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Workplaces and employer attitudes Megathread

  • 18-03-2020 9:21pm
    #1
    mea_k
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭


    Our coworker returned to work today - after beeing in UK nightclubs and for past 3 days.
    None of us are happy. Manager now put big sign on office door saying that UK is deemed safe to travel to and back and also if person doesn't feel unwell they are fine to work.
    My problem is yesterday was announced that now anyone travelling to UK or back has to quaranteene themselves. Also covid19 symptoms won't show untill few days. And she will have whole place infected by then sureley.
    Respectedly she returned to work today. After that took place.

    Do we have right to request her leave and quaranteene herself?

    It's getting quite heated in work, we do deal with public also.


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  • #2
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 16,349 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    mea_k wrote: »
    Our coworker returned to work today - after beeing in UK nightclubs and for past 3 days.
    None of us are happy. Manager now put big sign on office door saying that UK is deemed safe to travel to and back and also if person doesn't feel unwell they are fine to work.
    My problem is yesterday was announced that now anyone travelling to UK or back has to quaranteene themselves. Also covid19 symptoms won't show untill few days. And she will have whole place infected by then sureley.
    Respectedly she returned to work today. After that took place.

    Do we have right to request her leave and quaranteene herself?

    It's getting quite heated in work, we do deal with public also.

    If she spent three days in nightclubs she may have picked up more than coronavirus.

    Glazers Out!



  • #3
    Jonybgud
    Registered Users Posts: 463 ✭✭Jonybgud


    mea_k wrote: »
    Our coworker returned to work today - after beeing in UK nightclubs and for past 3 days.
    None of us are happy. Manager now put big sign on office door saying that UK is deemed safe to travel to and back and also if person doesn't feel unwell they are fine to work.
    My problem is yesterday was announced that now anyone travelling to UK or back has to quaranteene themselves. Also covid19 symptoms won't show untill few days. And she will have whole place infected by then sureley.
    Respectedly she returned to work today. After that took place.

    Do we have right to request her leave and quaranteene herself?

    It's getting quite heated in work, we do deal with public also.

    No, your boss said so.


  • #4
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Speak to HR, they're usually better at these things than After Hours..


  • #5
    fonecrusher1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    She sounds like an idiot already to be honest. After the multiple broadcast warnings about social distancing / self isolation.

    These are the morons who are going to create a surge in infections.


  • #6
    mea_k
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭mea_k


    biko wrote: »
    Speak to HR, they're usually better at these things than After Hours..

    I'm sure HR will be hearing from 30+ people.
    My mum, who looks after my son while I work has lung problem.
    Now I don't know what to do, I had to pick my son up today at her gate. I was so scared going in.
    I just thought ill ask what everyone else thinks before I blow my lid tomarrow


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  • #7
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,024 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Leo's speech just last night

    "the latter stages of coronavirus is like coming down after three days on the yokes"

    Nothing wrong with your co worker OP


  • #8
    Shaunoc
    Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Shaunoc


    Quit your job, only answer


  • #9
    krissovo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    Can you not work from home if its an office?


  • #10
    Iodine1
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭Iodine1


    You are absolutely right to be concerned. Well over 100 dead in uk so far and 32 died last night alone, all tested positive for virus. In just one night! It is rampant over there and Boris and Co are brushing it under the carpet, as they try to convince the public Britain is Great again.


  • #11
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 8,912 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    There is as much chance you have it, as your coworker.


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  • #12
    Rufeo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Rufeo


    After hours, the solution to all Life's problems


  • #13
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,800 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    mea_k wrote: »
    I'm sure HR will be hearing from 30+ people.
    My mum, who looks after my son while I work has lung problem.
    Now I don't know what to do, I had to pick my son up today at her gate. I was so scared going in.
    I just thought ill ask what everyone else thinks before I blow my lid tomarrow

    HR very rarely if ever go against a managers wishes and back a member of the line staff, the only scenario where they ‘might ‘ is when it’s likely their actions to do so could end them in court and the company suffers loss of reputation and therefore revenue.

    If I was HR for a company when this problem began manifesting itself one of my priorities is to request that each manager provide me with their staff holiday calendar for the next 6 months.... I’d begin finding out which if any employee had foreign trips booked and to where or any group plans say a volleyball tournament , golf trip to Portugal etc... encourage cancelling, rebooking, even as a tool of goodwill a one off contribution covering some or all of change fees...


  • #14
    Mrcaramelchoc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    A lynching is what you need.but stone her first. actually stone her while you are lynching her.


  • #15
    golfball37
    Registered Users Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭golfball37


    It’s a completely unacceptable situation imo. Boss should be sanctioned for that attitude. We’ve heard the guidelines she should be at home for 14 days, no exceptions


  • #16
    Rufeo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Rufeo


    Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »
    A lynching is what you need.but stone her first. actually stone her while you are lynching her.

