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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭josip


    So that's 2 FG scalps to FF's 1 so far ?
    Leo must be raging considering it was a FF organised event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Edgware wrote: »
    AGS can send a file to DPP but thats that. There really is **** all punishment

    Agree, it is all advisory, there is no judicial rule to back it up.

    So off everyone goes now as if they haven't already.

    This is unreal. And it would appear that those who conform will do so, but those who don't will not have to worry either.

    Watery Leadership obviously. Do as we say, but not as we do.

    But the rules are for the peasants anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Guarantee after the frenzy of media comment over the weekend this will be all over.

    The rules will still be in place for the peasants/observants.

    Just shows how the politicians hold the proletariat in their place, that is the big issue now.They obviously don't think Covid is anything to worry about as long as it is their own cohort mingling, but not us.

    F sake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Guarantee after the frenzy of media comment over the weekend this will be all over.

    The rules will still be in place for the peasants/observants.

    Just shows how the politicians hold the proletariat in their place, that is the big issue now.They obviously don't think Covid is anything to worry about as long as it is their own cohort mingling, but not us.

    F sake.

    In fairness anything good that has ever happened in this country has happened despite the leadership not because of it.

    Covid is no different , people will continue to do their best I think, they are used to being let down by their "leaders" I couldn't say that word more ironically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,928 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    That's just not true. The country has been open for weeks, people have been on staycation, going to the shops, standing in lines and still nobody is dying.

    The data is in and the fact is that people are not getting sick from this virus anymore. It has moved through the community, taken the susceptible and now that the majority of the population has been exposed has created community immunity.

    Going by antibody testing only 1.7% if the population have had the virus, we're a long way away from the 70% to 80% that would be needed for community immunity.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭Ta ceist agam


    Is there anything to be said for a Mass or Protest outside Leinster house or should I say their new location at the Convention centre

    Btw, the Dail are now meeting at the Convention centre at 25k a day for TDs to social distance meanwhile 81 of them are wined and dined at the Clifden Station house.

    Hypocricy at its finest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    In fairness anything good that has ever happened in this country has happened despite the leadership not because of it.

    Covid is no different , people will continue to do their best I think, they are used to being let down by their "leaders" I couldn't say that word more ironically.

    Yes, and sorry if it sounds off, but you are a voice in the wilderness regarding C19 leadership.

    People will do their best for their own protection, but if the leadership doesn't care some will become very cynical. And who could blame them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Leadership is lacking or should I say it is absolutely abysmal.

    Nothing else I can say will change that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    josip wrote: »
    So that's 2 FG scalps to FF's 1 so far ?
    Leo must be raging considering it was a FF organised event.

    Always about Leo.

    Weird obsession even though he wasn't there.

    Just weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    25 k a day to hire a room? What kind of budgeting imbilile was invilved innyhat - surely it cannot be right.

    I guess only allowing a limited number into the massive building they already own and the working poor pay for is too much of a basic for them to organise?

    ffs

    Meanwhile SME’s and businesses all over the country go bankrupt and people are unable to pay their mortgages because of the collapse of the economy and people making sacrifices to keep people safe. But the boyos want to paly golf and have a free meal and hide under the skirts of pretending it was to honour someone and that there was a acreen up so that was ok.


    utterly disgusting behaviour and zero values or morals from this spineless crowd of selfish ****wits


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,860 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    elperello wrote: »
    “I suppose the party leader has made it clear that everybody must pay a price for what has happened. We attended the function inadvertently, but still we have to pay a price” he told KCLR News.

    Comedy gold :)

    How does some one who lives in Kilkenny attend a function in Clifden "inadvertently" ?

    "No one more surprised than meself to find meself there".

    We're definitely into Flann O'Brien territory now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭Ta ceist agam


    25 k a day to hire a room? What kind of budgeting imbilile was invilved innyhat - surely it cannot be right.

    I guess only allowing a limited number into the massive building they already own and the working poor pay for is too much of a basic for them to organise?

    ffs

    Meanwhile SME’s and businesses all over the country go bankrupt and people are unable to pay their mortgages because of the collapse of the economy and people making sacrifices to keep people safe. But the boyos want to paly golf and have a free meal and hide under the skirts of pretending it was to honour someone and that there was a acreen up so that was ok.


    utterly disgusting behaviour and zero values or morals from this spineless crowd of selfish ****wits

    The state controlled media RTE states it here, so it's atleast 25k a day!

