Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

elperello · 14-05-2020 08:58PM

My point was that Ireland Inc. needs to decide do we want the orchestras or not.

There is no need for their fate to be tied to RTE's fortunes.

If we want them we have to pay for them.

PCeeeee · 14-05-2020 09:00PM

Why two Orchestras?

NIMAN · 14-05-2020 09:08PM

PCeeeee wrote: »

Why two Orchestras?

Ones a 'symphony', the others a 'concert'.

I'm not that musical but I'd guess there are differences. .

elperello · 14-05-2020 09:08PM

PCeeeee wrote: »

Why two Orchestras?

They cover different genres of music.
The Symphony is classical.
The Concert is more varied doing jazz, popular music etc.

Elmo · 14-05-2020 09:37PM

yrreg0850 wrote: »

Why should the taxpayer pay for a so called RTE " National " orchestra when they rarely play outside the national concert hall

RTE added the "National" tag in order to get state funding for what is in effect the RTE orchestra.

They dropped National from the CO, NSO is National as it’s home is mainly in the NCH one of the reasons to merge the NSO & NCH.

I think the argument about either Orchestra has little to do with RTÉ looking for more money as they are both statutory, up to legislators to move them out of RTÉ and if we should continue to have them. Meanwhile they remain part of RTÉ. We can’t blame RTÉ for their existence.

15-05-2020 08:41AM

What's wrong with an Orchestra anyway ? we don't have enough!

I'd rather an Orchestra playing proper music than listen to over paid DJ's.

Mr. Karate · 15-05-2020 01:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What's wrong with an Orchestra anyway ? we don't have enough!

I'd rather an Orchestra playing proper music than listen to over paid DJ's.

Nobody would have a problem with them if they actually played outside of Dublin. And then trying to get tickets is impossible.

They only want to play in Dublin so let the Dubliners pay for them.

RabbleRouser2k · 15-05-2020 01:09PM

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Nobody would have a problem with them if they actually played outside of Dublin. And then trying to get tickets is impossible.

They only want to play in Dublin so let the Dubliners pay for them.

Get the Dublin people to pay for something?

Good God-you'd have more luck finding a leprechaun's crock of Gold.

PCeeeee · 15-05-2020 02:07PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's wrong with an Orchestra anyway ? we don't have enough!

I'd rather an Orchestra playing proper music than listen to over paid DJ's.

There's two for you now. ðŸ˜‰

James Brown · 15-05-2020 02:09PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Get the Dublin people to pay for something?

Good God-you'd have more luck finding a leprechaun's crock of Gold.

Thanks for the Luas by the way

Elmo · 15-05-2020 02:14PM

Bowie wrote: »

Thanks for the Luas by the way

Northsiders thank you for half a luas and a bridge to the southside!

Shefwedfan · 15-05-2020 04:39PM

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Nobody would have a problem with them if they actually played outside of Dublin. And then trying to get tickets is impossible.

They only want to play in Dublin so let the Dubliners pay for them.

How are getting tickets impossible?

Mr. Karate · 15-05-2020 07:33PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

How are getting tickets impossible?

Seems like they're always sold out.

15-05-2020 07:57PM

I enjoyed watching the Zoo on RTE 1.

15-05-2020 10:54PM

Watching the Dana documentary now, it's pretty good. :-)

TheRiverman · 15-05-2020 10:59PM

Dana documentary is excellent.I was never a fan of her and her singing,but she was really blackguarded in the 2011 Presidential Election campaign.

15-05-2020 11:31PM

TheRiverman wrote: »

Dana documentary is excellent.I was never a fan of her and her singing,but she was really blackguarded in the 2011 Presidential Election campaign.

Vincent Brown was such a pr1ck.

Good Documentary alright glad I watched it now.

Shame in a way she got involved in politic.

Great voice, shame the Eurovision has got so bad, how did it happen ?

RabbleRouser2k · 16-05-2020 08:20AM

Bowie wrote: »

Thanks for the Luas by the way

Thanks for taking on Corona so the rest of us didn't.

TheRiverman · 16-05-2020 09:36AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Vincent Brown was such a pr1ck.

Good Documentary alright glad I watched it now.

Shame in a way she got involved in politic.

Great voice, shame the Eurovision has got so bad, how did it happen ?

I was surprised she went into interview with Vincent Brown apparently not knowing anything about his hatchet job style.

Pop music in general today is dire and Eurovision became part of that.It also became a platform for agendas and the outrageous and was allowed to do so.

Brendan Bendar · 16-05-2020 10:01AM

TheRiverman wrote: »

I was surprised she went into interview with Vincent Brown apparently not knowing anything about his hatchet job style.

Pop music in general today is dire and Eurovision became part of that.It also became a platform for agendas and the outrageous and was allowed to do so.

