Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

Podge_irl · 22-08-2020 01:33PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

George Lee was allowed to go off on a sabbatical with a political party and when it went tits up breezed back into his key journalist role expecting us to think he was impartial and neutral.

I said nothing inherently wrong, I didn't say it was always 100% above board. All professions will have chancers after all. That is also a completely different scenario so has zero relevance.

I would be amazed if the journalists who actually broke this story have never once socialised with a politician...

MayoAreMagic · 22-08-2020 01:33PM

the purple tin wrote: »

Stop projecting your personality onto everyone else please.

By asking if anyone has honestly counted the number of seats in a seating plan, rather than just looking for their own seat, and then saying we should be fair? What are you talking about?

rdwight · 22-08-2020 01:36PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

George Lee was allowed to go off on a sabbatical with a political party and when it went tits up breezed back into his key journalist role expecting us to think he was impartial and neutral.

You're right: given his perception of how FG treated him we could have expected him to be hostile to them thereafter.

the purple tin · 22-08-2020 01:40PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

By asking if anyone has honestly counted the number of seats in a seating plan, rather than just looking for their own seat, and then saying we should be fair? What are you talking about?

I'm talking about the 'let he who is without sin' bit you are pushing.
It's been done.
Do yourself a favour and drop it Mayo, nobody is falling for your patter.

mr_edge_to_you · 22-08-2020 01:40PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

George Lee was allowed to go off on a sabbatical with a political party and when it went tits up breezed back into his key journalist role expecting us to think he was impartial and neutral.

In fairness to RTÉ, when George went back to RTÉ he was given a very junior brief compared to his previous role of Economics Correspondent - something wish you washy like Environmental and now he has Science. Very much away from the really important political stuff. Always thought he was an excellent economic commentator!

Cal4567 · 22-08-2020 01:46PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

And your guess would be wrong. Im not political at all. I find people who are, see the thing through a political prism only and it limits their view. They are all the same anyway.

What i am is a realist.
We are all breaking these rules. Chasing after others to resign for things you are guilty of yourself is gobsh*te behaviour. We are going to need a solid government to get out of this well. We are going to need people well up in Europe also. Chopping and changing in a temper isnt going to give us that.
Im also experienced enough to know that this thing is probably a stitch up to some degree by someone else with some other interest, and that we are all swallowing the bait.

'a stitch up to some degree by someone else with some other interest, and that we are all swallowing the bait'.

What a load of complete bollox. Perhaps you may want to tell us who in your opinion is this 'someone else'?

Higgins5473 · 22-08-2020 01:46PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Soft ball questions like the Maria Bailey interview?

The Maria Bailey interview was very much an exception and she was clearly surprised that she wasn’t getting an easy ride from him which speaks volumes about his approach to interviewing FG members in the past. I doubt she’d have agreed to an interview like that from anyone other than O Rourke. As I said, he probably knew they wanted to be rid of her before the interview, hence his tough stance on it.

tigger123 · 22-08-2020 01:49PM

Sean O'Rourke was the opposite of a soft interviewer.

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 01:52PM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

In fairness to RTÉ, when George went back to RTÉ he was given a very junior brief compared to his previous role of Economics Correspondent - something wish you washy like Environmental and now he has Science. Very much away from the really important political stuff. Always thought he was an excellent economic commentator!

Wishy washy...when you have a key party in the government promoting environmental concerns?

Not getting bogged down in Lee...the point is the interconnectedness of select parts of the state on full view and in all it's elite glory.

Sorolla · 22-08-2020 01:53PM

I think it is time we grow up as an electorate - we’re always putting pressure on the local TD to attend funerals - sometimes even rescheduling the funeral of we get word from the Monsignor that the local TD is away on business.

Putting pressure on the local TD to present the medals to the local GAA team

Putting pressure on the local TD to fix the road

Each one of us is responsible for what happened in Clifden because we would be bitching to the local radio station if we heard our local TD missed an opportunity to meet the EU commissioner

We are the ones who should be hanging our heads in shame

22-08-2020 01:54PM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

In fairness to RTÉ, when George went back to RTÉ he was given a very junior brief compared to his previous role of Economics Correspondent - something wish you washy like Environmental and now he has Science. Very much away from the really important political stuff. Always thought he was an excellent economic commentator!

