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Champions Cup 2019/20 Round 6 - All to play for

  • 12-01-2020 6:55pm
    #1
    Burkie1203
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    Saturday

    Lyon v Saints
    Benetton v Leinster

    Quins v Clermont
    Ulster v Bath

    Exeter v La Rochelle
    Sale v Glasgow



    Sunday
    Munster v Ospreys
    Sarries v R92

    Monty v Connacht
    Toulouse v Glaws


    Any sort of win for Leinster means top seed

    Exeter, Toulouse and Racing in 3 way fight for 2nd seed.

    The runners up spots are up for grabs. Ulster should be 6th seed.

    If Saints beat Lyon they are likely to be 8th seed. A lot depends on how Lyon approach the game.

    Leinster could be facing Saints/Glasgow/Munster

    Sarries will beat R92 IMO and finish 7th


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  • #2
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    The IT says Munster
    need Racing 92 to beat Saracens at the weekend in order to finish as runners-up. A bonus-point win over the Ospreys at Thomond Park would move them up to 16 points overall – enough for them to qualify providing Glasgow, Northampton and Gloucester all fail to win.

    I think that may be inaccurate

    They need sarries to lose alright but if Sarries do lose and Munster get a BP win then they would have 16pts

    I think they can afford for one of Glasgow, Northampton and Gloucester to win and then Munster would qualify along with whichever of those 3 won

    Is this correct?


  • #3
    Burkie1203
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    Riskymove wrote: »
    The IT says Munster



    I think that may be inaccurate

    They need sarries to lose alright but if Sarries do lose and Munster get a BP win then they would have 16pts

    I think they can afford for one of Glasgow, Northampton and Gloucester to win and then Munster would qualify along with whichever of those 3 won

    Is this correct?

    If it's high scoring and Sarries get 4 tries BP plus a LBP they are on 16. Head to head then says Sarries. Very possible on plastic pitch.

    A draw also gets Sarries 2 points.

    Is it head to head record if teams are level in the same group? I think Munster have to get more points then Sarries to advance

    Sarries getting the BP at TP is huge


  • #4
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 12,999 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    Is Munster getting through contingent on Sarries losing at home now?


  • #5
    Riskymove
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    Sarries must lose or else Munster are third in pool and are out regardless of points

    My point is that IT says all 3 other teams must also lose for Munster to progress but in fact it is 2 of 3

    Possibly only 1 of 3 if Glasgow don't get a BP win

    Not as hopeless as I first thought but still unlikely as I think Sarries will win


  • #6
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Riskymove wrote: »
    Sarries must lose or else Munster are third in pool and are out regardless of points

    My point is that IT says all 3 other teams must also lose for Munster to progress but in fact it is 2 of 3

    Possibly only 1 of 3 if Glasgow don't get a BP win

    Not as hopeless as I first thought but still unlikely as I think Sarries will win

    Sarries must lose and collect no more then 1 point. R92 can score for fun and also concede for fun too. So Sarries getting 2 BPs is possible


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  • #7
    Eod100
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    As it stands:

    Leinster finish 1st so home qf and likely home semi.

    Win for Ulster guarantees them 6th.

    Munster need Glasgow to not get a tbp (and have better PD) or draw or lose to have chance going into tomorrow's matches.

    1) Leinster 28 (123) Q1st
    2) Racing 22 (71) Q
    3) Exeter 22 (62) Q
    4) Toulouse 22 (56) Q
    5) Clermont 20 (86) q
    6) Northampton 19 (-17)
    7) Ulster 17 (15)
    8) Saracens 14 (30)

    9) Gloucester 14 (21)
    10) Glasgow 12 (-12)
    11) Munster 11 (0)


  • #8
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,342 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Eod100 wrote: »
    As it stands:

    Leinster finish 1st so home qf and likely home semi.

    Win for Ulster guarantees them 6th.

    Munster need Glasgow to not get a tbp (and have better PD) or draw or lose to have chance going into tomorrow's matches.

