Random Fitness Questions

el Fenomeno wrote: »

How expensive are we talking?

Edit: looked into it myself actually, looks like that place in Panama uses umbilical chord stem cells. Procedure is circa 23k and travel/lodging brings it up closer to 30k. Yikes.

pricing seems similar to what my client paid yes

Transform wrote: »

Ive yet to work with a single person thats gotten PRP and its made ANY difference at all - most people i work with major joint issues have major mobility problems they just kicked down the road so long that it becomes unrecoverable.

Do you know anyone that tried adult stems?

€3000, not cheap. And by the looks of it more than 1 treatment needed.

Transform wrote: »

not yet no but going to guess its going to give same outcome as PRP

Ah, I dunno, I'll link it again, definitely promising, but not there yet.

Transform wrote: »

Honestly don’t think it will get there unless it’s fetal stem cells

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/knee-cartilage-repair_b_876946?guccounter=1

Just looking at knees, look at those studies, you never hear that they actually heal themselves...why? Shocked me.

Any surgical procedure puts one out of action for minimum 6 months and fast track to guaranteed osteoarthritis..why has their never been a some kind of protocol developed to self heal?

Like fix whatever cause the issue/assuming not trauma/strap it up/specific exercises/ massive weight loss/diet/ etc Im spit balling /and wait?

vargoo wrote: »

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/knee-cartilage-repair_b_876946?guccounter=1

Just looking at knees, look at those studies, you never hear that they actually heal themselves...why? Shocked me.

Any surgical procedure puts one out of action for minimum 6 months and fast track to guaranteed osteoarthritis..why has their never been a some kind of protocol developed to self heal?

Like fix whatever cause the issue/assuming not trauma/strap it up/specific exercises/ massive weight loss/diet/ etc Im spit balling /and wait?

Plenty of cartilage injuries are treated without surgery though. Very much depends on the damage

Brian? wrote: »

The first option is always to see if it'll self heal. But mostly it won't. I've spent 6 months doing rehab only to end up in surgery and have to do it all again.

What exactly was rehab?

Were you weight bearing?

Brian? wrote: »

Strength and mobility work. I was.

Not right though is it?

Treat the muscles after.

Im trying to decide whether to try crutches for 6 months... supplements/zero resistance exercises, fasting, compression, etc.... easier to do during winter.

Then MRI again....

Probably crazy but surgery is worse...

Brian? wrote: »

I don’t understand. I tried to rehab but the damage didn’t heal and I was still in pain. So I ended up having surgery. What wasn’t right? I was back on my feet the day after surgery. Back running within 4 weeks. Full mobility returned within 8 weeks.

Sounds like you should take whatever medical advice you were given.

What did you have done? Cleanout/debridement?
Is running again....you are just guaranteeing a knee replacement down the road? No?
Whats prognosis?

Brian? wrote: »

Lateral release and clean out some damaged cartilage.

No, running again isn’t guaranteeing a knee replacement. I don’t really run anymore though. My prognosis is great. Is in good shape.

What have you been reading that you’re so scared of the surgery. Keyhole knee surgery is a simple operation. The rehab afterwards needs to be done right though.

agreed - simple key hole is generally fine but the rehab after is essential

Ads by Google wrote: »

Importance of cardio if end goal is being stronger and probably kickboxing / bouldering?

Have little interest in cardio. Only reason I'd do it was before a big trek in the future.

At the moment, I'm happy enough in the gym doing a four-day routine. Is cardio something I should be doing anyway? I do 10 mins on the bike or rowing machine for the sake of getting my heart rate up but it's so boring.

It's of course hugely important but type of cardio is important.

For kickboxing I personally think you can't beat rounds of bag work(apart from actual sparring). Shadow boxing, skipping, running etc... all are good also.

Ush1 wrote: »

It's of course hugely important but type of cardio is important.

For kickboxing I personally think you can't beat rounds of bag work(apart from actual sparring). Shadow boxing, skipping, running etc... all are good also.

most people cant do sustained steady state cardio and control their heart rate, and aerobic base must be built before anerobic work is performed regularly - the work you describe is typically seen as higher intensity or anerobic work

Hi

Transform wrote: »

Aerobic doesnt scream out at me when you type - "For kickboxing I personally think you can't beat rounds of bag work(apart from actual sparring)" - most people will translate that to higher intensity work, correct me if im wrong

Bag work would be typically anaerobic. The point of the bag and heavier gloves is that you just more power and energy. Most people let loose on a bag would typically head off at a tempo they can hold for 2-3 mins. Not 20-40mins steady.

Shadow boxing on the other hand is more aerobic. Intensity and tempo is little and not fatiguing at all. Should be able to hold that for a long time. Although the purpose is typically technical rather than cardio.

Skipping can be any intensity. But depends on ability and the tempo you find comfortable.

Strength athletes (especially powerlifters) often viewed cardio as being a gainz destroyer and avoid any form of cardio outright, and it's a trap I fell into myself. Trends come and go, but current cardio trend for strength athletes is simply walking. 30-60 minutes a day at an average pace is light on the joints and just aerobic enough to help aid conditioning.

Anecdotally, I can vouch for trying to get out walking as complementing strength work. It might seem boring at first, but stick on some headphones while listening to a podcast every day has made lifting easier. And I do it at a different time of day to gym work. No more being out of breath after warmup sets @ <50%.

If 10 mins on a bike/rowing machine bores you, just find something similar that you think you will enjoy. Getting fresh air while doing so is a bonus.