I think this was epitomised during one televised episode where he was holding a chicken. That image has never left me, I think RTE we're having a go at him.

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 01:54PM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

The Maria Bailey interview was very much an exception and she was clearly surprised that she wasn’t getting an easy ride from him which speaks volumes about his approach to interviewing FG members in the past. I doubt she’d have agreed to an interview like that from anyone other than O Rourke. As I said, he probably knew they wanted to be rid of her before the interview, hence his tough stance on it.

Maria shot herself in the foot to a large extent.

22-08-2020 01:56PM

Sorolla wrote: »

I think it is time we grow up as an electorate - we’re always putting pressure on the local TD to attend funerals - sometimes even rescheduling the funeral of we get word from the Monsignor that the local TD is away on business.

Putting pressure on the local TD to present the medals to the local GAA team

Putting pressure on the local TD to fix the road

Each one of us is responsible for what happened in Clifden because we would be bitching to the local radio station if we heard our local TD missed an opportunity to meet the EU commissioner

We are the ones who should be hanging our heads in shame

Go ahead and hang your head in shame, so. Nobody here to stop you.

completedit · 22-08-2020 01:59PM

More nonsense to fill the airwaves and to give a new angle when the news is becoming a little mundane. The Lebanon explosion didn't gain too much traction. Trump hasn't done anything outrageous and Belarus isn't as glamorous as protests in the schtates.

A public enquiry into a golf meet up and an inane argument about politicians being hypocrits as if by somehow becoming politicians, they will rise above the very human tendency to flaunt the rules and pick and choose what suits them. The same people criticising the scenes in Berlin D2 were probably only happy to pick the rules that suited them. Making a mountain out of a molehill.

Cute Hoor · 22-08-2020 02:01PM

Sorolla wrote: »

I think it is time we grow up as an electorate - we’re always putting pressure on the local TD to attend funerals - sometimes even rescheduling the funeral of we get word from the Monsignor that the local TD is away on business.

Putting pressure on the local TD to present the medals to the local GAA team

Putting pressure on the local TD to fix the road

Each one of us is responsible for what happened in Clifden because we would be bitching to the local radio station if we heard our local TD missed an opportunity to meet the EU commissioner

We are the ones who should be hanging our heads in shame

Good man/women Sorolla, back for another cast

stockshares · 22-08-2020 02:08PM

tigger123 wrote: »

Sean O'Rourke was the opposite of a soft interviewer.

Bull****. He would be just intense enough with questioning so that no one could say he gave them an easy time.

However openings for serious questions would be ignored.

He a pompous full of his own importance bully.

SeaFields · 22-08-2020 02:12PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Donie Cassidy made a statement and then added he has been advised not to comment further until the Garda investigation complete. More of the arrogance. Cowards.

Yep the legal advice chestnut. Oh how the politicians were up in arms when John Delaney used that one.

Meehole says he can't recall the Dail. Alan Kelly quickly points out the standing order showing he can.

Keep digging lads, keep digging.

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 02:15PM

stockshares wrote: »

Bull****. He would be just intense enough with questioning so that no one could say he gave them an easy time.

However openings for serious questions would be ignored.

He a pompous full of his own importance bully.

I was a fan of O'Rourke, and agree...at times you wanted him to keep pressing with the questions.

You have to ask now was the backing off because of the invitation on his mantelpiece. You'd also have to ask would the likes of Vincent Browne be invited to something like this?

FG made it quite clear to Vinnie that he was off Enda's xmas card list if he asked any hard questions.

Fann Linn · 22-08-2020 02:23PM

Sorolla wrote: »

I think it is time we grow up as an electorate - we’re always putting pressure on the local TD to attend funerals - sometimes even rescheduling the funeral of we get word from the Monsignor that the local TD is away on business.

Putting pressure on the local TD to present the medals to the local GAA team

Putting pressure on the local TD to fix the road

Each one of us is responsible for what happened in Clifden because we would be bitching to the local radio station if we heard our local TD missed an opportunity to meet the EU commissioner

We are the ones who should be hanging our heads in shame

I don't know anyone who has ever rescheduled a funeral so a TD can show up.
I think you're telling porkies.

lawrencesummers · 22-08-2020 02:27PM

RickDeckard wrote: »

Big clever witty hardman.

