Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

mloc123 · 15-07-2020 05:11PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

RTE : The cabinet are discussing house parties.

How the fcuk do they think they can do anything there

Get one of the bishops to tell young people not to have house parties....

I am not even joking, this happened a month or so ago. Because the church is who they will listen to..

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1241758454529826817

Vicxas · 15-07-2020 05:12PM

Cases are still low and they're trying to pull a fast one.

Fianna Fail at it again.

Eod100 · 15-07-2020 05:12PM

shinzon wrote: »

there has to be more to this, it cant just be because of a small increase in numbers. I wonder is it to give them more breathing room to formulate proper guidelines for the pubs to reopen and the green list to be drawn up and more time to look at the airports maybe

Cant purely be down to the numbers.

Shin

This says "The current guidance advising against non-essential overseas travel is due to be extended" so looks like green list will be delayed. Otherwise could hardly have green list and still advice to avoid non essential travel. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-pubs-to-stay-closed-until-august-10th-amid-new-push-on-face-masks-1.4305203?mode=amp

polesheep · 15-07-2020 05:13PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

RTE : The cabinet are discussing house parties.

How the fcuk do they think they can do anything there

Maybe adopt the old East German approach; rat on your neighbours when they have a house party. I'll repeat it again, they are rapidly losing the people.

Sofa King Great · 15-07-2020 05:13PM

There were 14 cases attributed to the kerry house party and there were 20 healthcare workers in the past few days. If you strip those out, there is pretty much no increase in cases.

I would feel very aggrieved seeing flights still coming in if I was a publican

is_that_so · 15-07-2020 05:13PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Of course temporary can mean a number of months. It's any limited period of time i.e. Not permanent.

There needs to be a strategy to what they are up to. There is none apart from shout masks on and threaten to fine people. Now I know there are posters who want to mask up till the day they die but most of us would rather not. There need to be indicative timelines of the temporary nature of this and targets. At what level of cases do we forego masks?

Eod100 · 15-07-2020 05:14PM

Zonda999 wrote: »

Any thing of an update regarding this mythical green list next Monday?

This says "The current guidance advising against non-essential overseas travel is due to be extended" so looks like green list will be delayed. Otherwise could hardly have green list and still advice to avoid non essential travel. https://www.irishtimes...s-1.4305203?mode=amp

fritzelly · 15-07-2020 05:15PM

Eod100 wrote: »

This says "The current guidance advising against non-essential overseas travel is due to be extended" so looks like green list will be delayed. Otherwise could hardly have green list and still advice to avoid non essential travel. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-pubs-to-stay-closed-until-august-10th-amid-new-push-on-face-masks-1.4305203?mode=amp

Seriously? What has this government done since they came in to power except delay everything, even the masks on transport was in place with FG and it still took FF ages to sign off on it

ACitizenErased · 15-07-2020 05:15PM

I'm raging to be honest, haven't been this annoyed in a long time. And not even because I'm a drinker (I'm not a big drinker in the slightest) but because regular people's livelihoods are being destroyed while tourists can waltz around with f*ck all care in the world.

is_that_so · 15-07-2020 05:16PM

Sanjuro wrote: »

So is it just pubs and clubs that have to remain closed? What about cinemas or theatres?

Nothing has been decided yet. Indoor is about the only thing they've said. That could be anything.

Christy42 · 15-07-2020 05:16PM

Vicxas wrote: »

Cases are still low and they're trying to pull a fast one.

Fianna Fail at it again.

I am not really sure ehat you think Fianna Fáil have tó gaín from tricking us away from the pubs for another few weeks?

polesheep · 15-07-2020 05:16PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Seriously? What has this government done since they came in to power except delay everything, even the masks on transport was in place with FG and it still took FF ages to sign off on it

Any chance the EU will come in and take over the governance of our country? Pretty please.

Boggles · 15-07-2020 05:16PM

Sofa King Great wrote: »

There were 14 cases attributed to the kerry house party and there were 20 healthcare workers in the past few days. If you strip those out, there is pretty much no increase in cases.

So if you ignore the increase in cases we have no increase in cases?

Assetbacked · 15-07-2020 05:17PM

Vicxas wrote: »

Cases are still low and they're trying to pull a fast one.

Fianna Fail at it again.

Boomer panic, typical of the whole response to this pandemic.

sp00k · 15-07-2020 05:17PM

Sanjuro wrote: »

So is it just pubs and clubs that have to remain closed? What about cinemas or theatres?

Cinemas have been open since 29th June, have they not? Not that there is anything to go see anyway...

