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What % of the older pop would, to paraphrase a NI Sec of State said, be 'an acceptable level of death?

BTW I would have more faith in the terapuatics improving than a vaccine.

If for all the grandstanding and outrage and condemnation of people's carry on these past few weeks and we're still not seeing an increase in hospital cases.
What does that tell us?

Does it tell us it's ok to come out from under the duvet yet?

I honestly don't understand the same logic that stops six people from gathering how it's going to translate to 300/400/500 pupil schools opening as ok.

And it's not as if there weren't people mixing over the summer. Local cul camps had 200 children running around together.

Water John wrote: »

Just read the above post by Buford. Iv'e been following Covid in the US and it's not pretty. More older people will be infected and the number in hospital will rise and the death tally rise will then follow.

But first contact with Covid will be the worst. Second contact not as bad. Third fourth fifth etc.
You do know it's been made up as we go along. A fluid situation they call it.
We don't get immune well we do for two to six months. And then we catch it again and again.
Hospital numbers have to be the key. I know what they're doing on the testing and presuming it's first contact but if it's not and we keep going on test cases we could be here for a very long time.

Water John wrote: »

Less than 2% of the pop has had Covid. It will take an awful long time to get, herd immunity.

We were told this spreads faster and easier than the common cold. Travelled all across the globe in a few months.
We nearly had school closures in February with children off sick. And only 2% of the population has had covid.

Water John wrote: »

Less than 2% of the pop has had Covid. It will take an awful long time to get, herd immunity.

You're statement that you get 'two months immunity. And then we catch it again and again.'
That statement is simply, untrue.
Let's base any discussion on what we know, accepting their is still a lot we don't know.

This is how a coronavirus operates.
Yosemitesam had a better and different study link in a previous message here.
I think the subjects were actually given a coronavirus. But it showed immunity decreasing over time open for reinfection.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01317914

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

I don't think you're right there, Say. The severity of the disease seems to depend on the exposure level to the virus. A long exposure to it bringing more virus load, bigger immune response and higher likelihood of hospitalisation and need for ICU.
The doctor in the tweet above covers it well saying there's no change in the genetics of the virus to indicate a reduced virulence.
We're currently in a slow waltz to a major breakdown again, i think.

Doctors differ and patients die. Isn't that what they say?

Times I feel we are the guinea pigs.

How herd immunity works is every cow is always exposed to a slight virus load the whole time. Immunity is there in the wild beast. Alive and grazing.
Take your cow out of the shed and introduce it to that wild outdoor herd and the common cold will kill it.
Same explanation for the Europeans when they first discovered the Americas. Europeans were fine they had immunity to their own viruses. The native Americans had zero contact before with these viruses that the Europeans carried. It wiped out nearly half maybe more of their population.


The key is information, testing, stats, knowing what's what and where we are in the contact with the virus.

Jayus ,isn't living through this not enough ,without discussing something most of us know little about. Its not as if anyone on here has the ear of decision makers.

Say my name wrote: »

But first contact with Covid will be the worst. Second contact not as bad. Third fourth fifth etc.
You do know it's been made up as we go along. A fluid situation they call it.
We don't get immune well we do for two to six months. And then we catch it again and again.
Hospital numbers have to be the key. I know what they're doing on the testing and presuming it's first contact but if it's not and we keep going on test cases we could be here for a very long time.

That's exactly it - that twitter thread Buford posted was interesting and broad ranging.
However, one factor she didn't consider was that Europe was basically three months ahead of Florida.
As you say the first peak is the worst, followed by progressively declining peaks as herd immunity builds.
So she was comparing the first peak in Florida to the second peak in Europe, basically apple's with oranges.

Will admit to not really following all this Corona debate over the past couple of months.Been busy and its been gone as a topic of conversation around here till very recently.
Local family got a few confirmed cases recently.Looks very likely that it came from one person attending hospital.None bar that person showed any symptoms and all were actually wondering if the test was even accurate.All would be 50 plus
Bit of a 7 day wonder really.

Thing I have noticed since the latest round of "recommendations" is the amount of people staring to question all these new guidelines.These are ones that up to now were all for protecting the elderly etc etc and went along with everything without question.
Whether its the GAA/sport bits,all the contradictions or the realisation that very very few are dying or even being hospitalised with Covid 19 I dont know.

Feel people are figuring out that the "holiday" mood of the past few months (good weather,working from home,people out walking,corona money,kids off school etc etc) is not gonna last forever and life will actually have to get back to normal at some stage.
Was at a funeral last week and the family done the usual thing of lining up beside the grave.Noticable the amount of people going up to shake hands compared to even a few weeks ago

Did you really expect anything different?

God you must be awfully young !!!!

alps wrote: »

Mindset is going to take a radical change...

It's amazing what a simple golf outing can do..

**** me pink......I'm disgusted

well another minister gone.... our new administration is making the Donald's administration look like a team of All-Stars

Mooooo wrote: »

Ffs. A basic lack of fcuking cop-on. At that level inexcusable tbh. Where all attendees members of the oireacthas?

And associates..

FFS I'd say Tony Holohan would rather have been at home with his family than working 7 days a week.