Heartless.

Not really, I dont take My direction from Donald Trump, and have not the time of day for anyone who does.

lawrencesummers · 22-08-2020 02:29PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

The reason as to why they should lose their jobs was put forward as being due do the fact they are public servants. I pointed out that they werent the only public servants in attendance yet are the only ones losing their jobs. Basically I was showing how that reason is nonsense.

My concern is that is our rush to stuck it to the politicians we lose sight of what is actually important - our recovery from the current situation. Weakening our own government and in particular our force in europe, isnt something to be taken so lightly.

Remember that no one has lost their job, just the creamy extras they were getting for supposedly being good at their jobs, which they have proven beyond doubt not to be the case.

He’s still a TD.
Unfortunately.

McMurphy · 22-08-2020 02:30PM

It's not a n overly long read, but it's a good one.

https://twitter.com/aoifegracemoore/status/1297059323655397376?s=19

ShamNNspace · 22-08-2020 02:33PM

When you get to a certain level in the old Republic the amount of interconnectedness becomes more and more pronounced. Politicians, captains of industry, high level bankers, the legal fraternity, journos, charity ceo's, pr guys, the lot they're all intermarried and frequent more or less the same establishments and there's a certain amount of pulling the ladder up after them at play, to be invited to one of these dos is an in and akin to being on the road to becoming a 'made guy' where different rules will apply. There is fear of a shifting of sands rather than concern for the citizens in those quarters however Its hard to see this circle being broken in the near to medium future, I see nothing to encourage me coming over the horizon, just another version of animal farm ready to play out... The needle returns to its place on the groove and we'll all sing along like before

Field east · 22-08-2020 02:45PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

glad calleary is gone, incredibly dull man

Did anyone hear that J Buttimer has resigned also.
IS THIS A RECORD!

mayoireland · 22-08-2020 02:46PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Would you go away out of that, what did he do for farmers during his time in office f ck all and when the beef strikes were on. That guy doesn’t know what day of the week it is. Leave that c nt in cork.

Well said he was a two face bastard

Mr. Karate · 22-08-2020 02:49PM

Sorolla wrote: »

I think it is time we grow up as an electorate - we’re always putting pressure on the local TD to attend funerals - sometimes even rescheduling the funeral of we get word from the Monsignor that the local TD is away on business.

Who has ever rescheduled a funeral because of a TD? Most people are happy to not have them around since they will eventually make it about them.

corcaigh07 · 22-08-2020 02:49PM

boomshakalaka wrote: »

I opened all the news sites this morning to compare headlines - tells a story, especially about RTE

Can you show some comparisons?

I agree btw, minimal coverage on RTE to suit their agenda as much as they can get away with, same as the overdoing on the Covid coverage.

Field east · 22-08-2020 02:55PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I was a fan of O'Rourke, and agree...at times you wanted him to keep pressing with the questions.

You have to ask now was the backing off because of the invitation on his mantelpiece. You'd also have to ask would the likes of Vincent Browne be invited to something like this?

FG made it quite clear to Vinnie that he was off Enda's xmas card list if he asked any hard questions.

Was the late C J Haughey not the master of being in control of ALL interviews given . Is it not the case that ‘ people of importance’ will only give interviews if it is agreed that certain questions are not asked and other questions are asked?
SO are leaders , politicians, etc at the same strategy. So please do not isolate poor Enda into a box by himself.

FrancieBrady · 22-08-2020 02:58PM

Field east wrote: »

Was the late C J Haughey not the master of being in control of ALL interviews given . Is it not the case that ‘ people of importance’ will only give interviews if it is agreed that certain questions are not asked and other questions are asked?
SO are leaders , politicians, etc at the same strategy. So please do not isolate poor Enda into a box by himself.

Field East - Enda boycotted Browne's show. You do know this?

It was fairly clear what he was saying - 'play ball or we ignore you'.

statesaver · 22-08-2020 03:01PM

Folks seem to be more angry about this than the treatment of the elderly in nursing homes during the height of Covid.

Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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