Covid-19 Kerry

carchaeologist · 15-07-2020 12:24AM

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

Very bad news to hear we have 3 more cases of Covid-19 in Kerry! Its really getting a bit stressful again and very worrying.

This is not unexpected though. There will be much more And the pubs are still to open. It seems to me that the older people are trying their best to adhere to the ‘rules’ but younger people don’t care.
The amount of idiots going around with masks either half on or pulled completely under their chins is ridiculous though. Absolutely no point in wearing one then.

John_Rambo · 15-07-2020 12:29AM

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

Very bad news to hear we have 3 more cases of Covid-19 in Kerry! Its really getting a bit stressful again and very worrying.

Just try and adhere to all the advice and you'll be fine. Mask, etiquette, etc... Particularly the hand washing and not touching your face and you'll be fine. Don't stress about others, there's nothing you can do about them, just avoid them.

I'm in Dublin and have been shopping for myself, our elderly neighbour and my parents in very busy shops with huge queues to get in and to pay and haven't brought C-19 in to my house, we've a new baby here too. A few families I know did. At one stage I was out from 8am till 1pm shopping the queues and crowds were that bad.

I'm a stickler for the hand washing and zero face touching.

kn · 15-07-2020 09:31AM

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

Very bad news to hear we have 3 more cases of Covid-19 in Kerry! Its really getting a bit stressful again and very worrying.

Linked to Killarney seems to be the suggestion.

Ciarrai76 · 15-07-2020 10:31AM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Just try and adhere to all the advice and you'll be fine. Mask, etiquette, etc... Particularly the hand washing and not touching your face and you'll be fine. Don't stress about others, there's nothing you can do about them, just avoid them.

I'm in Dublin and have been shopping for myself, our elderly neighbour and my parents in very busy shops with huge queues to get in and to pay and haven't brought C-19 in to my house, we've a new baby here too. A few families I know did. At one stage I was out from 8am till 1pm shopping the queues and crowds were that bad.

I'm a stickler for the hand washing and zero face touching.

Oh of course, still keeping up with hand washing and sanitising. I work in retail, so its been the norm for us for a long time now. Thankfully we have all been fine both in work and our families.

Its just annoying to see the figures start to go up again after all the hard work. But it was bound to happen with all the reopening of businesses etc.

Ciarrai76 · 15-07-2020 06:08PM

2 more cases confirmed for Kerry.

Pubs/late bars are not allowed to reopen until 10th August.

monkeysnapper · 15-07-2020 06:25PM

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

2 more cases confirmed for Kerry.

Pubs/late bars are not allowed to reopen until 10th August.

I feel sorry for the businesses affected but they couldn't open the bars .... would be a silly decision...

I also work in retail .... and a lot of our staff were talking today about wearing face masks from now on .... yes we probably should have all had them on already but we had counters covered ....

I think our bosses have decided to get face shields for everyone

Rows Grower · 15-07-2020 06:30PM

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

2 more cases confirmed for Kerry.

Pubs/late bars are not allowed to reopen until 10th August.

I think over the last couple of days most publicans accepted that they wouldn't be opening on the 20th. Reading between the lines they were given a bit of a soft landing with very little optimism expressed by any politician interviewed.

I know of 4 people who were waiting on test results today after having being in direct contact with someone who tested positive recently so to hear that there is only 2 new cases confirmed for Kerry is a relief.

Clab mor · 15-07-2020 07:51PM

kn wrote: »

Linked to Killarney seems to be the suggestion.

I think you might be incorrect here.

This is in a caravan park in ballyheigue, and the family are from Cork.

Ciarrai76 · 15-07-2020 08:12PM

Clab mor wrote: »

I think you might be incorrect here.

This is in a caravan park in ballyheigue, and the family are from Cork.

If they are not from Kerry I don't think the cases are added to the Kerry rates, I think it gets moved to where they are from. I may be wrong, but that's how I understood it to work.

Rows Grower · 15-07-2020 08:14PM

There was 2 very recently in Caherciveen and 1 in Waterville.

dobman88 · 15-07-2020 08:21PM

Clab mor wrote: »

I think you might be incorrect here.

This is in a caravan park in ballyheigue, and the family are from Cork.

I wouldnt say totally incorrect. I'd consider it linked to Killarney, regardless of where the gobshìtes came from.

https://twitter.com/kerryman_ie/status/1283434844899422210?s=19

Deep_learning · 15-07-2020 08:47PM

My understanding is that the large group who partied at a house in Killarney were from elsewhere in Ireland.

