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N24 - Cahir to Limerick Junction [design and planning underway]

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  • #62
    tails_naf
    Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tails_naf


    marno21 wrote: »
    Transport21 is no longer Government policy, the National Development Plan 2018-2027 is. The NDP (and the associated investment framework) specifies the N24 Cahir-Limerick Junction scheme, and the 2018-2022 funding provides for the scheme to be advanced through planning & design over that period.

    Does anyone know how this kind of timeframe compares with other countries? It seems quite a long time to me, potentially 3 years, before a sod is even turned, just for design/planning.


  • #63
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    tails_naf wrote: »
    Does anyone know how this kind of timeframe compares with other countries? It seems quite a long time to me, potentially 3 years, before a sod is even turned, just for design/planning.


    And after design/planning you have to wait at least another year for it to go to tender for construction. And that's if the money is actually available.....


  • #64
    steeler j
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭steeler j


    I heard phases 1 to 4 are out to tender and they hope to have it tendered Q4 this year


  • #65
    Limerick74
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Limerick74


    steeler j wrote: »
    I heard phases 1 to 4 are out to tender and they hope to have it tendered Q4 this year


    Not quite what was said on Tipp FM but close


    https://tippfm.com/news/road-safety/progress-n24-development-welcomed/


  • #66
    steeler j
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭steeler j


    Limerick74 wrote: »
    Not quite what was said on Tipp FM but close


    https://tippfm.com/news/road-safety/progress-n24-development-welcomed/

    I only heard it from a politician and they always make it sound better 😁😂


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  • #67
    davidk1394
    Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    steeler j wrote: »
    I only heard it from a politician and they always make it sound better ðŸ˜ðŸ˜‚

    What stretch of the road are they talking about?


  • #68
    Limerick74
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Limerick74


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    What stretch of the road are they talking about?
    N24 Cahir to Limerick Junction


  • #69
    steeler j
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭steeler j


    An inner relief road in Tipperary town is being talked about,any opinions on what will this do to the bigger project cahir to Limerick junction


  • #70
    road_high
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    steeler j wrote: »
    An inner relief road in Tipperary town is being talked about,any opinions on what will this do to the bigger project cahir to Limerick junction

    Probably give them an excuse to delay it even further...sigh. It’ll take hustvas long to progress a new relief road from scratch anyway


  • #71
    steeler j
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭steeler j


    road_high wrote: »
    Probably give them an excuse to delay it even further...sigh. It’ll take hustvas long to progress a new relief road from scratch anyway

    That's what locals are worried about a excuse to put off the real bypass,they tried years ago for a relief road but it was very badly thought out plan


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  • #72
    Paddico
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    http://tippfm.com/news/cahir-limerick-junction-road-completed-2027/?fbclid=IwAR3DgpZLkqZEZ79dQcaXiT9SAep5N9SZxbYVL1lIeSn6M6pRDl-XNo5s-Y0


  • #73
    Paddico
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    Timescales for this seem way off.

    Route selection hasn't even begun, never mind agreed


  • #74
    marno21
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    Current timescales for projects like this are 8-13 years, however nothing has been done on this project to date.

    Open to correction but Phases 1-4 haven't been tendered on this yet.

    It's one of three projects in the NDP which haven't been tendered yet for Phases 1-4 (everything has moved bar the two N24 schemes and the M50 South Port Access).


  • #75
    steeler j
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭steeler j


    Hopefully it will be tendered soon ,the timescale seems optimistic for it to be done by


  • #76
    Limerick74
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Limerick74


    Likely to be tendered using TII Framework so not visible on etenders.


  • #77
    Limerick74
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Limerick74


    Contract signed with Arup https://www.tipperarylive.ie/news/home/499909/5m-contract-signed-for-n24-cahir-to-limerick-junction-road-improvement-scheme.html


  • #78
    steeler j
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭steeler j


    Great news 😃


  • #79
    Jayuu
    Registered Users Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    steeler j wrote: »
    Great news 😃
    Yep I agree but this is only for the design. It'll be many years I suspect before we get to the build stage!


  • #80
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,385 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Jayuu wrote: »
    Yep I agree but this is only for the design. It'll be many years I suspect before we get to the build stage!

    Wasn’t it already designed pre downturn and then all thrown in the bin after?


  • #81
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Limerick74 wrote: »
    Contract signed with Arup https://www.tipperarylive.ie/news/home/499909/5m-contract-signed-for-n24-cahir-to-limerick-junction-road-improvement-scheme.html


    €5 Million seems very high.

    N4 Mullingar to Longford (Roosky) was awarded for €5 Million and that was a 50km scheme


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  • #82
    steeler j
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭steeler j


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    €5 Million seems very high.

    N4 Mullingar to Longford (Roosky) was awarded for €5 Million and that was a 50km scheme

    I was thinking that myself


  • #83
    Limerick74
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Limerick74


    Would be surprised if it finished at Limerick Junction. Why not take it to Ballysimon Junction in Limerick?


  • #84
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,385 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Limerick74 wrote: »
    Would be surprised if it finished at Limerick Junction. Why not take it to Ballysimon Junction in Limerick?

    Probably doing what they can realistically get funding for....


  • #85
    Paddico
    Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Paddico


    Limerick74 wrote: »
    Would be surprised if it finished at Limerick Junction. Why not take it to Ballysimon Junction in Limerick?

    Cost I imagine but why not Pallas or Oola even and avoid another village


  • #86
    steeler j
    Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭steeler j


    Limerick74 wrote: »
    Would be surprised if it finished at Limerick Junction. Why not take it to Ballysimon Junction in Limerick?

    It might finish Limerick side of monard,lots of obstacles around the Limerick junction


  • #87
    Christy Browne
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    Does this move anything forward on the Waterford to Cahir dual carriageway or are they considered to be completely separate?


  • #88
    road_high
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    Christy Browne wrote: »
    Does this move anything forward on the Waterford to Cahir dual carriageway or are they considered to be completely separate?

    Not really. I'd say that's way down the priority list and they are looking at doing the worst section first/if at all. That section has had various upgrades in places, but west of Cahir nothing was ever done.


  • #89
    marno21
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    Completely separate. To my knowledge tenders haven't been issued for Waterford-Cahir yet.


  • #90
    Christy Browne
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭Christy Browne


    marno21 wrote: »
    Completely separate. To my knowledge tenders haven't been issued for Waterford-Cahir yet.

    Surely it would make more sense to do a dual carriageway the whole way between the two cities of Limerick and Waterford than this piece-meal patch up job?


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  • #91
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,385 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Christy Browne wrote: »
    Surely it would make more sense to do a dual carriageway the whole way between the two cities of Limerick and Waterford than this piece-meal patch up job?

    It would be desirable but when funding is limited you’ve got to take what comes along. To get a new road built between Cahir and beyond Tipperary would be an enormous step forward from what’s currently there


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