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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #6632
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,857 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Green list being published Monday


  • #6633
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,568 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Green list coming on the 20th July


  • #6634
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Martin stating basically outbreaks in pubs in other countries was the reason behind pushing out phase 4.

    Also saying cases have grown to worrying levels, they always said cases would grow.

    This is actually taking the p1iss


  • #6635
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    The most depressing depressing speech i have heard in my life. Shoot me now.

    Leo please push now.


  • #6636
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    I actually cannot believe what I am hearing. He is actually so uneducated. It is an insult he is our leader.

    Uneducated in what?


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  • #6637
    Whehey!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭Whehey!


    I was in a hotel gastro bar over the weekend and I was shocked at the lack of adherence to the given safety measures issued by the government upon re opening.

    There were a group of 7 people standing drinking pints together at two tall tables to the left of us. There were no proper safety screens in place at the bars, excluding a small window placed behind the cash register hardly call it a screen I know these arnt compulsory but god look after your staff. There were people ordering pints up at the bar also, no table service I saw where the barman brings the pint down to you. I got no name or number taken for contact tracing either which I only realised once I left?

    I mean, I dunno some places will comply and others wont. In a way I'm not surprised it's been push backed but I do feel for the publicans who will go by the book and look after its staff and customers.

    And I 100% feel they should have put a ban on Americans entering the country for the time being..


  • #6638
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The green list is being still published, you actually couldn't make this up.

    You can go to a bar in a green list country, wander around wherever, come home, no quarantine but no pub.

    This country is some joke


  • #6639
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,440 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    The most depressing depressing speech i have heard in my life. Shoot me now.

    Leo please push now.

    Can't say this enough times, Sinn Fein are in agreement with the decision.


  • #6640
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Martin stating basically outbreaks in pubs in other countries was the reason behind pushing out phase 4.

    Also saying cases have grown to worrying levels, they always said cases would grow.

    This is actually taking the p1iss

    What countries?


  • #6641
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Uneducated in what?
    He quoted the R number for such a minuscule number of cases. Which we all know is irrelevant. Jesus.


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  • #6642
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stheno wrote: »
    What countries?

    Didn't say


  • #6643
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,568 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Stheno wrote: »
    What countries?

    It's a secret


  • #6644
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    masks to be mandatory but mentioned as expected no date set, legislation required


  • #6645
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Didn't say

    What a surprise

    I'm really pissed off at the lack of control over tourists coming in


  • #6646
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    He quoted the R number for such a minuscule number of cases. Which we all know is irrelevant. Jesus.

    A low R number based off low cases will rocket when you drop a cluster in. It basic stuff, christ only last week Prof Nolan said it wasn't an accurate measure anymore.

    Its so basic, another example, Germany, low R, drop a meat plant cluster in and rises to near 3, guess what it dropped right back. Its simple stuff, add a large number into a low sample set you get bigger growth.


  • #6647
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,605 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    This thread used to be the sensible one.


  • #6648
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,717 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    The green list is being still published, you actually couldn't make this up.

    You can go to a bar in a green list country, wander around wherever, come home, no quarantine but no pub.

    This country is some joke

    If you go to a country with practically zero Covid-19, then it simply isn't a risk or an issue.

    The question of whether Irish pubs should open or not is a different one.


  • #6649
    SimonTemplar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    So in the press briefing, Micheal Martin acknowledged the widespread concern about tourism from hotspots but his only response is more communication at airports and more people ringing to check if people are quarantining. That is a pathetic response.

    To put it bluntly, there is a large portion of the American population who don't give a damn about COVID and will travel around the country no matter how many forms they fill out at the airport. Tourism from America needs to be cancelled until they are no longer a COVID basket case.


  • #6650
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    The most depressing depressing speech i have heard in my life. Shoot me now.

    Leo please push now.

    He's the Tanaiste and FG in government with FF. You'd swear he had retired or something


  • #6651
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The confirmed infection rate up to 3.9 per 100,000 from 2.5 a fortnight ago.


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  • #6652
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,857 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Arghus wrote: »
    This thread used to be the sensible one.

    Can you back up the governments decision with figures?


  • #6653
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,568 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    This feels more like a talking to than a press briefing


  • #6654
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    masks to be mandatory but mentioned as expected no date set, legislation required

    Genuine question.
    Were would banks and credit unions stand with mandatory face coverings.
    They could definitely require legislation


  • #6655
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    TBH I don't really understand fact that pubs aren't allowed to open.
    In fairness it was a hospital pass to Michael Martin. They sped up the opening now he has to deal with slowing it.

    I get a funny feeling we'll see a spike in numbers. That way we can all go. Wow they were right.


  • #6656
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,153 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The former Minister for the smoking ban, and is heading the same way re pubs. I hope his local the Silver Key down Ballinlough way is mightily impressed.

    We call him the Altar Boy. LOL.

    The only issue I have is the dictat to us here about not going abroad, wearing masks and so on, but dithering and not giving a reciprocal message to tourists allowed in. Terrified of offending anyone I suspect.


  • #6657
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,440 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    ZX7R wrote: »
    They could definitely require legislation

    Why, I don't think there's anything illegal about wearing one into such a place. I had a call with a manager and mentioned that it must be odd looking at people come in wearing masks and he said he gets a few but not many. Many cash desks are closed anyway apart from a few in some of the larger branches.


  • #6658
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,657 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Arghus wrote: »
    This thread used to be the sensible one.

    Tbf it was clear since the start that a certain very vocal selection of people have a major alcohol dependency. This is traumatic for them.


  • #6659
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Martin suggesting that phase 4 will go ahead on 10th August. He seems fairly confident of it.

    So if case numbers are still the same in 3 weeks time what on earth will be different then from now.


  • #6660
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Myself and the elite will travel to Brussels


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  • #6661
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I have to say that mask requirement message was a complete muddle. Look forward to regulations making actual sense of it.


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