Clab mor · 15-07-2020 08:59PM

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

If they are not from Kerry I don't think the cases are added to the Kerry rates, I think it gets moved to where they are from. I may be wrong, but that's how I understood it to work.

I queried that also when I heard it. I was told they have a place of residence in Kerry so it becomes a Kerry case??

Same as someone travelling to a holiday home in Kerry for the summer?

dobman88 · 15-07-2020 08:59PM

Deep_learning wrote: »

My understanding is that the large group who partied at a house in Killarney were from elsewhere in Ireland.

Yep. It's in the article above. They travelled from all over the country but unfortunately some locals were also at the party which will mean an outbreak in Kerry, of what size is anyones guess but hopefully minimal.

wonga77 · 16-07-2020 10:41AM

Rows Grower wrote: »

There was 2 very recently in Caherciveen and 1 in Waterville.

1 in Caherciveen afaik and the one in Waterville wasn't true, a man had an allergic reaction eating seafood and an ambulance was called, that's where that rumour came from

weisses · 16-07-2020 01:02PM

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

2 more cases confirmed for Kerry.

Pubs/late bars are not allowed to reopen until 10th August.

More cases incoming, If you look at all the idiots flocking to Dingle ... No social distancing, no face masks, Fun fair is in town. Its like nothing ever happened

Igotadose · 16-07-2020 01:51PM

dobman88 wrote: »

Yep. It's in the article above. They travelled from all over the country but unfortunately some locals were also at the party which will mean an outbreak in Kerry, of what size is anyones guess but hopefully minimal.

Local rumor is the fellow who brought Covid to the party has been tested before going, but it took a week for him to receive his positive results. In Germany you get off the plane, get tested and wait 4 hours for your results. Not here in the inept HSE as always their shortcomings imperil everyone. Why can't we get results in 24 hours. They've has months now to streamline the process and we're not testing that many.

Igotadose · 16-07-2020 01:56PM

weisses wrote: »

More cases incoming, If you look at all the idiots flocking to Dingle ... No social distancing, no face masks, Fun fair is in town. Its like nothing ever happened

Just heard in Dingle about some **** refusing to pay their dining bill because service was slow. They'd turned up in a pack of 13 and behaved badly. So they f'ed off after giving out to the owner. Who, due to rules, had Cc number and contact info. Owner went to Guards, problem solved, owner paid.

Sardonicat · 16-07-2020 01:59PM

Igotadose wrote: »

Local rumor is the fellow who brought Covid to the party has been tested before going, but it took a week for him to receive his positive results. In Germany you get off the plane, get tested and wait 4 hours for your results. Not here in the inept HSE as always their shortcomings imperil everyone. Why can't we get results in 24 hours. They've has months now to streamline the process and we're not testing that many.

'If' ( and there's no way of knowing this is anything other than rumour ) this lad had been tested, either he had symptoms so presented himself for testing or was aware of contact with an infected person and was tested on that basis. He should have been isolating himself and behaving as though he was positive until such a time his results confirmed this or gave the all clear. This is basic stuff - if you need to test you need to self isolate even if you feel fine and don't have a positive result yet.

Masala · 16-07-2020 02:07PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

'If' ( and there's no way of knowing this is anything other than rumour ) this lad had been tested, either he had symptoms so presented himself for testing or was aware of contact with an infected person and was tested on that basis. He should have been isolating himself and behaving as though he was positive until such a time his results confirmed this or gave the all clear. This is basic stuff - if you need to test you need to self isolate even if you feel fine and don't have a positive result yet.

Exactly.... if you had to go for a test (as he was showing some symptoms etc) - then he should have stayed put til he got results. He has a SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY himself..... was he some some of an idiot.

No wonder the Government has to think for us and issue instructions on our behalf.

Igotadose · 16-07-2020 02:09PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

'If' ( and there's no way of knowing this is anything other than rumour ) this lad had been tested, either he had symptoms so presented himself for testing or was aware of contact with an infected person and was tested on that basis. He should have been isolating himself and behaving as though he was positive until such a time his results confirmed this or gave the all clear. This is basic stuff - if you need to test you need to self isolate even if you feel fine and don't have a positive result yet.

If he were not feeling well and had presented himself forvtesting, I agree he likely did wrong. However there was no rule nor reg he had to change his behavior. If instead the HSE mandated no contact till test results returned, maybe different results. They could mandate such should they have an effective testing process in place. There still isn't one. I regularly hear from people about not getting results or being required to test again due to spoiled tests. And it's the HSE. They're feckups.