    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0703/1151219-convention-centre-costs/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭dabestman1


    25 k a day to hire a room? What kind of budgeting imbilile was invilved innyhat - surely it cannot be right.

    I guess only allowing a limited number into the massive building they already own and the working poor pay for is too much of a basic for them to organise?

    ffs

    Meanwhile SME’s and businesses all over the country go bankrupt and people are unable to pay their mortgages because of the collapse of the economy and people making sacrifices to keep people safe. But the boyos want to paly golf and have a free meal and hide under the skirts of pretending it was to honour someone and that there was a acreen up so that was ok.


    utterly disgusting behaviour and zero values or morals from this spineless crowd of selfish ****wits
    no rent involved, it costs 25k due to h+s costs, productions, ect
    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0703/1151219-convention-centre-costs/
    ignore i just seen the post before this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Call me paranoid but I think the Government/Media are purposefully drip feeding who was and who was not at the Golf dinner, to deflect from the real reason they were there in the first place, and it wasn't for the golf or the decor.

    Interesting to see John Sweeney and his wife sitting at the top table with the legal pals et al, as they are the company Directors of Western Railway Operations LTD, oil retailers and hotel management.

    Western Railway operations ltd may trade as Clifden Station house or Sweeney Oil.

    Cahoots!!...I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine!

    https://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Compa...Limited-573077


    Does anyone think there's a dirty connection between the Directors of Clifden Station House and the influential people they were seated with and dined with in their own hotel?

    There has been 5 mortgage/charges against Western Railway Operations ltd all on the same day this year 28th February 2020.

    John Sweeney that was seated at the table with the High court Judge , has 38 directorships spanning mainly oil retail and mining, legal and construction / planning and parkrite parking.

    https://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Direc...hn/2105755823/

    The particular Sweeney family are highly influential people worth billions.

    Why was Station House Hotel owned by the Sweeney family chosen?
    Is there a link as to why they 81 party knew the Hotel management would let the Golf party go ahead without social distancing?

    There's something very fishy going on and more questions must be asked about this relationship with the hotel owners and those that attended the Gold dinner.

    Quick lads get the f**king tin hat

    Did I see Denis O’Brien and Larry Goodman at the bar drinking pints and having the crack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Edgware wrote: »
    AGS can send a file to DPP but thats that. There really is **** all punishment

    If I was in Ireland now I definitely wouldn't be adhering to any guidelines unless all of those to*sers were removed from their positions. I've never attended a protest either but if there were protests for this I think I'd be there. Absolutely sick of these creeps. This is the last straw.

    If Hogan remains in his position, then I'll return home to vote for SF, or any other party if they promise a referendum on leaving the EU.

    Simon Harris is monitoring the situation...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Yes beacuse you know all these people personally :p:p:p:p:p


    I doubt it, he did not know Cowan was done for drink??

    The whole of th Irish Government has being discredited as apart from a few token resignations and the whip removed there was no sanction.
    The credibility of the EU parliment also in question as they have no comment on Hogan.

    I expect there be an election pretty soon so what we should once-off not go to the poles to wake up this mess our politicians as they are dragging our country down and enriching themselves and their friends in the process.
    Our whole poliitical system needs to be looked and we need people with credibility in public office.
    We have an opportunity to put it eight NOW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    Guys, I think we need to calm down here and get some perspective. Our leaders have been working very hard fighting Covid19 and some of them who happen to like golf had a bit of grub after a day pumping the irons. Big deal, easy to social distance on the green guys. As for dinner, are we seriously begrudging them a bite to eat after all they have done for us during the emergency we currently find ourselves in? As we all know a lot of work gets done on golf courses and it’s not all fun and games. I would imagine there was a lot of brainstorming going on, I admire them for taking the risk to meet up so solutions could be discussed in an informal setting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    Guys, I think we need to calm down here and get some perspective. Our leaders have been working very hard fighting Covid19 and some of them who happen to like golf had a bit of grub after a day pumping the irons. Big deal, easy to social distance on the green guys. As for dinner, are we seriously begrudging them a bite to eat after all they have done for us during the emergency we currently find ourselves in? As we all know a lot of work gets done on golf courses and it’s not all fun and games. I would imagine there was a lot of brainstorming going on, I admire them for taking the risk to meet up so solutions could be discussed in an informal setting.


