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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    What is it with parents bringing their kids to supermarkets like its a day out.

    Can one of them not stay at home with the kids??


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    GM228 wrote: »
    The PPE situation in New York for some, most likely not just the situation in NY:-

    https://twitter.com/jackiefox_/status/1243135922088169472?s=19

    That's insane.
    How could we all have left stocks go so low.

    I guess these PPE gear have an expiry date?
    Some medical items do, you would be surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Surprised how quickly basic protective equipment ran out in hospitals, its only a few weeks into the epidemic in many countries, USA is not supposed to reach it's peak for 6 weeks, what will the situation be like then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Lavinia wrote: »
    I just saw the Spain news, it does not seem to slow down, how is possible so many new cases with all stages they already went through..


    very sad..

    Tourism.

    Spain was probably the biggest petri dish for Corona in all of Europe.
    They locked down, and got rid of all the tourists, but because of the incubation period, the "tsunami" is only hitting them now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Lavinia wrote: »
    I just saw the Spain news, it does not seem to slow down, how is possible so many new cases with all stages they already went through..


    very sad..

    Lockdowns aren't working, virus must be in the air or something...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭scamalert


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Gets out notebook. Licks pencil tip....adds to list of...
    Panic porn
    Posting with lad in hand
    Having a **** over the misery
    The bedwetters

    And now..
    People getting aroused to see more cases.

    (I think there is an epidemiological pattern emerging here, doctor.)

    Personally I don't understand why more mention has not been made of panic sex.
    pull your head ouf of the a$$, every second comment refers to how we dont have enough positive tests etc, hse doing their job right seems many still unhappy, as we dont have the numbers :cool: seems good few just waiting for it to go worse when reality its not getting as bad as it would be elswhere which is good, more testing does little at this stage, since as said if those are fine after 2-3 weeks wait theres no need to stress system, as seems critical ones are taken care off so that's about right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Lockdowns aren't working, virus must be in the air or something...
    Or that some people treated it like a holiday at first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,823 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Tourism.

    Spain was probably the biggest petri dish for Corona in all of Europe.
    They locked down, and got rid of all the tourists, but because of the incubation period, the "tsunami" is only hitting them now.
    And we imported cases from Spain. Bringing holidaymakers home.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    In the comments some readers have been asking about the fact that the government released the UK coronavirus death figures yesterday much later than usual, and that the increase on the previous day (41) was much lower than the previous day’s increase (87).

    According to Newsnight’s Nicholas Watt, that is because the (UK) government is changing the way it is compiling the figures.

    source:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/26/uk-coronavirus-live-news-updates-self-employed-rishi-sunakhospital-car-parking-charges-waived-for-nhs-staff-in-england?page=with:block-5e7c8b738f0878a2a48aa88a#block-5e7c8b738f0878a2a48aa88a


    well, that's the proven Korean strategy of extreme transparency out the window so in the UK.. dear God...

    That's why I posted the link.
    Metrics are changing, and it may be for good reason, but it's a caveat when it comes to interpreting numbers.

    I thought that only case numbers would need this consideration, but no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    And they are saying here it won't peak till the end of April, so thats a rise every day between now and a month - will end up to be the worst country on the planet.

    Makes me wonder about the lockdown, it;s half assed at best.

    According to the European Centre for Disease control the Irish intensive care system could be overwhelmed with critical covid patients.

    This is very very serious if it unfolds like this.
    Reported on RTE news this morning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


    murpho999 wrote: »
    No they're not. Below is offical advice from Dutch Health body.



    I have family in Holand, and i'be neen in touch and they tell me that many people are not taking it fully serious at all and they really believe that children can't carry it.

    360 dead there now, way ahead of our rate.




    Yes.
    And:
    Google Translated from source: https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/5068691/kabinet-maatregelen-detail-coronavirus
    "Weddings and funerals can continue, but with a maximum of 30 people. Religious gatherings, for example in a church or mosque, may also continue with that amount of people."


    The Netherlands really are the weakest link in Europe and a major risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234




    Source:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/26/uk-coronavirus-live-news-updates-self-employed-rishi-sunakhospital-car-parking-charges-waived-for-nhs-staff-in-england?page=with:block-5e7c6fb48f081e5eda23705c#block-5e7c6fb48f081e5eda23705c

    London hospitals are facing a “continuous tsunami” of seriously-ill patients because of coronavirus, a health service leader said this morning. Chris Hopson, chief executive of NHS Providers, which represents NHS trusts, used the phrase in an interview on the Today programme. Commenting on the situation in London, he said:

    They are struggling with two things. The first is the explosion of demand they are seeing in seriously ill patients. They talk about wave after wave after wave - the word that’s often used to me is a continuous tsunami.

    We are now seeing 30%, 40% and indeed in some places 50% sickness rates as staff catch the virus or are in vulnerable groups or have to self-isolate. That’s an unprecedented absence rate.

    So what we have got is a really wicked combination - trusts trying to deal with a lot more demand than they have ever had before with a lot fewer staff than they have had before.

    Hopson said that, while extra capacity was being brought in - including 4,000 beds at the ExCeL centre in London’s Docklands - hospital chief executives are concerned that it will be used up “very, very quickly”.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Lockdowns aren't working, virus must be in the air or something...

