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39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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  • #842
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,155 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Woah woah, we got a link to that story of the 11/12 african lads? I mean wtf how much of this is really going on?

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/east-african-children-in-care-of-social-services-after-being-found-in-belfasts-harbour-area-38628468.html


  • #843
    AloneInTheDark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 ✭AloneInTheDark


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Obviously not enough evidence to sustain a murder charge. It was not deliberate.
    Or he did a deal and gave up the names of the others


  • #844
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Woah woah, we got a link to that story of the 11/12 african lads? I mean wtf how much of this is really going on?

    My first thought in this case was that the people who died may have been across the channel more than once. There's still slavery and the like in the world. Even before the crisis in the Med Italy was full of it from reading a few sources, both Chinese and African. The cockle pickers in Morecambe bay, the lads who died a few years ago in Dundalk Bay.
    The lucky ones get here and overstay. Why seemingly not destitute people would use this method rather than just overstay is beyond me but I guess I'm missing something.


  • #845
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,757 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    AloneInTheDark wrote: »
    Or he did a deal and gave up the names of the others

    He probably melted and told all but murder was never the intention imo.


  • #846
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,010 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    If found guilty what is sentence for 39 manslaughter charges


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  • #847
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,010 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Even 10 years for each offence means he would not get out until he's 415 years old.


  • #848
    glen123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭glen123


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Source?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gps-data-reveals-trajectory-of-refrigerated-trailer-in-which-migrants-died-1.4063110


  • #849
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    1641 wrote: »
    Reported in the media today that the lease for the container was signed by a Ronan Hughes. Any word of anybody having got an interview with him or the the company, Hughes Transport ?
    The report said the GPS indicated that the trailer made two return trips between Britain and the continent in the days leading up to the discovery of the bodies.

    I first heard this being suggested to me as for back as Wednesday afternoon, but for obvious reasons wouldn't repeat it online.


  • #850
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,398 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I suppose it will all come out in time the level of involvement if any that the young fella had in this.


  • #851
    Still waters
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Still waters


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Nothing in the story suggests the 39 were destined for this island.

    Britain is also an island


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  • #852
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    I suppose it will all come out in time the level of involvement if any that the young fella had in this.


    Fancy truck for a guy who doesn't even work it. Comes outs once a month to move a trailer.


  • #853
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,566 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Still waters wrote: »
    Britain is also an island



    If they were referring to island other than the one this forum is based on, they might have said that.


  • #854
    Odelay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭Odelay


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Fancy truck for a guy who doesn't even work it. Comes outs once a month to move a trailer.

    Where did you get that information from?


  • #855
    Still waters
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Still waters


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    If they were referring to island other than the one this forum is based on, they might have said that.

    Why would they, the thread is about something that happened on another island, there was nothing in the post you quoted to indicate otherwise


  • #856
    Odelay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Still waters wrote: »
    Why would they, the thread is about something that happened on another island, there was nothing in the post you quoted to indicate otherwise

    And both islands are geographically known as the British Isles.


  • #857
    SPDUB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    Odelay wrote: »
    And both islands are geographically known as the British Isles.

    Not by the British or Irish Governments


  • #858
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,566 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Still waters wrote: »
    Why would they, the thread is about something that happened on another island, there was nothing in the post you quoted to indicate otherwise
    Odelay wrote: »
    And both islands are geographically known as the British Isles.

    :rolleyes: The poster was responding to a comment made about Belfast.


  • #859
    NufcNavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭NufcNavan


    What seems strange for me is how did/do these immigrants stump up the likes of the money figures quoted?

    The likes of me or anyone reading this couldn't come up with that sort of cash. How on earth do dirt poor Vietnamese do it.


  • #860
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    NufcNavan wrote: »
    What seems strange for me is how did/do these immigrants stump up the likes of the money figures quoted?

    The likes of me or anyone reading this couldn't come up with that sort of cash. How on earth do dirt poor Vietnamese do it.

    I think they have to have so much money upfront and they work for the rest once they get here. Not so different to a form of modern serfdom.


  • #861
    Still waters
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    :rolleyes: The poster was responding to a comment made about Belfast.

    Which you quoted totally out of context, do try to keep up Francis


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  • #862
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,147 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I know its the daily Fail, but its saying now that the truck was in a convoy of 3 trucks

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7616611/Families-claim-100-migrants-smuggled-UK-two-completed-journey.html


  • #863
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,566 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Still waters wrote: »
    Which you quoted totally out of context, do try to keep up Francis

    What? :confused:

    There is no evidence at all that those unfortunate people were destined for this island like 'the people in Belfast'.

    That is all I said.


  • #864
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,398 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    NufcNavan wrote: »
    What seems strange for me is how did/do these immigrants stump up the likes of the money figures quoted?

    The likes of me or anyone reading this couldn't come up with that sort of cash. How on earth do dirt poor Vietnamese do it.

    It was said on Sky News that the way they do it is family members come up with the money and when the person makes it to whatever country they are going to and start working the plan is to sent back money to their relatives at home, not ssure how exactly that would work though.


  • #865
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    NufcNavan wrote: »
    What seems strange for me is how did/do these immigrants stump up the likes of the money figures quoted?

    The likes of me or anyone reading this couldn't come up with that sort of cash. How on earth do dirt poor Vietnamese do it.

    Their parents life savings, based on an interview with father of a young man presumed to be a victim.


  • #866
    Mahony0509
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Mahony0509


    A lot of people seem to be denying the blatantly obvious Ireland connection here. 4 Irish people, Irish container, Irish-owned truck, the other driver was arrested in Dublin today ffs. It's clear as day it's some sort of Irish-related gang operating here.


  • #867
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,398 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Fancy truck for a guy who doesn't even work it. Comes outs once a month to move a trailer.

    I'd imagine he would have been working as much as he could to pay it off if he does own it.

    Trucks don't make any money sitting in the yard.


  • #868
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,566 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mahony0509 wrote: »
    A lot of people seem to be denying the blatantly obvious Ireland connection here. 4 Irish people, Irish container, Irish-owned truck, the other driver was arrested in Dublin today ffs. It's clear as day it's some sort of Irish-related gang operating here.

    Who is denying the Irish connection. It's kinda hard to do.


  • #869
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,398 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Mahony0509 wrote: »
    A lot of people seem to be denying the blatantly obvious Ireland connection here. 4 Irish people, Irish container, Irish-owned truck, the other driver was arrested in Dublin today ffs. It's clear as day it's some sort of Irish-related gang operating here.

    Is it?


  • #870
    partyguinness
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    pinkyeye wrote: »
    Ah so they're only middle class people, doesn't matter if they're dead so?


    Yes. That's exactly what I am saying....:rolleyes:


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  • #871
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Is it?


    Well, it's unlikely to be linked to a well established legit High Street travel company.


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