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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #9092
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Saw someone post on the vaccine thread that 85% of those that make it to phase 3 are approved


    I thought Laura on Reddit (who works in a lab) said that 80% of them failed at Phase 3

    I'll have a look for her post this week if I can


  • #9093
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    polesheep wrote: »
    If you don't think that they have PR advisors then you are naive. As for the name polesheep, check out the sign up page. And do please try to post without being insulting.

    Post amended to remove sparky bit.
    I still take exception to the pr jibe. It is only used to discredit the message. A message we have no reason to believe was delivered in bad faith.


  • #9094
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    Is this a good thing or a bad thing?


    It could be read both ways tbh
    • The good: younger people survive this better
    • The not so good: more younger people are getting this through recklessness and they can then pass it onto older relatives


  • #9095
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    Was in a pretty large supervalu in cork city today. All staff were wearing masks some had a visor and I reckon 90% of Customers wearing masks or coverings

    Was in Cork city today and there was a large number wearing masks. I went to a Dunnes as well, loads of customers wearing masks but very few staff were..


  • #9096
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 916 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    It could read both ways tbh
    • The good: younger people survive this better
    • The not so good: more younger people are getting this through recklessness and they can then pass it onto older relatives

    I genuinely did not know the answer to that one.


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  • #9097
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,153 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I don't know the ins and out, and someone will no doubt enlighten me, but the Healthcare workers seem to be particularly vulnerable. Does anyone know why? They have ppe now and all that.

    They are so great going into the coalface like that knowing the stats of their colleagues all the same. Hats off.

    The clusters in other places like building sites and so on, well looks inevitable if their "bubbles" of co workers is broken.

    Stopped off in Gorey Services yesterday and honest to god, while it was absolutely spotless, there was no social distancing that I could see. Legged it after using the pristine jacks taking care all the way as you should. Look, some are careful, some are not. We might all succumb but getting into a routine now re washing hands, touching handles and surfaces and so on is a good habit I think.


  • #9098
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Lyle wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1285250259334115329?s=20

    We're a very long way from the 1st of June anyway at least!
    Some more context.


    July 20th - 6 cases from 8,402 tests
    July 13 - 11 cases from 7,664 tests
    July 6 - 4 cases from 6,529 tests
    June 29th - 24 cases from 3,340 tests
    June 22nd - 4 cases from 1,498 tests
    June 15th - 18 cases from 2,685 tests
    June 8th - 9 cases from 2,777 tests
    June 1st - 77 cases from 3,232 test


  • #9099
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,958 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    So the acting CMO says there will be a rise in cases tomorrow because of some sort of lag.

    But according to NPHET lite on here he is fear mongering and talking shít.

    Jaysus.


  • #9100
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    It could read both ways tbh
    • The good: younger people survive this better
    • The not so good: more younger people are getting this through recklessness and they can then pass it onto older relatives

    The young also seem to be refusing tests which should be punishable


  • #9101
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I thought Laura on Reddit (who works in a lab) said that 80% of them failed at Phase 3

    I'll have a look for her post this week if I can

    If a drug makes it to phase 3 it likely won’t make you worse, so having invested a lot of money to get it there the developers will try to find a use for it somewhere, even if it’s not it’s original intended use and the benifits are marginal at best. Obviously the same would not apply for vaccines


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  • #9102
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    Post amended to remove sparky bit.
    I still take exception to the pr jibe. It is only used to discredit the message. A message we have no reason to believe was delivered in bad faith.

    Thanks for the amendment.

    It's not a jibe. I first stated that we were being manipulated before the lockdown even commenced and I believe it has continued. I also said that it was to be expected and, it could be argued, was required. I worked in the industry for many years and you might be surprised just how much of your daily life is influenced by (government) PR.


  • #9103
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Did I pick up the news wrong last week, I thought every shopper in an Irish retail outlet today had to be wearing masks?

    It's one thing something getting mandated, it's another getting supermarket owners and bus "unions" (what as waste of oxygen they are) to make sure they get people to do it

    I saw a video of Costo in America earlier. Now, as bad as the country is doing overall, Costo made masks for their staff and customers absolutely compulsory and are making sure all are following their rules

    It's all starting to feel far too "shure it'll be grand" and Irish here when it comes to things like masks and who we're allowing into the country


  • #9104
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,393 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    0 deaths and 6 new cases in 24hrs.

    In a country of nearly 5 million, surely thats something to celebrate.

    There has been a lot of negative stories on the radio and TV this last week or so, are they just trying to keep us down?


  • #9105
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    Boggles wrote: »
    So the acting CMO says there will be a rise in cases tomorrow because of some sort of lag.

    But according to NPHET lite on here he is fear mongering and talking shít.

    Jaysus.

