The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

paulie21 wrote: »

Flacco been traded to the Broncos

As a broncos fan this news horrifies me , we need a qb for the future not some washed up guy who had a couple of good seasons.

If true, what is Elway at? I’d say it was a bad move even if they got him on a team friendly deal from FA but they’re now on the hook for his crazy contract. Ravens would want to have given them a pick for it.

He is a bridge. It won't stop Elway drafting a guy.

10mm in dead cap to cut Keenum
18.5mm to Flacco for 2019

And then they may throw another 5mm if they move up to (say) #5 for a QB.

D9Male wrote: »

He is a bridge. It won't stop Elway drafting a guy.

10mm in dead cap to cut Keenum
18.5mm to Flacco for 2019

And then they may throw another 5mm if they move up to (say) #5 for a QB.

Flacco is a bridge that is at best a marginal improvement on what they currently have (with an extra cost of 10.5m next year), apparently costing a mid-round pick to pick up, and he will be due 20.5m the following year, if the QB they draft keeps pace with Elway’s poor record and isn’t ready in 2020 for them to release.

They’re also still carrying dead cap from Lynch :pac:

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

This is a reflection of the ownership issues around the Broncos - the trust leaders need to get back into the play-offs as soon as possible.

Elway already spinning this as someone else's fault?

I suppose no one can take his spot as franchise GOAT QB if he keeps bringing in QBs that range from absolute garbage to distinctly average.

Foxtrol wrote: »

I suppose no one can take his spot as franchise GOAT QB if he keeps bringing in QBs that range from absolute garbage to distinctly average.

for all his faults I doubt this is one of them

Foxtrol wrote: »

Elway already spinning this as someone else's fault?

Nope - Elway hasn't commented at all.

Broncos fans are only too well aware of the issues around the ownership. Specifically here - Ellis has made an absolute shambles out of the naming rights for Mile High Stadium and has cost the Broncos somewhere in the region of $20-$25million in lost revenue since the SB win. He is now facing a situation, because the Broncos have had two losing seasons, that if he sells the naming rights now he will be low-balled on any offer he receives. For Ellis to get what the Broncos should have got he needs the team back in the play-offs as soon as possible - more primetime tv. Certain personnel decisions are being made for financial reasons rather than football reasons - and the acquiring of Flacco is part of that - a quick fix at QB to try and get into the play-offs next season. And by the way - Elway's future as GM is probably directly tied to Ellis's control of the trust - if Beth Bowlen gets control of the Broncos then Elway is likely out the door with Ellis.

By the way - it is still likely that the Broncos take a QB (and maybe even two) and I would be surprised to see the Broncos take Drew Lock at 1.10. And if Flacco turns out to be really awful (which is possible) he can be cut with no guaranteed money.

eagle eye wrote: »

You'd never how he might do in a different system. I don't think the Ravens have ever had a QB friendly offense.
Flacco could turn out to be a lot better than expected. Of course he could also be just done. He is only 34 so could have a few seasons in him yet.

The Broncos will be running the Shanahan version of the WCO - Flacco's best season was running a similar offence when Kubiak was the Ravens OC.

Trading for Flacco means that the Broncos don't have to draft a QB this year - in what is regarded as not a great QB class - they can afford to wait for next year when the QB class is much higher regard. I still think the Broncos might take Lock if he is available at 1.10 - he has the physical attributes for the offence the Broncos want to run.

https://twitter.com/ab84/status/1096838263736881152?s=21

Things are very messy in Pittsburgh.

If they can’t get a trade done and he sits out the season he may as well retire. He’ll be 31 shortly and still has 3 years left on his Steelers contract. They have him over a barrel so his continuing antics on Social media are very curious. Cannot see how he is helping himself.

Interesting article on the Franchise Tag which is quite relevant these days.
Wondering will the Player Association look to change it.

The NFL’s franchise tag is a scam. It’s time to kill it

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/2/19/18225141/nfl-franchise-tag-history-john-elway-nflpa-bargaining-kill-it

As much as I hate the franchise tag I don't see it being done away with as it won't ever affect >90% of players. The majority of players won't care enough to fight it as it simply isn't an issue for them. IMO it shouldn't ever have been a thing, players in the league have it tough enough as is. If it goes, I'll be happy with the decision, but I don't see it happening.

I would like to see an addition that if a player gets a long-term injury while on the tag the tag is automatically rolled forward at the same rate for the next season (if the player wants it). This would equalize some of the risk/reward. Yeah, I doubt the union fights too hard about the tag, at most maybe pushing for minor tweaks.

Like most unions they’ll once again shaft the future rookies to get more money for veterans. The franchise tag can suck for a player, but it is outrageous how long rookie deals last in the league compared to how long an average career is, especially given how low they are paid.