MOR316 · 15-07-2020 05:17PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Nothing has been decided yet. Indoor is about the only thing they've said. That could be anything.

So what, Cinemas will have to close down again? :pac:

What a shambollix of a Government...And it's not even a month old

polesheep · 15-07-2020 05:17PM

Christy42 wrote: »

I am not really sure ehat you think Fianna Fáil have tó gaín from tricking us away from the pubs for another few weeks?

But they have a whole lot to lose. Already they have made Varadkar look like the greatest leader we ever had.

Sofa King Great · 15-07-2020 05:18PM

Boggles wrote: »

So if you ignore the increase in cases we have no increase in cases?

If you ignore the numbers attributed to these it shows there is no material increase in occurrences of Covid in the community

ACitizenErased · 15-07-2020 05:18PM

Boggles wrote: »

So if you ignore the increase in cases we have no increase in cases?

There has been no change in positivity rate despite testing increased by 3 fold. I don't know what other evidence is needed to suggest there hasn't been an increase in cases.

is_that_so · 15-07-2020 05:18PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Say it's being extra cautious. They really need schools to open and non covid treatments resuming. If pubs opened and schools and treatments delayed there would be massive outcry. I can't see why pubs wouldn't open then unless things get much worse.

At this stage you'd wonder will schools even open before October?

Santy2015 · 15-07-2020 05:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm raging to be honest, haven't been this annoyed in a long time. And not even because I'm a drinker (I'm not a big drinker in the slightest) but because regular people's livelihoods are being destroyed while tourists can waltz around with f*ck all care in the world.

I like going to the pub. But you’re 100% correct. It’s soul destroying seeing this happen to small businesses across the country.

schmoo2k · 15-07-2020 05:18PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

What difference does a bowl of chicken wings costing 9 quid make to people talking and having the pint Olympics in 105 minutes.

Not seen social distancing gone in anywhere I've been in thats opened at part of phase 3.

So tell me what changes between now and 3 weeks time on August 10th with regards to anything you've mentioned ??

For one thing we will see where the numbers go over the next 3 weeks. (FWIW I would allow beer gardens to reopen now). But I do know for a fact that folks who have a few drinks in a pub / house situation will revert to hugs and no social distancing (and shouting loud to get over the music). 9 euro wings in a "restaurant" does seem to prevent that?

MOR316 · 15-07-2020 05:19PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Boomer panic, typical of the whole response to this pandemic.

Pretty silly reply.

I've seen it in pubs since phase 3 came in. There is no social distancing and people are getting just as drunk as before. No 9 quid's worth of food is stopping it.

Boggles · 15-07-2020 05:19PM

Sofa King Great wrote: »

If you ignore the numbers attributed to these it shows there is no material increase in occurrences of Covid in the community

Isn't there around 30 new clusters in private homes the past few days?

Pandemic 101, don't ignore anything.

greensausage · 15-07-2020 05:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Probably see alcohol.sales being restricted per person in off licence aswell as curtailing off licence opening hours id say

14 cases out of 1 house party in kilarney,this cant continue

Easy enough to just go to multiple off licences/supermarkets, if they are that concerned about house parties then maybe they shouldn't be doing everything in their power to make sure they'll take place.

stephenjmcd · 15-07-2020 05:19PM

Then why on earth are we pushing a phase back 3 weeks

https://twitter.com/MaryERegan/status/1283449299343376389?s=19

The White Wolf · 15-07-2020 05:20PM

Speak Now wrote: »

Pubs look goosed, cant see how they can open them in 3 weeks. Numbers now are as good as it gets.

Agreed, we're likely going to see a rise in numbers over the next 2-3 weeks anyway.

It really does feel like an empty gesture from FF to the concerned Karens around Ireland. Hopefully it backfires.

Sammy2012 · 15-07-2020 05:20PM

Yes its crap that pubs wont be opening but it would fit them better to put more energy into reopening schools at the end of August!

schmoo2k · 15-07-2020 05:20PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Contact tracing at a house party is easier, are you being serious ??

You know in pubs/ restaurants they ask you for your details and keep it for those reasons.

Someone on the door of the house party getting everyone's details?

I was at a restaurant for the first time and no one took my details (and pubs aren't open yet).

House parties the hosts know everyone?

Boggles · 15-07-2020 05:20PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There has been no change in positivity rate despite testing increased by 3 fold. I don't know what other evidence is needed to suggest there hasn't been an increase in cases.

Where has testing increased?

Has it increased 3 fold in the community?

Or has testing being ramped up in hospitals, care homes, etc?

Context is key.

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