General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

Wuff Wuff · 28-08-2020 09:44PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

Premier League legend Jermain Defoe.

https://twitter.com/elbalson/status/1299137648997609476?s=20

https://twitter.com/elbalson/status/1299354912955019265?s=20

James McLean donated 5k as well

Agent Coulson · 29-08-2020 03:01PM

Any news on when last seasons Players Player of the Year will be announced?

This seasons opener The Community Shield starts in half an hour or has the award been cancelled.

Shanotheslayer · 29-08-2020 05:34PM

Feel for Brewster in that Peno shoot out. Hopefully learns from it and doesn't dwell on it to much. Looks to have bags of potential

RasTa · 29-08-2020 07:28PM

Had no clue that was on, how come so early?

TitianGerm · 29-08-2020 07:31PM

RasTa wrote: »

Had no clue that was on, how come so early?

It's normally around the start of August isn't it? League would usually have two rounds of games played by now.

Rock77 · 29-08-2020 07:46PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

It's normally around the start of August isn't it? League would usually have two rounds of games played by now.

I’d say he means the league doesn’t kick off for 2 weeks, the community shield usually kicks off the week before the league starts..

Mushy · 29-08-2020 07:48PM

RasTa wrote: »

Had no clue that was on, how come so early?

Internationals next week

Agent Coulson · 30-08-2020 12:28PM

Has there been any reports on how the Brighton vs Chelsea game went yesterday with fans in attendance?

Agent Coulson · 30-08-2020 01:02PM

This Twitter announcement is a good one.

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/1300025219214499842?s=20

Agent Coulson · 01-09-2020 05:38PM

Anyone watch All or Nothing Spurs yet?

Reading a few reviews and I get the idea it should be renamed All or Nothing Jose.

~Rebel~ · 01-09-2020 06:01PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Anyone watch All or Nothing Spurs yet?

Reading a few reviews and I get the idea it should be renamed All or Nothing Jose.

Just seen the first two episodes so far, and yeah, he's grabbed hold of that show with both hands. Lots of very staged moments, and Jose pontificating. Even the fact that the almost-half a season Poch was there is glossed over in 20 minutes.

Also just the way Jose is presented by the show - the choices of sound bites by journalists and players/staff etc is a completely false image of who he was at the time of hiring. You'd swear it was the Jose fresh off an Inter treble we were dealing with.

Still an interesting enough watch so far though, with a lot more managerial access than the City one had (even if you have to take them with a dollop of salt).

Rock77 · 01-09-2020 08:28PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Anyone watch All or Nothing Spurs yet?

Reading a few reviews and I get the idea it should be renamed All or Nothing Jose.

Where can I watch this? (And I don’t mean who’s gaff!)

Agent Coulson · 01-09-2020 08:29PM

Rock77 wrote: »

Where can I watch this? (And I don’t mean who’s gaff!)

Amazon Prime

Mr.Crinklewood · 01-09-2020 08:30PM

Rock77 wrote: »

Where can I watch this? (And I don’t mean who’s gaff!)

Damn.

Lucas Hood · 02-09-2020 08:20AM

Watched first 3 episodes last night. Thought its good so far.

Richard Hillman · 03-09-2020 12:22PM

https://twitter.com/PLComms/status/1301482528440758273?s=19

That will be a fair bit wonga they are walking away from. No reason given but it would have to be political.

They are just going to end up with a raft of illegal streams floating around the Internet.

ArmaniJeanss · 03-09-2020 01:08PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

That will be a fair bit wonga they are walking away from. No reason given but it would have to be political.

They are just going to end up with a raft of illegal streams floating around the Internet.

Seems to be mainly financial, the company involved hasn't settled a due payment for March.

~Rebel~ · 03-09-2020 01:26PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Seems to be mainly financial, the company involved hasn't settled a due payment for March.

Seems to be a growing issue generally with money getting tight, like with the Virgin/Eir dispute.

gimli2112 · 03-09-2020 02:01PM

The beginning of the long touted end? Messi'd want to sign his next contract quick.

I don't see how Sky have been able to pay the PL such huge sums of money especially as their product has been diluted by other providers, illegal (or frowned upon, I'm never sure) streams and people just not renewing subs.

Fitz* · 03-09-2020 02:03PM

There seems to be a good few clubs in the PL that have taken out very large loans to cover the losses from lack of fans in attendance at the end of last season and for the foreseeable future. Maybe they are also using those loans to cover transfers but that can't really be proven yet. Man Utd (£140m) & Spurs (£175m) were the big two. This TV deal being cancelled puts more pressure on those clubs finances now.

