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Portumna GC -Suspended by GUI

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  • #2
    Golfhead65
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Golfhead65


    What's that about ?? Is it about members Handicapping ??


  • #3
    dan_ep82
    Registered Users Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Suspended and reinstated.

    Doesn't say what for though which you would think would be the important part.


  • #4
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    What is their record like in inter country competitions?


  • #5
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Must have been naughty.


  • #6
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Beaulieu wrote: »
    See here -great course though & one I love playing.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/golf/portumna-golf-club-vow-to-rebuild-reputation-after-suspension-998729.html

    Absolute gem of a course for the price.


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  • #7
    Carazy
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    Central Council Meeting of the GUI was hardly held in Carton House on April 27th?

    Would travel to Carton House on April 27th for this meeting be essential travel for GUI.


  • #8
    CowboyTed
    Registered Users Posts: 744 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    What is their record like in inter country competitions?

    Very Good for a relatively small course...

    Cracking course and complete steal for the price. 17th is absolute cracker, one of the best holes in Connacht...


  • #9
    dan_ep82
    Registered Users Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Carazy wrote: »
    Central Council Meeting of the GUI was hardly held in Carton House on April 27th?

    Would travel to Carton House on April 27th for this meeting be essential travel for GUI.

    For the love of god stop derailing threads.


  • #10
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    CowboyTed wrote: »
    Very Good for a relatively small course...

    Cracking course and complete steal for the price. 17th is absolute cracker, one of the best holes in Connacht...

    Clearly more than one cowboy there Ted.


  • #11
    bobob
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭bobob


    Suspension for 10 days in the middle of a global pandemic??? Finalists in at least 4 interclub comps last year??
    Interesting


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  • #12
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Two committee members resigned as well. Only mention for why is "concerns raised about its management of the CONGU Unified Handicapping System."

    I think best to leave it at that.


  • #13
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Two committee members resigned as well. Only mention for why is "concerns raised about its management of the CONGU Unified Handicapping System."

    I think best to leave it at that.

    Jesus. What hope have the honest clubs got.


  • #14
    Dtoffee
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Dtoffee


    bobob wrote: »
    Suspension for 10 days in the middle of a global pandemic??? Finalists in at least 4 interclub comps last year??
    Interesting


    Interesting choice of punishment and timing given their success the previous year, so can they start again with the same teams and same handicaps ?


  • #15
    Glebee
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Glebee


    What exactly is supposed to have happened? Handicap rearrangements? It does not really spell it out.


  • #16
    Golfhead65
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Golfhead65


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Two committee members resigned as well. Only mention for why is "concerns raised about its management of the CONGU Unified Handicapping System."

    I think best to leave it at that.

    Not a strong enough sanction if irregularities were proven, a bit of a cop out really, I remember in a previous club I was a member the Committee cut a few individuals on (don't know the GUI term) what I'd call "Holding your handicap" but winning all around, Pre max 1 shot a year back days..and even after a few threats of litigation as one individual questioned if he was called a cheat, Fair play they stood their ground and insisted on the cuts..They left to join other clubs who were only too willing to embrace them into the club teams


  • #17
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Glebee wrote: »
    What exactly is supposed to have happened? Handicap rearrangements? It does not really spell it out.
    I don't think you ever will. Unless you know somebody from the club or connected to the issue. These things should be more open and transparent, but it's highly unlikely that will ever happen either.


  • #18
    Rikand
    Registered Users Posts: 20,339 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    One of the strongest teams in interclub year on year. They are the ones to avoid in every format of interclub competition. Very nice people though. I've always had very enjoyable matches against them :)


  • #19
    gypsy79
    Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    Rikand wrote: »
    One of the strongest teams in interclub year on year. They are the ones to avoid in every format of interclub competition. Very nice people though. I've always had very enjoyable matches against them :)

    Surely it is very easy for them to be nice to you when they are cheating their asses off!!

    Very often the way!


  • #20
    chuky_r_law
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭chuky_r_law


    funnily enough i just heard a rumour the last day that portumna was done for having the course open during the pandemic...id say they're spreading this story down there to hide the fact they're a bunch of cowboys :D:D


  • #21
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    chuky_r_law wrote: »
    funnily enough i just heard a rumour the last day that portumna was done for having the course open during the pandemic...id say they're spreading this story down there to hide the fact they're a bunch of cowboys :D:D

    It had absolutely nothing to do with the course being open or otherwise and everything to do with handicaps.


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  • #22
    Rikand
    Registered Users Posts: 20,339 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    gypsy79 wrote: »
    Surely it is very easy for them to be nice to you when they are cheating their asses off!!

    Very often the way!

    I've had more wins than losses against them in junior cup down through the years

    2-1 and the guy I lost to plays off +3 now.





    I've had a lot more losses in jimmy bruen though


  • #23
    JCDUB
    Registered Users Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭JCDUB


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Two committee members resigned as well. Only mention for why is "concerns raised about its management of the CONGU Unified Handicapping System."

    I think best to leave it at that.

    Why do you think it best to leave it at that?

    Not having a go at you personally, but that's exactly the attitude that encourages clubs to engage in cheating.

    I think there should be a detailed report posted by the GUI detailing exactly what their findings were and why the club was sanctioned, naming names if necessary and instigating lifetime membership bans.

    However the GUI have no balls when it comes to cheating in our game and are
    extremely fearful of litigation, so clubs who cheat are rewarded.

    Sad state of affairs really, highly indicative of our litigious culture.


  • #24
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,008 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    JCDUB wrote: »
    Why do you think it best to leave it at that?

    Not having a go at you personally, but that's exactly the attitude that encourages clubs to engage in cheating.

    I think there should be a detailed report posted by the GUI detailing exactly what their findings were and why the club was sanctioned, naming names if necessary and instigating lifetime membership bans.

    However the GUI have no balls when it comes to cheating in our game and are
    extremely fearful of litigation, so clubs who cheat are rewarded.

    Sad state of affairs really, highly indicative of our litigious culture.
    I would have thought that speculating beyond what is in the press would be a risky endeavour.

    However, yes, publishing disciplinary reports should be a no-brainer. It's done in other sports.


  • #25
    Keano
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Thread closed as way too much speculation and hearsay being thrown about.


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