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Interdepartmental HEO Competition 2019

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  • #2
    kildareash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭kildareash


    Yup, just going for the experience as doubt I'd get anywhere.


  • #3
    LordBasil
    Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭LordBasil


    I'll have a go at this. Probably won't get it as I don't have much management experience and I'm not sure what they mean in the Policy section.

    It will be good experience for the future, especially if I get to do the Interview & Presentation Stage.


  • #4
    ilovethistles
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭ilovethistles


    Hi, does anyone know if time in the public service counts towards your two year service requirement? Tia


  • #5
    Crunchymomma
    Registered Users Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Crunchymomma


    I'm in but pretty sure I won't make it past shortlisting..... Worth a shot though I suppose


  • #6
    JamPack
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭JamPack


    ilovethistles wrote: »
    Hi, does anyone know if time in the public service counts towards your two year service requirement? Tia

    Unfortunately from what i've been told, Public Service doesn't count.

    LordBasil wrote: »
    I'll have a go at this. Probably won't get it as I don't have much management experience and I'm not sure what they mean in the Policy section.

    Just had a look and it seems that the "Policy" section is optional. On the application form it says "your experience of Policy Development or Implementation (if any)"


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  • #7
    ilovethistles
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭ilovethistles


    JamPack wrote: »
    Unfortunately from what i've been told, Public Service doesn't count.


    Thanks JamPack, but I’m really hoping you’re wrong... I emailed PAS just now, so I should get a response at some stage tmor.

    It’s probably wishful thinking though...


  • #8
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    ilovethistles wrote: »
    Hi, does anyone know if time in the public service counts towards your two year service requirement? Tia


    Apparently not. A girl at work here emailed to ask and was told it doesn't count


  • #9
    ilovethistles
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭ilovethistles


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Apparently not. A girl at work here emailed to ask and was told it doesn't count

    Ah sugar... thanks Gerry. I’ll just have to wait for 2021 so...


  • #10
    Sinus pain
    Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Sinus pain


    Not it doesn’t - I was caught out with that myself!


  • #11
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I was 2 weeks short for the ID competition for EO . My 8 months in the PS didn't count
    I now qualify for the heo :)


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  • #12
    ilovethistles
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭ilovethistles


    Thanks for all the replies guys... I was hoping this wouldn’t open until September ish... ah well... it’s not my time.
    Best of luck to you all xx


  • #13
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    I will try, but the whole process is so off putting.
    I wish they'd advertise location and number of vacancies, even just estimated.
    So much effort has to go in to a genuine application.


  • #14
    ilovethistles
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭ilovethistles


    Sinus pain wrote: »
    Advertised today closing 21/03/19

    Anyone else gonna throw their hat in the ring?

    https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&cid=102664

    Hi Sinus,
    Where did you get that link? I can’t find it on my pc on public jobs anywhere’s? Tia


  • #15
    eimaj18
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭eimaj18


    As it's interdepartmental, I think the link is just sent internally from the Civil Service Bodies to their staff, so I don't think it would be on the home page. I could be wrong though.


  • #16
    ilovethistles
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭ilovethistles


    eimaj18 wrote: »
    As it's interdepartmental, I think the link is just sent internally from the Civil Service Bodies to their staff, so I don't think it would be on the home page. I could be wrong though.

    Oh ok thanks, we will probably get it today then.


  • #17
    Littlefinger
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Littlefinger


    I'll be going for this but fully expect to be eliminated at shortlisting


  • #18
    Aisling(",)
    Registered Users Posts: 6,379 ✭✭✭Aisling(",)


    I'm going to give it a shot! I'm not an EO long but I'd love if I got to interview stage even just for the experience.


  • #19
    Aglomerado
    Registered Users Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    Aisling(",) wrote: »
    I'm going to give it a shot! I'm not an EO long but I'd love if I got to interview stage even just for the experience.

    The experience will stand to you. I applied for AP as an EO and got to interview. I failed , but I gained valuable experience, applied for HEO and aced it thanks to the AP experience. Good luck! :)


  • #20
    BobCat123
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭BobCat123


    Can AOs apply for this?


  • #21
    JamPack
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭JamPack


    BobCat123 wrote: »
    Can AOs apply for this?

    Don't think so unfortunately.

    "6. Grades equivalent to the Higher Executive Officer grade (i.e. have the same maximum pay
    scale or higher) are not eligible to compete in this promotion competition."

    And I think the AO scale finishes on the same point as the HEO scale.


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    thats interesting that public service doesnt count.

    thats new.


  • #23
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    It's not new.
    Same way civil service service doesn't count for public service roles.


  • #24
    LouD2016
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭LouD2016


    Has anyone else received an email advertising this? My department hasn't sent around anything and I cant find it on public jobs - only accessing it through the OP's link


  • #25
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Got an email to work and my personal address from HR communications-peoplepoint.


  • #26
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Addle wrote: »
    It's not new.
    Same way civil service service doesn't count for public service roles.

    my mistake

    i must not have been promoted in a competition where my public service counted

    i probably just imagined it


  • #27
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    An open competition perhaps.
    HEO is interdepartmental only.


  • #28
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,278 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    thats interesting that public service doesnt count.

    thats new.

    Its never counted- and there was union uproar when it was suggested to make similar grades analogous for precisely that purpose.


  • #29
    Sinus pain
    Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Sinus pain


    I got it through internal email


  • #30
    LouD2016
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭LouD2016


    Just got the email now!


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  • #31
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    I'm in AGS and haven't gotten any email. Thanks for posting the link OP or may not have heard about the competition!


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