    Can you give us a couple of examples?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    Can you give us a couple of examples?

    Examples of what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    Guys, I think we need to calm down here and get some perspective. Our leaders have been working very hard fighting Covid19 and some of them who happen to like golf had a bit of grub after a day pumping the irons. Big deal, easy to social distance on the green guys. As for dinner, are we seriously begrudging them a bite to eat after all they have done for us during the emergency we currently find ourselves in? As we all know a lot of work gets done on golf courses and it’s not all fun and games. I would imagine there was a lot of brainstorming going on, I admire them for taking the risk to meet up so solutions could be discussed in an informal setting.

    Your not half obvious. No one is falling for this one surely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    Examples of what?




    Examples of all the hard fighting you mention in your post.


    The dail cannot sit properly because of Covid.

    Yet these people can brainstorm on golfcourse.
    Telling us not to travel and they do as they please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Examples of all the hard fighting you mention in your post.


    The dail cannot sit properly because of Covid.

    Yet these people can brainstorm on golfcourse.
    Telling us not to travel and they do as they please.

    The Dail has been sitting for months now in the convention centre, how do you not know this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    The Dail has been sitting for months now in the convention centre, how do you not know this?


    They are not sitting as per normal.
    I notice you ask questions but you not bother answering.
    I asked you what you meant by a comment last night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭xl500


    Wonder how many more of them travelled from the 3 counties locked down

    This Guy was playing Golf in Spain and was supposed to be in isolation for 14 days but no he attended the dinner

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/former-td-attended-controversial-golf-dinner-days-after-trip-to-spain-1.4335903?fbclid=IwAR3866JjkOmvAIR73puYMzmTg2dml0U5RbrqObvLeorL4VfGwNLS6KjZX_Q


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Marty1983


    Its actually sickening reading this stuff, i returned from abroad 12 days ago and have only left the house to go for a walk and these cowboys do whatever they want. Its like the old Beatles saying about the people in cheap seats just clap along while the rich/influential rattle their jewellery.


    xl500 wrote: »
    Wonder how many more of them travelled from the 3 counties locked down

    This Guy was playing Golf in Spain and was supposed to be in isolation for 14 days but no he attended the dinner

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/former-td-attended-controversial-golf-dinner-days-after-trip-to-spain-1.4335903?fbclid=IwAR3866JjkOmvAIR73puYMzmTg2dml0U5RbrqObvLeorL4VfGwNLS6KjZX_Q


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    xl500 wrote: »
    Wonder how many more of them travelled from the 3 counties locked down

    This Guy was playing Golf in Spain and was supposed to be in isolation for 14 days but no he attended the dinner

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/former-td-attended-controversial-golf-dinner-days-after-trip-to-spain-1.4335903?fbclid=IwAR3866JjkOmvAIR73puYMzmTg2dml0U5RbrqObvLeorL4VfGwNLS6KjZX_Q

    Dude could have lead to the deaths of many people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    There are readily available COVID guidelines.
    Those guidelines deem that the planned event on Wednesday was inappropriate.
    81 of the 'cream' of Irish society attended the event.
    Did any of the 81 consider it inappropriate BEFORE they attended

    Sorry not being smart here, but 81 cream of the crop no way. They are all full of their own importance and all have shown what they are really about by attending this hotel, answer this one if bomb went off in the hotel and wiped them all out would any brains be found scattered about. No a single cell and would any of them be missed. Who would miss big Phil, the wig, Dara I am mayo and entitled and the rest of the c nts.
    Thing of all the families who lost loved ones and couldn’t attend funerals and these 81 should be all lined up against the wall and shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Perhaps he’ll give it to one of the Greens - that will piss the public right off.

    No he will give it to Larry Goodman, sure he’s running agriculture already and just make it official.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Quick lads get the f**king tin hat

    Did I see Denis O’Brien and Larry Goodman at the bar drinking pints and having the crack

    And now they’ll be seeing you in the high court for defamation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭golfball37


    It should also be noted if this virus is as serious as we are led to believe these leaders put the lives of the staff, other guests and and their families lives at risk.


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