    They do work, as much as they are acted on in reality. It takes time. There will always be some spread anyway, especially in hospitals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,823 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    citysights wrote: »
    According to the European Centre for Disease control the Irish intensive care system could be overwhelmed with critical covid patients.

    This is very very serious if it unfolds like this.
    Reported on RTE news this morning.

    The Irish system couldnt even manage the testing system. How on earth are we meant to manage actual cases?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    pjohnson wrote: »
    And we imported cases from Spain.

    Yep. But we weren't testing people returning from Spain.

    Or Germany, France, USA etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Lavinia wrote: »
    The UK government has ordered more than 3 million finger prick antibody tests that could be ready in a matter of days. The tests could reveal whether someone had covid-19, but they are being checked first to show that they work properly. It is also still not known whether it’s possible to develop long-lasting immunity to the coronavirus.

    I have my doubts that this will be ready within days but if and when antibody testing is available it really does have the capacity to be a game changer. If we knew people had immunity we could really utilise those people to help both the health services and the wider economy. People with immunity who can't work could provide all sorts of supports from food delivery, care work for elderly people, childminding and educational supports to children of key workers, hospital cleaning and basic support work, etc. Lots of people would love to help out in numerous ways but don't want to endanger themselves, their families and people they come in contact with. Just imagine how different it would be if we had thousands of people who knew they could give that help without those worries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Most people would wash their hands after handling a bin, regardless of Covid 19 or not

    Are you sure? I bet some wouldn’t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    People have been complaining that as people we do not listen like the south Korean's or the Chinese ( forced to)
    but there is a huge difference with us and the Latin countries ,They are way more laid back than us and even less likely to follow rules and instructions and the numbers are showing it,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Cases in Ghana have doubled overnight to over 130


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    pjohnson wrote: »
    And we imported cases from Spain. Bringing holidaymakers home.

    And in the UK, an estimated 20,000 came home from holidays in Spain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Or that some people treated it like a holiday at first.

    People round here only really started taking this serious like majority anyway in the last few days town was jammed last thurs threw to sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,823 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Yep. But we weren't testing people returning from Spain.

    Or Germany, France, USA etc etc

    Ideally they shouldnt have been brought back. We already had enough cases here to be dealing with but sure we are STILL tryna bring more back into the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    Lockdowns aren't working, virus must be in the air or something...

    A day or two ago, I am sure I saw a stat that showed transmission within the home was a factor ie so people you live with. I will try to post stat if I can find it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Lockdowns aren't working, virus must be in the air or something...

    Just as here, construction sites continue in Spain. And in Italy. At least we are learning now quite clearly who are the lobby groups with most political clout, and for whom money trumps worker's lives, health and safety in spite of all the moronic courses they constantly run and require to "ensure" workers well being. Get up the road, ye fork-tongued bread-heads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,483 ✭✭✭Be right back


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I dunno why the gardai are getting "spit hoods" for wãnks like that. A good plastic bag over the head be just as good. Plus can be recycled between tossers.

    If all else fails, tazers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭paul71


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Ideally they shouldnt have been brought back. We already had enough cases here to be dealing with but sure we are STILL tryna bring more back into the country.

    So the solution is to allow the already overwhelmed Spainish health service make triage decisions on Irish holiday makers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,416 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    citysights wrote: »
    Are you sure? I bet some wouldn’t.

    Revise advice to must.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,818 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Source:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/26/uk-coronavirus-live-news-updates-self-employed-rishi-sunakhospital-car-parking-charges-waived-for-nhs-staff-in-england?page=with:block-5e7c6fb48f081e5eda23705c#block-5e7c6fb48f081e5eda23705c

    London hospitals are facing a “continuous tsunami” of seriously-ill patients because of coronavirus, a health service leader said this morning. Chris Hopson, chief executive of NHS Providers, which represents NHS trusts, used the phrase in an interview on the Today programme. Commenting on the situation in London, he said:

    They are struggling with two things. The first is the explosion of demand they are seeing in seriously ill patients. They talk about wave after wave after wave - the word that’s often used to me is a continuous tsunami.

    We are now seeing 30%, 40% and indeed in some places 50% sickness rates as staff catch the virus or are in vulnerable groups or have to self-isolate. That’s an unprecedented absence rate.

    So what we have got is a really wicked combination - trusts trying to deal with a lot more demand than they have ever had before with a lot fewer staff than they have had before.

    Hopson said that, while extra capacity was being brought in - including 4,000 beds at the ExCeL centre in London’s Docklands - hospital chief executives are concerned that it will be used up “very, very quickly”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Ideally they shouldnt have been brought back. We already had enough cases here to be dealing with but sure we are STILL tryna bring more back into the country.

    Unfortunately, you can't just leave a load of people abroad in the middle of a global lockdown. Many could end up without accommodation, food or money.

    That would end up being a disaster in its own right


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    citysights wrote: »
    According to the European Centre for Disease control the Irish intensive care system could be overwhelmed with critical covid patients.

    This is very very serious if it unfolds like this.
    Reported on RTE news this morning.

    Every Nation could be overwhelmed ,
    no doubt the government are doing something to combat this as we speak ,

    People losing there **** over change of strategy on testing need to relax ,we are doing ok on the testing front , There was always going to be back logs with the amount of people turning up for tests ,
    Again its more of a problem caused by the People not the government ,

    Can't blame the government for everything

    Its the us people who will either save us or cause devastation with this,


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