialists on here, maybe they can say how many cycles they do for a test. My understanding of the video is the 78 days is the maximum days they could get a positive from a sample. Which is probably just running an unrealistic number of cycles on the sample.
There's alot more to PCR testing than just slapping it In a machine and waiting.

This is a UK article, didn't they have issues with the home samples not having enough RNA on them to conduct the test (due to being taken by the person and not someone trained) Maybe they increase the cycles to compensate for a bad collection samples?

Most assays have 40-45 cycles. Labs should determine the limit of detection of their particular assay so they know at what point to cut off and not call it ‘detected’ past a certain Ct.

There’s a lot of talk now about the Ct values (at what cycle amplification occurs) and people seem to be linking it to viral load but they shouldn’t do that.

A very high Ct could be dead RNA or could also be a badly taken swab with viral material present but needs further amplification to be detected.
A Ct value itself cannot be directly interpreted as viral load without a standard curve using reference materials, like controls. Thorough evaluation and validation of the standard curve is the key to accurately quantify the expected viral copy number, which should be done in each lab.

Sweet.Science · 10-09-2020 03:44PM

Still just 6 people in ICU. How long is this lag ?

Martina1991 · 10-09-2020 03:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Meanwhile meat plant factories go untested...

11,000 tests were carried out on meat plant workers with a positivity rate of 0.3%. They have been tested.
https://www.thejournal.ie/direct-provision-meat-plant-contracts-5198329-Sep2020/

douglashyde · 10-09-2020 03:47PM

il gatto wrote: »

Hospitalisations will lag behind by weeks. Deaths even longer. People don’t drop dead from Covid. It takes them weeks of suffering first.

The majority of symptom onset are seen in 5-6 days. Who Source.

podgeandrodge · 10-09-2020 03:47PM

il gatto wrote: »

The behaviour of patrons having a meal and a night on the piss are two different planets. Getting people with a few drinks in to social distance, wash their hands, not share drinks or cigarettes, not shout in each other’s faces, not spray spittle all over the poor staff, not spit on security etc etc is almost impossible.

Maybe in your part of the country.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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