Sardonicat · 16-07-2020 02:15PM

Igotadose wrote: »

If he were not feeling well and had presented himself forvtesting, I agree he likely did wrong. However there was no rule nor reg he had to change his behavior. If instead the HSE mandated no contact till test results returned, maybe different results. They could mandate such should they have an effective testing process in place. There still isn't one. I regularly hear from people about not getting results or being required to test again due to spoiled tests. And it's the HSE. They're feckups.

The advice is very, very clear. If you are showing symptoms or have been in contact with a known infected person you present for testing and self isolatefor 14 days or until you receive a negative result. How do you not know this? Are you telling me that if you were aware you had been in contact with an infected person and presented yourself for testing on that basis you would not self isolate unless you got a positive result?

longgonesilver · 16-07-2020 02:21PM

Healthcare and care home workers are been routinely tested. Negative results are in the high 90s??
But yes same day results might be difficult but surely next day would be possible.

Igotadose · 16-07-2020 02:55PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

The advice is very, very clear. If you are showing symptoms or have been in contact with a known infected person you present for testing and self isolatefor 14 days or until you receive a negative result. How do you not know this? Are you telling me that if you were aware you had been in contact with an infected person and presented yourself for testing on that basis you would not self isolate unless you got a positive result?

Advice, not an enforceable rule, like the self-isolation farce for US travelers to Ireland.

Ireland needs enforceable rules. And, we don't know enough of the details here - maybe he took the test on a lark. Maybe his friends were getting tested and it inspired him, but he felt find and didn't know if any of them were sick (after all, they, too, could be waiting on test results.)

Real regulations and rules, not advice at this late date. And a week to get a result is inexcusable. Heads should roll if it is true that it took a week to get a result in this case.

I am not berating anyone just triggered by this rumor it took a week for him to get his result.

Sardonicat · 16-07-2020 03:07PM

Igotadose wrote: »

Advice, not an enforceable rule, like the self-isolation farce for US travelers to Ireland.

Ireland needs enforceable rules. And, we don't know enough of the details here - maybe he took the test on a lark. Maybe his friends were getting tested and it inspired him, but he felt find and didn't know if any of them were sick (after all, they, too, could be waiting on test results.)

Real regulations and rules, not advice at this late date. And a week to get a result is inexcusable. Heads should roll if it is true that it took a week to get a result in this case.

I am not berating anyone just triggered by this rumor it took a week for him to get his result.

Do you really want to live in a state that HAS to enforce basic health advice like 'don't mix with other pepole til you're certain you're not spreading a potentially lethal virus' ? Do you have any idea what that would look like?. There is absolutely NO excuse for someone awaiting test results to not self isolate - none. But if more idiots keep blaming everybody else, from the government, to the guards, to the HSE for their own lack of responsibility you may just find out.

Igotadose · 16-07-2020 03:41PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Do you really want to live in a state that HAS to enforce basic health advice like 'don't mix with other pepole til you're certain you're not spreading a potentially lethal virus' ? Do you have any idea what that would look like?. There is absolutely NO excuse for someone awaiting test results to not self isolate - none. But if more idiots keep blaming everybody else, from the government, to the guards, to the HSE for their own lack of responsibility you may just find out.

Blame stops with consequences. Enforceable rules, you can complain when they're enforced but if it's you that's subject to enforcement, you're to blame.

And, there's no excuse for a test result to take a week. On that I think we can agree. By now 24 hours should be more than enough.

Plus we really don't know the details - rumors are that way. We'll probably never know, the HSE are sure to cover up anything that puts them in a bad light, that's the one thing it's expert at.

Listrydude · 16-07-2020 04:15PM

agreed it's taking far too long if indeed it's still taking a week but common sense (which is becoming rarer and rarer) and current advice would or should have suggest if a person has the symptoms then stay the hell at home. otherwise idiotic behaviour.

weisses · 16-07-2020 04:26PM

I'm being swabbed weekly and have results within 48 hours ...

16-07-2020 04:53PM

weisses wrote: »

More cases incoming, If you look at all the idiots flocking to Dingle ... No social distancing, no face masks, Fun fair is in town. Its like nothing ever happened

Danny HR was just speaking in the dail on radio 1.

Very certain that pubs need to open soon.

JP Liz V1 · 16-07-2020 05:41PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

'If' ( and there's no way of knowing this is anything other than rumour ) this lad had been tested, either he had symptoms so presented himself for testing or was aware of contact with an infected person and was tested on that basis. He should have been isolating himself and behaving as though he was positive until such a time his results confirmed this or gave the all clear. This is basic stuff - if you need to test you need to self isolate even if you feel fine and don't have a positive result yet.

He should be prosecuted for not self isolating, quarantining, selfish fcuker

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