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Fastidious wrote: »

You assume everyone is in a position to walk over that bridge with absolute 0 regard for those with mobility problems.

Reasonable assumption in my opinion as you never mentioned once about having mobility issues.
Even if you do, you still needed to validate your ticket based on what you have said in that you tried. You were aware of validator issues before hand but didn’t leave enough time to get to the station and validate the ticket on either side if needs be. When did you contact them on Twitter? Before or after getting fined?

As for "that bridge" I dont know the bridge. You are now assuming everyone on here knows the bridge in question and that only one side of the station has working validators.

Appeal if you feel wronged. But the inspector was only doing his job.

Xterminator wrote: »

this is quite clearly nothing to do with the kids travel free issue.

there were working validators on the platform, but you didn't use them - fine is valid.

specific bylaws for public transport ireland allow this. your really clutching at straws.

58 (a) Any person who is reasonably suspected by an authorised person of contravening or attempting to contravene these Bye-Laws shall upon being requested so to do give his name and address to an authorized person who is an inspector, driver or conductor in uniform or who produces evidence of identity.

they are not clutching at straws as they are making a query.

Legally, the question is did you have the opportunity to validate the ticket: you did.



Why you did not was a matter of convenience not inability, this is the thing.


For many many MANY years going back to primary school I've heard so many convos with inspectors on the train and people would say "oh i was running for the train I would have missed it!". ...right but the way they look at it is your schedule is not IE's responsibility it's yours. It's our job to get to the station in plenty of time in case this kinda stuff happens. It may be the most used excuse in the entire cannon in fact, I've seen it on all the fine threads set up here too.


I would also advise that winning a battle with them is HARD. I was in the right 1000% with a luas fine and it took me weeks of battling letter after letter and forcing them to check cctv footage to let the thing go, I had to convince them I'd go to court because there was no intent to defraud them of fare in my situation.


I guess that's why you feel wronged, because you had no intent to defraud either, but you also did break the rules, you had a chance to validate and you didn't.



The mobility/disability thing does not work with them either btw. I've a free travel card (not for much longer though) due to two life threatening conditions and I was told I HAVE to validate the card each time I go through so when the inspector puts his machine on the card he can see it's current and live (the expiry on the front is the CARD expiry not the travel entitlements expiry). I was also told if I'm going outside the SHZ I have to go to the office and get an actual physical ticket, and though most would let it go, some would / could issue a fine.
The guys in the Connolly desk know my face well now, and so one day I didn't put the card up on the desk one day when ordering a ticket, I got a blank stare and a "got your card?" and that's when they know me. Thems the rules.







I know it feels like a stupid technicality but you have to understand the danger is always setting a precedent someone can use to dodge the fare. Imagine if they allowed the "I was late for work and running for the train" excuse, how many more people would dodge their fare and use that if RPU came upon them?


Chock it up to a lesson in life we've all had to learn: you gotta follow the rules, even the ones you don't like or agree with.
Another key lesson I'll pass on mate: never rely on CIE, always get there 5 minutes earlier as spillover time just in case.

The NTA should require validators on the train or an obligation to keep those on the platform working