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Tyre age for NCT?

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  • 05-02-2019 8:37pm
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    muffler
    Registered Users Posts: 45,820 ✭✭✭✭


    The last twice (yearly tests) I put the car through the test I was given an advisory fail for the 2 rear tyres based on their age. There's probably not much more than 14k -15K clocked up on them so the threads are good. But as Im up for the test tomorrow again I was wondering if there is a limit on the number of times that you can be given an advisory fail for tyres? Anyone had an experience of this in the past?


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    johnayo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭johnayo


    No limit. Just advisory at the moment.


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    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    NCT manual http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/NCT/New%202018/NCT%20Manual%202018.pdf
    Advisory Pass applies where the date of manufacture is obvious on the tyre, a tyre older than six years.


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    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    muffler wrote: »
    The last twice (yearly tests) I put the car through the test I was given an advisory fail for the 2 rear tyres based on their age. There's probably not much more than 14k -15K clocked up on them so the threads are good. But as Im up for the test tomorrow again I was wondering if there is a limit on the number of times that you can be given an advisory fail for tyres? Anyone had an experience of this in the past?

    No, for simple reason that there is no advisory fail...


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    muffler
    Registered Users Posts: 45,820 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Thanks guys.

    Oh, advisory pass was the term I should have used apparently :)


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    w211
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭w211


    Normally tyre have 5 + 5 years life time. 5 years from manufacturing to sale sale and 5 years for using. I really understand why so many order these from online. They get the new stock from EU warehouses and do not need to worry how the local stock was stored.


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    wonski
    Registered Users Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    w211 wrote: »
    Normally tyre have 5 + 5 years life time. 5 years from manufacturing to sale sale and 5 years for using. I really understand why so many order these from online. They get the new stock from EU warehouses and do not need to worry how the local stock was stored.

    People order online to save money. Not to get the most recently manufactured tire.

    I doubt you get them any "newer" than from local sellers. Could be the opposite really.


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    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    wonski wrote: »
    People order online to save money. Not to get the most recently manufactured tire.

    Speak for yourself... I do it for various reasons, mainly not to deal with local garages that can offer me 'Hankooks or Pierellis' (don't they know there is more than one Pirelli in my size?!). Getting they cheaper and fresher is an added benefit.


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,871 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    w211 wrote: »
    Normally tyre have 5 + 5 years life time. 5 years from manufacturing to sale sale and 5 years for using. I really understand why so many order these from online. They get the new stock from EU warehouses and do not need to worry how the local stock was stored.

    I got 2 week old tyres supplied and fitted by a local supplier as cheap as online without any need to hual 4 tyres around. Ring around and you will get good value locally, you could just as easy get old tyres from a warehouse as local.


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    Alun
    Registered Users Posts: 21,418 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Del2005 wrote: »
    I got 2 week old tyres supplied and fitted by a local supplier as cheap as online without any need to hual 4 tyres around. Ring around and you will get good value locally, you could just as easy get old tyres from a warehouse as local.
    No need to haul anything around, get the tyres delivered to the fitter, easy.


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    muffler
    Registered Users Posts: 45,820 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    So, went in for the test this morning and the age of the tyres was never mentioned in the report. Strange, as it was noted in the last 2 tests.

    The only 2 little issues I had was a missing rubber cover on the accelerator pedal and a bit of water/moisture in one of the tail lights. I have to get those sorted and bring the car back for a visual inspection only. Happy days :)


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    zilog_jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    muffler wrote: »
    There's probably not much more than 14k -15K clocked up on them so the threads are good.

    But the problem with age isn't to do with mileage or tread (not "thread") - rubber perishes over time, so it becomes hard and brittle which decreases grip and increases the chance of punctures or blowouts. If there's visible cracking or crazing they need to go.


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    Amouar
    Registered Users Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭Amouar


    Alun wrote: »
    No need to haul anything around, get the tyres delivered to the fitter, easy.
    How much does it roughly cost to fit and balance a tyre bought online?


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    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Got mine done a few weeks back, €15 fitted and balanced

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    mikeecho
    Registered Users Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Is there any advantage to getting tyres in Newry ?


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    Amouar
    Registered Users Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭Amouar


    slave1 wrote: »
    Got mine done a few weeks back, €15 fitted and balanced

    Did you get the tyres delivered directly to them? Also is this in Dublin and does it include taking your old tyres for recycling?


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    muffler
    Registered Users Posts: 45,820 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    zilog_jones wrote: »
    But the problem with age isn't to do with mileage or tread (not "thread") - rubber perishes over time, so it becomes hard and brittle which decreases grip and increases the chance of punctures or blowouts. If there's visible cracking or crazing they need to go.
    Yeah, I realise that and understand why the NCT crew highlight these issues. I did have a neigbour who works in a tyre fitting depot have a look at mine and he said they were fine so Im happy enough for now anyhow.


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    muffler
    Registered Users Posts: 45,820 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Is there any advantage to getting tyres in Newry ?
    Im not far from the border and over the years I would always have got my tyres in NI apart from the odd occasion when I was stuck or a last minute rush before the NCT when I would have purchased in my local town. Tyres and batteries are generally cheaper in NI.


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    horse7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭horse7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/109351742#Comment_109351742

    Re: crazing and cracking, any photos of this, my tyres have lots of thread but are 6 years old, walls are perfect,but there are small cracks right along the circumference of the tyres.



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    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/109350569#Comment_109350569

    I'd still change them. Your life and that of your passengers and anybody else around your car essentially depend on 4 bits of rubber.



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    muffler
    Registered Users Posts: 45,820 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118367521#Comment_118367521

    I never said anything about crazing and cracking ..... almost 3 years ago!



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    Wailin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Wailin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118367639#Comment_118367639

    They passed the nct check.....they're fine.



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    #23
    maestroamado
    Registered Users Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I know a taxi company and they always buy tyres well before needed as he told me a few years ago he get 25% more from a tyre when the rubber hardens...



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    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,002 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    I'd say the Fail/Advisory on tyres over 6 years old serves to protect NCTS against claims.

    Not your ornery onager



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    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,260 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118369226#Comment_118369226

    Oh I'd believe it. Doesn't do anything for grip though.



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    billgibney
    Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭billgibney


    I think its an Ireland rip off thing

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    UK Site


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    Irish site.

    Gouging?



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    #27
    Miscreant
    Registered Users Posts: 2,197 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    I wouldn't say that is gouging. It is a recommendation and not mandatory to replace an old tyre. Even the NCT does not mark a tyre older than 6 years as a fail, just an advisory (as stated on page 93 of the NCT Manual: nct-tester-manual-june-2021.pdf (rsa.ie)).

    Prudence, however, would say that a vehicle owner should be checking their tyres regularly for signs of damage or perishing anyway. Whether that happens or not, is a different story. 🙂



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