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George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

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  • #2252
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Who is defending that? Honestly?

    Blueplanet for a start.


  • #2253
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    We missed the provocation part, where he threatens the mob with a sword.
    But yeah, i condemn it.
    And that warranted being almost kicked to death by a bunch of cowards? Wow.


  • #2254
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    Your response was far too predictable.

    Because, if you think about it for a minute, remove all your emotional energy. Without prejudice, it will not be the best look for any Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy and the all the murals being painted.

    Why does it matter? Does his life matter less because he potentially did porn? Does it make it more acceptable that a police officer murdered him? Does it make it less protest worthy?


  • #2255
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    So we must not disrespect black mobs by trying to defend ourselves.

    The video shows whites in that ruckus too, interesting that you've only cited "black mobs".


  • #2256
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Blueplanet for a start.

    By saying they condem it?


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  • #2257
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Blueplanet for a start.
    Really, where?


  • #2258
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What the **** does that even mean, what the **** has the police killing someone have to do with mobs destroying innocent peoples lives. What have these people got to do with the police or george floyd

    Oh yeah.
    Two totally random unconnected events.😬


  • #2259
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,638 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Proof that Leftists are constantly looking for things to be outraged about.

    He is sending armed forces against his own citizens. What's not to be outraged about?


  • #2260
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    By saying they condem it?
    BluePlanet wrote: »
    We missed the provocation part, where he threatens the mob with a sword.
    But yeah, i condemn it.


    Seems pretty half hearted to me.


  • #2261
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why does it matter? Does his life matter less because he potentially did porn? Does it make it more acceptable that a police officer murdered him? Does it make it less protest worthy?

    Yes anything he did in his life that can be brought up means he is less deserving of his rights or treatment above that of an animal


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  • #2262
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    The video is quite clear, no amount of shooting the messenger will change that. But of course we all know Attacking the source of information is the tried and tested tactic of progressives.

    Ill support attacking the messenger long before ill support attacking the guy on the ground that died with 4 cops on or around him.

    My point wasnt about a specific video (though if a video of 3 news crew getting arrested can be disputed in meaning and blame ill certainly ask questions of a video that starts right before the bit that the author needs it to) but Andy Ngo in general.

    Id trust a random person putting the video on twitter before I'd take what he says at face value. Its very convenient it starts right there where it does.

    If CNN did that , you'd be hammering them.


  • #2263
    Higgins5473
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why does it matter? Does his life matter less because he potentially did porn? Does it make it more acceptable that a police officer murdered him? Does it make it less protest worthy?

    That read like your keyboard just got an awful beating.

    Again, remove all your emotional energy and read my reply. It will not help the Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy. Porn is an abusive industry which is very damaging to women, he was a part of it. That’s just the way it is, no matter how much you would prefer to deflect and say it doesn’t matter, it does, it is not good for his role in the campaign of Black Lives Matter which has seen a massive resurgence in the last week.


  • #2264
    AllForIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    This is the kind of garbage Ireland has to put up with forever more now because of our 'commitment to multiculturalism', as our president was quoted as saying recently.


    https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1266663294196121600


  • #2265
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    That read like your keyboard just got an awful beating.

    Again, remove all your emotional energy and read my reply. It will not help the Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy. Porn is an abusive industry which is very damaging to women, he was a part of it. That’s just the way it is, no matter how much you would prefer to deflect and say it doesn’t matter, it does, it is not good for his role in the campaign of Black Lives Matter which has seen a massive resurgence in the last week.

    It doesnt matter a thing what he did in the past or right up until he ended up on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back. Its totally irrelevant.


  • #2266
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    AllForIt wrote: »
    This is the kind of garbage Ireland has to put up with forever more now because of our 'commitment to multiculturalism', as our president was quoted as saying recently.


    https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1266663294196121600

    They're trying their hardest to import American racial politics and discourse and apply it to Ireland.


  • #2267
    double jobbing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭double jobbing


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Any protest in Ireland?

    Time to take to the streets in solidarity!

    The unemployable weirdos of the Connolly Youth Movement were making the usual tit of themselves at Hapenny Bridge I do believe.

    They're a handsome bunch of high achieving go getters if you care to check their Facebook page.


