Slow play is killing golf

It would be great if Sky or someone else started a time per shot stat

Probably not in the interest of PGA to have all the evidence

There has been a commotion before and it just eventually went away

My respect for Brooks Koepka is growing

patob wrote: »

This needs to be taken seriously at all levels of the game. Most US pros afraid to say boo to De Chambeau for his latest carry on.
Time for the US PGA to act with shot penalties.
Slow play is one of the main reasons I gave up my membership a few years ago. Anyone bothered about this issue here?

My main problem with golf. Pros taking so long encourages everyone else to.

Do pros not have someone from the tour with them for the round. Give him a stop watch and let him time them. Its an easy fix.

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

From PGA tour twitter feed just now: We're exploring adjustments to our current pace-of-play policy.

LOL

Just came to post that. This could be fun now

Ward J. Littell wrote: »

Tiger is actually regarded as being one of the quicker players on tour.

More a figure of speak than anything.

They’d hammer a journeyman as no back lash but they do someone like woods they’d be afraid of it.

The twitter drama over slow play continues. Now it’s Phil saying green books don’t slow play down at all. Says they are needed to speed up play.

Luke Donald disagreed and we have another little spat on our hands. This time Eddie Pepperal tried to play peacekeeper

GreeBo wrote: »

They should let them all use range finders and immediately it would be faster.
I honestly dont see the difference between lasering it and pacing it out (other than lasering it being far quicker of course)

I agree, the distance they are from the hole is a matter of fact, how they find out the distance shouldn't matter.

Would speeding up the play mean more camera crews required though to see every shot?

I think slow play in local clubs isn't that much of an issue. some of the issue I think is that lads have gone around in 3 or 3.5 hours for a 3 ball and they expect to go around at this pace every week. I know someone who if you ask him how did he get on he will tell you how long it took him before he tells you the score. Obsessed with going around as fast as possible. My club has a lot of older members and they just cant do this pace.

I have been away from golf the last few years and only recently took it back up, I can see both sides of the argument but I thinks it has been blown completely out of proportion as far as us armatures are concerned, first off I don't see the problem with a 4 ball taking 3 and a half to 4 hours to complete a round, I always allow 4 or 4 and a half hours to play if I don't have that amount of time to spare I dont play, I'm not a slow player but it's reality that perhaps a group in frount is slow or maybe a member of our group, I'm guessing the Average club golfers are shooting 80 or 90 strokes a round and we're not as consistent off the tee etc etc, for me there is nothing worse than the feeling of being rushed the whole way around, but on the other hand alot of the pros are just really taking the piss there is no need for alot of the over analysis they carry on with

GreeBo wrote: »

They should let them all use range finders and immediately it would be faster.
I honestly dont see the difference between lasering it and pacing it out (other than lasering it being far quicker of course)

I'd agree with this, as long as its all done within the stipulated time. You'd still have guys lasering every hump and hollow they can see and/or walking to a spot where they can see everything.

I mean, I know yardages are important (obviously) and I'm not saying go back to playing by sight & feel, but when Bryson had to pace out a 70 yard shot the other day because that area of the course didn't have markings, there's something seriously wrong IMO. If one of the top players in the world can't hit a short shot like that based on what he sees, maybe he needs to look at himself rather than find reasons why he's not slow.

etxp wrote: »

I'm not saying people shouldn't be letting other groups through, im just saying people have an unrealistic time in what they should be going around in. If you are out on a Sunday at peak times you should be expecting to get around in 3/3.5 hours.

However I did notice recently that the captains prize was taking 4.5 hours for 3 balls and that is slow.

I don't think that 3 hours Is realistic for a three or four ball, that's and average of 10 mins per hole?

copperhead wrote: »

I don't think that 3 hours Is realistic for a three or four ball, that's and average of 10 mins per hole?

It's not far off though per hole, 12 mins is 3.40 pace with 14 mins over 4.10.

The pace of a course gets slower the later in the day it is as long as u are keeping up with the group in front u can't really do much else.
For me letting people thru usually delays things further I think there should be more pressure for people to catch up.

If as a 4ball u save 15 seconds each a hole u bring the time down by 18 mins.
Most courses 4 hours should be max for a 4ball, u have some courses that it's not possible with walks and length of the course.

copperhead wrote: »

I don't think that 3 hours Is realistic for a three or four ball, that's and average of 10 mins per hole?

sorry that was a typo, it was meant to say shouldn't

slave1 wrote: »

I played a 3ball in 2hrs 55mins on Sunday, we started 35minutes behind the 3ball in front and caught them on 14.
Previous week was a 2 ball in 2hrs 40mins
Both days were comp rounds

Would it be usual that it's not a full time sheet on a Sunday?

Even still that's an extremely quick round, the course must be short/setup to be quick ie, all the cabbage cut - no real hazards?

Simply wouldn't be possible of my track, best I've seen this year was 3hrs 40 minutes. We have water or out of bounds on most holes.

AdamD wrote: »

3 hrs 40 is not quick for a 3 ball.

It is in our club were the average 3 ball would be 4 hrs.