A lot of the bottom half clubs would rely on the TV money so this could have a massive impact on their future, let alone their season. Leeds are playing a risky game with their big spending, and Villa seem to be creeping into another big spend again.

Without trying to fire up an inter-Liverpool fans war, maybe FSG keeping their powder dry, for now, is the more sensible option for the long term planning of the club.

rob316 · 03-09-2020 02:10PM

The next round of bidding is going to be very interesting. Surely its time for the PL to broadcast themselves over streaming, Sky and BT aren't going to keep up these fees.

~Rebel~ · 03-09-2020 02:37PM

rob316 wrote: »

The next round of bidding is going to be very interesting. Surely its time for the PL to broadcast themselves over streaming, Sky and BT aren't going to keep up these fees.

Not sure that they'll do it themselves, but I think the next rights agreement will be for more streaming packages in general. Amazon could well blow Sky and BT entirely out of the water. I don't see the money offered dropping just yet, think it's got one big upward bump left with the switch away from traditional broadcast media.

Agent Coulson · 03-09-2020 02:45PM

Premier League confirms that it has terminated its agreements for Premier League coverage in China with its rights holder partner PPTV.
Was reportedly the PL’s biggest overseas deal, worth around £490m over three-years

Termination of deal understood to be linked to PPTV withholding its latest payment due to the PL of £160m in March

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1301490750111330305?s=20

03-09-2020 03:03PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PLComms/status/1301482528440758273?s=19

That will be a fair bit wonga they are walking away from. No reason given but it would have to be political.

They are just going to end up with a raft of illegal streams floating around the Internet.

Not necessarily.

Illegal streams have to originate from a legitimate broadcast.

A lot of illegal streams originate in China.

If there is no legitimate broadcast in China then the numbers of people publishing illegal streams from China is going to diminish.

Thus there will be less streams available rather than more.

Cookiemunster · 03-09-2020 03:10PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Not necessarily.

Illegal streams have to originate from a legitimate broadcast.

A lot of illegal streams originate in China.

If there is no legitimate broadcast in China then the numbers of people publishing illegal streams from China is going to diminish.

Thus there will be less streams available rather than more.

Once BeIn and NBC are broadcasting legally (plus the mulitude of Eastern European and Spanish language channels) there'll be no shortage of streams.

03-09-2020 03:33PM

rob316 wrote: »

The next round of bidding is going to be very interesting. Surely its time for the PL to broadcast themselves over streaming, Sky and BT aren't going to keep up these fees.

I can't see why they would go alone on it.

It would be a huge financial lay out for them to get it setup, and the next few years are going to be very uncertain times.

The value of the rights will decline if you ask me, but the EPL would be still be better off selling the rights and letting someone else deal with the logistics rather than having to do it themselves.

Harry Palmr · 03-09-2020 03:40PM

If I were the PL I'd be striking a deal with youtube - scalable in every respect. You can create subscriber channels, impose country restrictions, stream at any number of bit-rates so everyone can watch without drop outs or buffering on any device.

Baggly · 03-09-2020 03:46PM

Harry Palmr wrote:

If I were the PL I'd be striking a deal with youtube - scalable in every respect. You can create subscriber channels, impose country restrictions, stream at any number of bit-rates so everyone can watch without drop outs or buffering on any device.

You aren't thinking greedily enough.

Richard Hillman · 03-09-2020 03:52PM

gimli2112 wrote: »

The beginning of the long touted end? Messi'd want to sign his next contract quick.

I don't see how Sky have been able to pay the PL such huge sums of money especially as their product has been diluted by other providers, illegal (or frowned upon, I'm never sure) streams and people just not renewing subs.

Sky are getting hit badly right now. Whenever I look at any programme, their entire ads are for Sky Programming or Sky Internet. Even for live cricket they are still full of Sky ads. Subscriptions and viewers must have fallen off a cliff. There is nobody to advertise to.

You'd think that would be for every Sports PPV channel, however I have been watching Tour De France over at Eurosport and they are full of advertisers.

Harry Palmr · 03-09-2020 03:58PM

Money and charts! Yipeee!

Swiss Ramble's 20 biggest clubs in Europe overview with all the aspects of trading taken into account for the year 2018/19.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1301048098140106752.html

PL sticking with 3 subs next (this) season.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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