  • #2268
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    It doesnt matter a thing what he did in the past or right up until he ended up on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back. Its totally irrelevant.
    Wrong.

    You obviously know nothing of the US court system.


  • #2269
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    AllForIt wrote: »
    This is the kind of garbage Ireland has to put up with forever more now because of our 'commitment to multiculturalism', as our president was quoted as saying recently.


    https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1266663294196121600

    People are getting killed in America by police and in riots, and this is what's annoying you? A twitterer complaining about journalism in Ireland?


  • #2270
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Gardai are racist now. As is direct provision

    https://twitter.com/marycryin/status/1267052844286382088?s=19


  • #2271
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,125 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    How can people defend this?

    Just absolutely vile. Saddened I witnessed this...

    Dirty filthy animals..

    This is what rioting and anarchy is..

    But hey, to many, it’s just theft....can’t get worse than that, can it? Man was in their way.....collateral damage.....


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  • #2272
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Wrong.

    You obviously know nothing of the US court system.

    How is it wrong? Go ahead and explain. What was he going to do to them from that position to warrant a knee on the neck for 10 minutes and what has the courts system to do with that?

    What has his past got to do with them killing him (ill say them, because 2 others were on him t, at least for a time, holding the rest of his body)


  • #2273
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    It doesnt matter a thing what he did in the past or right up until he ended up on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back. Its totally irrelevant.

    Everything will be brought up that him or his family have ever done will be used to show he is less deserving of human rights. If his cousin smoked a joint you will hear about it.

    That's the thing about human rights and fair treatment it applies to everyone.a lot of people don't like that fact. Should only apply to upstanding citizens.


  • #2274
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Wrong.

    You obviously know nothing of the US court system.

    He didn't get to the court system. That's the issue.


  • #2275
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    walshb wrote: »
    The defense will say that he was resisting arrest, and that he died, not from the knee-asphyxiation, but his underlying health conditions...

    Nobody can know for sure, but it's likely that Chauvin does not get convicted of murder in the 3rd here...
    True, but if they don't put him away for murder then all hell is going to break lose.


  • #2276
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's a black guy on Al Jazeera now saying trump has been a great champion of black communities..


  • #2277
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    That read like your keyboard just got an awful beating.

    Again, remove all your emotional energy and read my reply. It will not help the Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy. Porn is an abusive industry which is very damaging to women, he was a part of it. That’s just the way it is, no matter how much you would prefer to deflect and say it doesn’t matter, it does, it is not good for his role in the campaign of Black Lives Matter which has seen a massive resurgence in the last week.

    It can be pretty awful for men as an industry as well and this is well documented. So no your point isn't valid. The fact he did porn will not matter.

    Even if it turned out that he was a terrible human being, it doesn't matter given what happened. He is an example of completely undue force being used by the police resulting in his death. Do you think his death was completely unjustifiable?


  • #2278
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    AllForIt wrote: »
    This is the kind of garbage Ireland has to put up with forever more now because of our 'commitment to multiculturalism', as our president was quoted as saying recently.


    https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1266663294196121600

    What difference does it make to you?


  • #2279
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Gardai are racist now. As is direct provision
    They are just using the current bandwagon.

    If you scroll down through their flow the agenda becomes pretty clear.


  • #2280
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    alchemist33 wrote: »
    People are getting killed in America by police and in riots, and this is what's annoying you? A twitterer complaining about journalism in Ireland?

    All deflection tactics, its been evidenced across this thread and the Ahmoud Arbery one (and loads of others im sure) . Broaden the discussion as much as possible and bury the stuff you dont like. In this case the treatment of minorities in America by getting as much as possible on to the thread about black peoples crime in general , trying to focus conversations on anything the individual that was killed might have done in the past etc.


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  • #2281
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    How is it wrong? Go ahead and explain.

    What has his past got to do with them killing him (ill say them, because 2 others were on him t, at least for a time, holding the rest of his body)
    Character testimony and previous run-ins with the law are a huge part of court cases in the US. Have a look at some videos of OJ's case.

    He was a wanted felon therefore they could argue brute force was warranted to restrain him.

    I'm not defending the cop's actions but this guy was no saint.


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