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Will Ireland ever have a non-Irish Taoiseach?

  • 14-08-2020 2:02pm
    #1
    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭


    or even TD? I know Leo is the only one. It seems that Ireland is an anomaly in Europe in the sense that our legislative and executive branches of government only have whites in them. Not that there's anything wrong with a homogenous political system but it would be nice to have diversity.

    Is it a case of too few immigrants in Ireland for too short of a period (since 90s Celtic Tiger) to have broken into politics? I know Asians and Blacks have been in many European countries since the early 20th century and are much greater in numbers.


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  • #2
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moosajee_Bhamjee

    Mr Bhamjee. Close thread.


  • #3
    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    joeguevara wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moosajee_Bhamjee

    Mr Bhamjee. Close thread.

    He's not popular though. The fact that I've never heard of him says that.


  • #4
    View
    Registered Users Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭View


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    He's not popular though. The fact that I've never heard of him says that.

    No, it just indicates that you are too young to remember him.


  • #5
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    He's not popular though. The fact that I've never heard of him says that.

    He was very popular. He as a labour TD broke a FF strongold in CLare. Was known as the Indian among the cowboy. There is a lot of things that whoever one of ye is on work experience this week doesn't know. You asked would there ever be a non Irish TD. It was answered. So what more do you want.


  • #6
    Tork
    Registered Users Posts: 3,248 ✭✭✭Tork


    Are you suggesting Leo Varadkar isn't Irish?


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  • #7
    Clareman
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    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    He's not popular though. The fact that I've never heard of him says that.

    What do you mean he's not popular? He's still held in high regard in Clare in both political and his professional careers.


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Tork wrote: »
    Are you suggesting Leo Varadkar isn't Irish?

    He's half blaa


  • #9
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,285 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    He's not popular though. The fact that I've never heard of him says that.

    Yet from your OP you appear to be knowledgeable enough of the demographic makeup of the other 54 European parliaments/governments to be able to call Ireland an anomaly.


  • #10
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Your definition of Irish is quite racist

    Pure trolling OP. Use Google and cop on.

    I imagine the Taoiseach must have to have an Irish passport, yes. Would that not b'é bloody obvious?


  • #11
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Constance Markievicz was a Minister in the very first Dail and wasn't "Irish" as she was born outside of Ireland, you'd be a very brave/stupid person to call her non-Irish however


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  • #12
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    or even TD? I know Leo is the only one. It seems that Ireland is an anomaly in Europe in the sense that our legislative and executive branches of government only have whites in them. Not that there's anything wrong with a homogenous political system but it would be nice to have diversity.

    Is it a case of too few immigrants in Ireland for too short of a period (since 90s Celtic Tiger) to have broken into politics? I know Asians and Blacks have been in many European countries since the early 20th century and are much greater in numbers.

    Actually now that I think of it, Dev was born in America so there you go, we've already had 1.

    /thread :D


  • #13
    mr_fegelien
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    when I mean by non-Irish I meant (not of white Irish origin).

    So a fully black Taoiseach


  • #14
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    when I mean by non-Irish I meant (not of white Irish origin).

    So a fully black Taoiseach

    You asked for a TD. It was given. This is a racist troll thread.


  • #15
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭MFPM


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    when I mean by non-Irish I meant (not of white Irish origin).

    So a fully black Taoiseach

    Aren't you the same guy who started a thread about a 'german friend' looking to live in Blanch or Balbriggan yesterday?

    Now it's a 'non Irish' Taoiseach which apparently LV was, now you've clarified that it's not a 'non Irish Taoiseach' you're interested in but a 'Black' Taoiseach.

    Mischief making nonsense.


  • #16
    Padre_Pio
    Registered Users Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    joeguevara wrote: »
    You asked for a TD. It was given. This is a racist troll thread.

    Where's the racism exactly?


  • #17
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    or even TD? I know Leo is the only one. It seems that Ireland is an anomaly in Europe in the sense that our legislative and executive branches of government only have whites in them. Not that there's anything wrong with a homogenous political system but it would be nice to have diversity.

    Is it a case of too few immigrants in Ireland for too short of a period (since 90s Celtic Tiger) to have broken into politics? I know Asians and Blacks have been in many European countries since the early 20th century and are much greater in numbers.
    :confused:

    Only the UK has has real diversity of skin colour at ministers level.

    The European parliament and European governments lack diversity of skin colour.

    7 of the 18 MEP from a non white background were British and have obviously left because of Breixt.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2019/06/05/the-brief-eu-reflects-lack-of-diversity-in-membership


  • #18
    micosoft
    Registered Users Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭micosoft


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    or even TD? I know Leo is the only one. It seems that Ireland is an anomaly in Europe in the sense that our legislative and executive branches of government only have whites in them. Not that there's anything wrong with a homogenous political system but it would be nice to have diversity.

    Is it a case of too few immigrants in Ireland for too short of a period (since 90s Celtic Tiger) to have broken into politics? I know Asians and Blacks have been in many European countries since the early 20th century and are much greater in numbers.

    Leo is the only one of what OP? Just to be clear like, where you are coming from.


  • #19
    alroley
    Registered Users Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭alroley


    mr_fegelien wrote: »
    or even TD? I know Leo is the only one. It seems that Ireland is an anomaly in Europe in the sense that our legislative and executive branches of government only have whites in them. Not that there's anything wrong with a homogenous political system but it would be nice to have diversity.

    .

    What? He is Irish.


  • #20
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Where's the racism exactly?

    This is the second thread he has started in two days aimed at fostering negative discussion about race and migrants in Ireland, he's employing a rather sly and dishonest method.


  • #21
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭MFPM


    alroley wrote: »
    What? He is Irish.

    He knows that he's deliberately posted that to get a discussion going, he's being dishonest.


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  • #22
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,065 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    joeguevara wrote: »
    You asked for a TD. It was given. This is a racist troll thread.

    Agreed. Locked.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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