Based on what elderly relatives tell me auld Vinny used to have a show at 2200 RTÉ 1 radio, himself and a dude called Sean Ardagh used to ‘josh’ with each other and a few lefties.

All gentle ribbing usually, it’s said, then some poor coin of a (usually)FG councillor would be engaged and set upon by ‘pack’ and torn to bits while the host sat back and sniggered.

That’s what I was told anyway, may not be true, but the Dana interview seems kind of similar.

Must try to dig it up.

Elmo · 16-05-2020 02:58PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

...Vinny used to have a show at 2200 RTÉ 1 radio...

That’s what I was told anyway, may not be true, but the Dana interview seems kind of similar.

I assume that interview was from that show, late debate replaced the show and then he moved to TV3... he had had a show on 98FM prior to his RTÉ

He was one of RTÉ top earns back in 2003 AFAIK 200,000 euros

RabbleRouser2k · 17-05-2020 09:58AM

Elmo wrote: »

I assume that interview was from that show, late debate replaced the show and then he moved to TV3... he had had a show on 98FM prior to his RTÉ

He was one of RTÉ top earns back in 2003 AFAIK 200,000 euros

There's a 3 minute clip of that interview on youtube. The quality isn't great tho, I think someone recorded it onto a cassette player or something.

bigroad · 17-05-2020 12:48PM

Absolutely discussing that Rte are looking for another cash injection from the government along with the CIE companies and DAA.
I can sort of understand CIE and DAA but RTE a big no.

Brendan Bendar · 17-05-2020 05:36PM

bigroad wrote: »

Absolutely discussing that Rte are looking for another cash injection from the government along with the CIE companies and DAA.
I can sort of understand CIE and DAA but RTE a big no.

Why can’t u understand the DAA.

Place has been booming for the last 4 years.Packed to the rafters!

I can’t understand it.......enlighten me bro?

bigroad · 17-05-2020 05:43PM

Actually made a grave mistake earlier ,none of them should get a penny.

Nevin Parsnipp · 17-05-2020 07:35PM

bigroad wrote: »

Actually made a grave mistake earlier ,none of them should get a penny.

Fair play for coming clean poster ...this bothers me greatly too.

The point the lad Bendar made about the DAA is a valid one....last four or five years of continual expansion vastly increased passenger numbers and increased aircraft movements.

Surely companies like DAA which in fairness has a reputation of being well run build in some reserves in case of sudden downturns.

The travel industry can be hit very quickly by items such as the pandemic,weather related conditions, and civil and industrial unrest...some of which they may have no control over.

For such companies surely they should have in place contingencies to cover such items instead of crying for a bailout at the first opportunity.

In the case of RTE not a penny should they get extra until they submit to a root and branch review of all salaries and conditions particularly at senior levels and especially that of their so called stars. !

elperello · 17-05-2020 08:16PM

In the case of all three organisations they are 100% State owned and they have remits as essential services.
It is up to them to make a case to Government for funding providing all necessary accounts and information required.

At the end of the day there is only one shareholder ie. the citizens of Ireland and it is up to the Government to decide how much if any subvention should be given to them.

PieOhMy · 17-05-2020 09:24PM

Not defending it but I can see the managements line of thought. If they are turning profits it's all well and good being responsible and saving it away for a rainy day but you need to be seen to be constantly spending and saving and doing well and padding out your cv with big visable projects, and if you dont spend your allowance annually you wont be getting as much next year. Also there could be elements of when people take over roles and find the cupboards are bare they arent going to be likely to make unpopular cost cutting measures and resist the urge to spend just so the guy that comes along next can raid the warchest and take all the glory

17-05-2020 09:29PM

For some reason I was glued to the Riordans documentary, something I never knew but often heard the older folk talk about, it ended before I was born.

Nevin Parsnipp · 17-05-2020 09:34PM

elperello wrote: »

In the case of all three organisations they are 100% State owned and they have remits as essential services.
It is up to them to make a case to Government for funding providing all necessary accounts and information required.

At the end of the day there is only one shareholder ie. the citizens of Ireland and it is up to the Government to decide how much if any subvention should be given to them.

Don't quite "get" that post my friend ...I'm sure the fault is mine.

Nobody is disputing that the companies are state owned

Neither are they saying that they are not essential services .

Everybody agrees that it is up to the Government to decide on what subvention if any to award these companies ?

So I guess I am missing whatever point you were putting forward ?

The thrust of the recent posts was that these companies need to manage their finances to take into account "bumps in the road" and have contingency in place and not be bleating for tax payer bail out at the first opportunity.

In the case of RTE the level of salaries paid to their so called "Stars" is nothing short of scandalous and I am at loss to understand how this has been allowed to continue for so long.

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