    Absolutely, and streaming live on social media.... with further giving out on boards after wards. I mean anything other than actually going and dealing with the situation


  • #17
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Luckily you've come to exactly the right place for advice.


  • #18
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,013 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mea_k wrote: »
    Do we have right to request her leave and quaranteene herself?
    No. the manager has told this person to be in work. That is what they are doing.
    golfball37 wrote: »
    It’s a completely unacceptable situation imo. Boss should be sanctioned for that attitude. We’ve heard the guidelines she should be at home for 14 days, no exceptions

    People showing symptoms show be at home. People expsoed. The co-worker is neither.

    The rate of infection is higher in Ireland than the UK. So OP is more likely to catch it by being in work than co-worker was in UK.


  • #19
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Uk is a big place.

    The main area of infections is London.

    But even at that it's a small number of people in the scheme of things (at the moment)

    So odds are quite low that she has it.

    Simple distancing in the office should alleviate the issue and should be done anyway


  • #20
    Tropheus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    Your employer has a duty of care towards you. If this employee has admitted not adhering to social distancing guidelines and is a higthened infection risk then HR may have to do something.


  • #21
    s4uv3
    Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    Darc19 wrote: »

    But even at that it's a small number of people in the scheme of things (at the moment)

    So odds are quite low that she has it.

    That's only because they're doing damn all testing. If you look at the no of active cases v deaths, the numbers aren't adding up at all. My money says the UK is riddled, they're just keeping the case no's low (for now) by not testing.


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  • #22
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    this is what happens folks...paranoia

    i suppose if people so much as sneeze in the workplace they'd be looked upon with suspicion, people need to get a grip


  • #23
    pinkyeye
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    The numbers in the UK per capita are actually better than ours so what is the problem?


  • #24
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 31,825 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    The numbers in the UK per capita are actually better than ours so what is the problem?
    But with how many tests?


  • #25
    twowheelsonly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Mellor wrote: »
    No. the manager has told this person to be in work. That is what they are doing.



    People showing symptoms show be at home. People expsoed. The co-worker is neither.

    The rate of infection is higher in Ireland than the UK. So OP is more likely to catch it by being in work than co-worker was in UK.
    pinkyeye wrote: »
    The numbers in the UK per capita are actually better than ours so what is the problem?

    The UK are tesing only when people turn up at the hospital. There is NO public testing going on as there is here. GPs or others are not testing there so are advising those with mild symptoms to self-isolate and only referring more serious cases to hospital.
    That alone should set alarm bells ringing. Their numbers are completely arseways.


  • #26
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    There is as much chance you have it, as your coworker.

    There is now anyway.

    It’s mad reading all the flippant replies here though. Shows how much of a stinking attitude we’re all up against that and that we’ll never control this no matter what the government puts in place.


  • #27
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    Do you know if there's anything that can be done about a company who are putting employees and their families at risk during this crisis? They have the ability to get all their employees to work from home. They have decided only experienced staff will work from home while everyone else will have to work from the office. This is not a temporary measure but it's their stated position for the duration of the crisis.
    The company is in Dublin and the majority of staff have to get public transport into work. There are less people going on public transport but still the risk is bigger than staying at home. An employee lives in the same house as a relative who returned from working in Italy. The relative must self isolate but the employee of this company was told to attend work.
    Many of the staff live at home with their parents, the chances of passing this virus onto them has been increased hugely because of the stance this company has taken. There's no law against what they're doing but is there any way to persuade this company to do the right thing?


  • #28
    blindside88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    Not all companies have the backend infrastructure in place to allow everyone work from home. A lot of big companies have invested very little in IT since the last crash. Best thing to do is practice social distancing on the way to and from work and also while in the office. Wash hands frequently and avoid touching your face. A large number of businesses are still running and will have to continue to do so


  • #29
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    blindside88 wrote: »
    Not all companies have the backend infrastructure in place to allow everyone work from home. A lot of big companies have invested very little in IT since the last crash. Best thing to do is practice social distancing on the way to and from work and also while in the office. Wash hands frequently and avoid touching your face. A large number of businesses are still running and will have to continue to do so

    But they have the infrastructure! Every employee is set up to work from home, they just won't allow everyone to do it. If someone in the office gets the virus, then they will all be sent home to work from there but only for 24 hours until the office is cleaned and opened again.


  • #30
    jrosen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    Have they the ability to have all staff work from home at once? There are companies that can accommodate work from home but its not always possible to have 100% of the work force at home at the same time.

    Are they keeping social distance? Not using common spaces? If this is the case then the company are following current guidelines and recommendations.


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  • #31
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    jrosen wrote: »
    Have they the ability to have all staff work from home at once? There are companies that can accommodate work from home but its not always possible to have 100% of the work force at home at the same time.

    Are they keeping social distance? Not using common spaces? If this is the case then the company are following current guidelines and recommendations.

    Well if the company is closed for the day then they'll all work from home! How many companies are still calling employees into the office when they can work from home?


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