    If like last week we see 30 or so cases tomorrow I think it’s deliberate. If they know results for the full weekend then why not give them on the Monday instead of waiting a day. It makes no odds. It is bull that there’s a lag. There shouldn’t be at this stage.


  • #9106
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

    Who knows, maybe in two years we'll find out.

    Good in that the proportion of people with very bad outcomes might fall.

    Bad in that a section of the community that wasn't in the past being infected are now being infected.


  • #9107
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 916 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    It could read both ways tbh
    • The good: younger people survive this better
    • The not so good: more younger people are getting this through recklessness and they can then pass it onto older relatives

    I genuinely did not know the answer to that one.


  • #9108
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    NIMAN wrote: »
    0 deaths and 6 new cases in 24hrs.

    In a country of nearly 5 million, surely thats something to celebrate.

    There has been a lot of negative stories on the radio and TV this last week or so, are they just trying to keep us down?

    Good news doesn’t get you viewers or sell papers or get you followers on Twitter. The virgin/news talk jouros are the worst.


  • #9109
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    The young also seem to be refusing tests which should be punishable

    This bit completely baffles me

    Like, how is it not mandatory to take a test if you've been a known case for someone who tested positive?!

    What are other countries doing in this regard? It must be compulsory in dozens of countries to take a test in these circumstances right?


  • #9110
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    NIMAN wrote: »
    0 deaths and 6 new cases in 24hrs.

    In a country of nearly 5 million, surely thats something to celebrate.

    There has been a lot of negative stories on the radio and TV this last week or so, are they just trying to keep us down?

    It is certainly something to welcome, though outright celebration might be a bit premature.


  • #9111
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,857 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    Was in a pretty large supervalu in cork city today. All staff were wearing masks some had a visor and I reckon 90% of Customers wearing masks or coverings

    I’ve been in Douglas Court, Mahon and Centra Rochestown and am seeing very high compliance also


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  • #9112
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Wild Field 1831 wrote: »
    No many of us will want to buy you a drink :) I've read back through your posts and you're very knowledgeable. Apologies I've been ratty this evening.

    I've had chest problems, non Covid related, and on antibiotics and steroids for over 3 weeks, they mess up sleep etc.

    I think with the weather, hayfever over high pollen and Covid pandemic stress, sleep is an issue for many

    Now more important, what drinks will we all be having to start off :P


  • #9113
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    NIMAN wrote: »
    0 deaths and 6 new cases in 24hrs.

    In a country of nearly 5 million, surely thats something to celebrate.


    Weekly trends are where it's at for me from now on. The daily ones are like a yo yo!

    But yes, today's numbers were excellent

    From what I've read we're expecting tomorrow to be a big ish jump because of a backlog?


  • #9114
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    polesheep wrote: »
    Thanks for the amendment.

    It's not a jibe. I first stated that we were being manipulated before the lockdown even commenced and I believe it has continued. I also said that it was to be expected and, it could be argued, was required. I worked in the industry for many years and you might be surprised just how much of your daily life is influenced by (government) PR.

    I don't doubt that you are being manipulated, just not by the people you think.


  • #9115
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I think with the weather, hayfever over high pollen and Covid pandemic stress, sleep is an issue for many

    Now more important, what drinks will we all be having to start off :P

    hand sanitiser


  • #9116
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Boggles wrote: »
    So the acting CMO says there will be a rise in cases tomorrow because of some sort of lag.

    But according to NPHET lite on here he is fear mongering and talking shít.

    Jaysus.

    Don't think he's fear mongering unlike some people and TV stations but more of a tactic that the public don't get complacent.


  • #9117
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    I don't doubt that you are being manipulated, just not by the people you think.

    Ah, come on. Do you think I can't see? They're all at it.


  • #9118
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    NIMAN wrote: »
    0 deaths and 6 new cases in 24hrs.

    In a country of nearly 5 million, surely thats something to celebrate.

    There has been a lot of negative stories on the radio and TV this last week or so, are they just trying to keep us down?

    Exactly why not a bit positivity in the media, its constant scaremongering and constant talk of complacency.


  • #9119
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,393 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    It is certainly something to welcome, though outright celebration might be a bit premature.

    Its ok, I wasn't planning a big party or anything.:D


  • #9120
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    thelad95 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dublin-construction-site-closes-after-workers-test-positive-for-coronavirus-1.4308678?mode=amp

    Construction sites could become the new meat factory. Zero social distancing between workers (often not the most intelligent of people).

    Londis near me, workers all in getting lunch every day on top of each other, then sit outside eating together. Understandable that if one gets it, it'll spread like wildfire.


    I mentioned yesterday about this builder on Reddit Ireland saying worksites could be a big problem going forward


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  • #9121
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    The R number was all over the media last week, any news of it today. 1 week should be enough to give us a decent figure.


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