    1) Leinster 28 (123) Q1st
    2) Racing 22 (71) Q
    3) Exeter 22 (62) Q
    4) Toulouse 22 (56) Q
    5) Clermont 20 (86) q
    6) Northampton 19 (-17)
    7) Ulster 17 (15)
    8) Saracens 14 (30)

    9) Gloucester 14 (21)
    10) Glasgow 12 (-12)
    11) Munster 11 (0)

    At least 6th. Could finish higher depending on Clermont result.


  • #9
    BOHSBOHS
    Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭BOHSBOHS


    Harlequins vs clermont is live on channel4 if anyone interested :-p


  • #10
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,632 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    awec wrote: »
    At least 6th. Could finish higher depending on Clermont result.

    Yeah was just assuming Clermont and Ulster will both win but you're right


  • #11
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,632 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    As it stands:

    Leinster and Ulster can't be dislodged in 1st and 6th.

    All to play for with other rankings


    1) Leinster 28 (123) Q1st
    2) Clermont 24 (93) Q
    3) Racing 22 (71) Q
    4) Exeter 22 (62) Q
    5) Toulouse 22 (56) Q
    6) Ulster 21 (22) q
    7) Northampton 19 (-17) q
    8) Saracens 14 (30)

    9) Gloucester 14 (21)
    10) Glasgow 12 (-12)
    11) Munster 11 (0)


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  • #12
    sydthebeat
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    Saints aren't there yet


  • #13
    ScrubsfanChris
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    Sale putting out a weakened team, not great for Munster :/


  • #14
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Nakarawa is back
    & has scored a try already!


  • #15
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,632 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Saints aren't there yet

    Yup, only Leinster and Ulster certain of their places now. Both in bold above. Bar a Gloucester tbp win they look to be fairly nailed on for 7th or 8th though. Glasgow can only get to 17 max.


  • #16
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Nakawara looks in the mood!
    Bad news for Munster

    Great to have in back in the top14


  • #17
    sydthebeat
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    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Nakawara looks in the mood!
    Bad news for Munster

    Great to have in back in the top14

    You on the beer?


  • #18
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,329 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    What's the point of Heineken Cup weekends if not to be on the beer?


  • #19
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    You on the beer?

    Pro 14!
    & I would give my right hand to be out on the beer!!


  • #20
    sydthebeat
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    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Pro 14!
    & I would give my right hand to be out on the beer!!

    Another hour or so and I'm cutting loose :D


  • #21
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Great fun in the Exeter game

    Hogg yellowed for deliberate knock on, and penalty try given.

    Frank murphy not warming himself with the Exeter fans


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  • #22
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,632 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »
    What's the point of Heineken Cup weekends if not to be on the beer?

    Fixed your post :P That said Dry January is no craic!


  • #23
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    I'm really liking the look of La Rochelle. They're really playing with some skill and intent. For a French team away in a game that isn't going to mean anything, they are putting in a performance.


  • #24
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,329 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Great fun in the Exeter game

    Hogg yellowed for deliberate knock on, and penalty try given.

    Frank murphy not warming himself with the Exeter fans

    Right decision, in fairness.


  • #25
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,632 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Glasgow with 3rd try, 21-0, bar a miracle from Sale that's surely the door closed for Munster


  • #26
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Sale have been brutal so far, haven't threatened Glasgow at all.


  • #27
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Not sure if the ref mic is slightly off but looks to me like Exeter scrum is driving slightly before the set call


  • #28
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Sale are absolutely dense. Win a penalty in your own half from a scrum, then get it reversed by getting into handbags


  • #29
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,632 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Might as well be cardboard cutouts on the pitch instead of some of those players. They really look like they don't care. Thats it for Munster


  • #30
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭ongarite


    BP for Glasgow


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  • #31
    Interested Observer
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    If Saracens win tomorrow is it Leinster v Saracens then?

    Some reward.


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