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shotgun stock question

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  • 03-08-2020 2:31pm
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    renas
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    hi everyone, quick one can we change shotgun stock by our law regulations ?


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    Grizzly 45
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    Quick answer...Depends...If you are looking at a pump or semi on an unrestricted license and putting a folder, telescoping, or quick demountable,or one with a "prominent pistol grip"[open to interpretation what such is...] Then yes .

    If it a plain old SXS or O/U or single shot and you are changing the stock from wood to wood..Go right ahead.
    Dunno if it is specific to just semis and pumps or all shotguns ,so for some reason you are going putting a folding,telescoping,prominent pistol grip,or quick demountable on a SXS,O/U or single shot shotgun , have a care as it seems to be grey legislation.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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    tudderone
    Registered Users Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭tudderone


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Quick answer...Depends...If you are looking at a pump or semi on an unrestricted license and putting a folder, telescoping, or quick demountable,or one with a "prominent pistol grip"[open to interpretation what such is...] Then yes .

    If it a plain old SXS or O/U or single shot and you are changing the stock from wood to wood..Go right ahead.
    Dunno if it is specific to just semis and pumps or all shotguns ,so for some reason you are going putting a folding,telescoping,prominent pistol grip,or quick demountable on a SXS,O/U or single shot shotgun , have a care as it seems to be grey legislation.

    Hmmmmm, what about something like this ? Things get blurry.

    TSK-lato-DX.jpg


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    renas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭renas


    tudderone wrote: »
    Hmmmmm, what about something like this ? Things get blurry.

    TSK-lato-DX.jpg

    was wondering on that one to, gun is semi and yes more or less was wondering can i add grip and more adjustable stock to suit my needs, but the one we see here also has no grip which i assume it would be just fine and its plenty space to adjust also, only down side those cost 4 times i paid for a gun it self


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    The pigeon man
    Registered Users Posts: 473 ✭✭The pigeon man


    tudderone wrote: »
    Hmmmmm, what about something like this ? Things get blurry.

    TSK-lato-DX.jpg

    Hmm. It's a telescopic stock so in my opinion that makes it a restricted firearm. You'd need to get a restricted license and supply a good and sufficient reason as to why that is required over an unrestricted firearm. Which shouldn't be difficult to do.


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    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    And there are some DTL and Oly trap O/U guns with even more "prominent pistol grips" than that. Again vague grey definitions making life difficult Somehow those kinds of stocks make all shotguns a lot more deadly to thoe PTB.:rolleyes:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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    GodsHelix
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭GodsHelix


    renas wrote: »
    hi everyone, quick one can we change shotgun stock by our law regulations ?
    I know this is quite a late reply, but I own both a Remington 700 and 870, and I purchased Magpul stocks for both of those guns. I contacted the Gardai and asked them about the legality and they said as long as they aren't folding or collapsable then they are perfectly fine. The stocks I have also have a fairly obvious pistol grip, but not so exaggerated like an AR-15 or such, so I'd say unless it's a proper pistol grip that you'd find on an assault rifle then you should be fine. If, per chance, it does happen to be the Magpul stock you're thinking of buying then I can safely say they are legal and can be imported with no issues.


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    .243
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    The pigeon man wrote: »
    Hmm. It's a telescopic stock so in my opinion that makes it a restricted firearm. You'd need to get a restricted license and supply a good and sufficient reason as to why that is required over an unrestricted firearm. Which shouldn't be difficult to do.
    thats not a telescopic stock,it’s an absorbing system for recoil,and and a “glove grip”,very little change out of €1.5k for it


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    renas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭renas


    GodsHelix wrote: »
    I know this is quite a late reply, but I own both a Remington 700 and 870, and I purchased Magpul stocks for both of those guns. I contacted the Guardai and asked them about the legality and they said as long as they aren't folding or collapsable then they are perfectly fine. The stocks I have also have a fairly obvious pistol grip, but not so exaggerated like an AR-15 or such, so I'd say unless it's a proper pistol grip that you'd find on an assault rifle then you should be fine. If, per chance, it does happen to be the Magpul stock you're thinking of buying then I can safely say they are legal and can be imported with no issues.

    would you drop some pictures of your stocks ? cheers


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    GodsHelix
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭GodsHelix


    renas wrote: »
    would you drop some pictures of your stocks ? cheers
    Sure thing. I can't acces them right now, but I'll take a picture by this evening.


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    renas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭renas


    GodsHelix wrote: »
    Sure thing. I can't acces them right now, but I'll take a picture by this evening.

    appreciate mate


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    GodsHelix
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭GodsHelix


    renas wrote: »
    appreciate mate
    Very sorry that I didn't get to upload the image yesterday. I completely forgot about it. Here are both the guns with the stocks. As you can see, the grip is a weird, yet comfortable compromise between a pistol grip and a typical rifle / shotgun stock.


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    renas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭renas


    GodsHelix wrote: »
    Very sorry that I didn't get to upload the image yesterday. I completely forgot about it. Here are both the guns with the stocks. As you can see, the grip is a weird, yet comfortable compromise between a pistol grip and a typical rifle / shotgun stock.

    dang looks beutiful for sure, and i seen you can adjust cheek hight with these also same as their length which is why i probably get one of these but before i need to look if i can make it work on baikal 153, since they dont have specific straight fit for this gun, but some of the parts can be interchangable with remingtons just i need to figure out which ones


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    GodsHelix
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭GodsHelix


    renas wrote: »
    dang looks beutiful for sure, and i seen you can adjust cheek hight with these also same as their length which is why i probably get one of these but before i need to look if i can make it work on baikal 153, since they dont have specific straight fit for this gun, but some of the parts can be interchangable with remingtons just i need to figure out which ones

    Best of luck to you! I actually love the stocks as they do generally have quite a short length of pull which makes holding them really comfortable. The rubber on the butt stock is really soft and grippy, and is very comfortable on its own. I hope you can get some way to get these on your rifle as they are definitely worth the money. I plan to get a Ruger 10/22 sometime in the future, and when I do the first thing I'm getting a Magpul stock for it, too, haha.


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    renas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭renas


    guys i have one more question regardless the places you can go out and freely shoot shotgun, we leave common sence behind as its rocking skies... just im wondering on legal side of it ,lets say i need to do few shots to inspect gun etc but gun club is hour away can i just go to local bog land and do so ?


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    Cass
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    If you have permission to be on the land and shoot on it, its within the 5km from home rule and you don't engage in game hunting then i'd imagine so, yes.

    However as you said common sense must prevail and do not go out simple because "Cass on Boards said i could". Its not legal advice, its only a best guess scenario based on the current travel and shooting restrictions.
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    renas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭renas


    Cass wrote: »
    If you have permission to be on the land and shoot on it, its within the 5km from home rule and you don't engage in game hunting then i'd imagine so, yes.

    However as you said common sense must prevail and do not go out simple because "Cass on Boards said i could". Its not legal advice, its only a best guess scenario based on the current travel and shooting restrictions.[/QUOTE

    I assume if land belongs to government it would be considered public or im wrong ? btw i made a screenshot to prove what you said lol , just messing but must admit you got me a good morning lough


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    The pigeon man
    Registered Users Posts: 473 ✭✭The pigeon man


    You must have permission to shoot on any land in Ireland. Whether it be public or privately owned.


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