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Ireland v England 4:45 Aviva Stadium
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02-02-2019 2:00pm#1
Head to Head
England have generally had the upper hand over Ireland in test rugby winning 76 of the 133 tests we've faced each other in.
Irish rugby however is reaching a point now where it needs to be described in more gregorian terms as there is life before Schmidt and AnnJoe Domini.
Since Joe has taken over a few stats:- We've won all our home games against England
- We've lost three and won three in total (one loss was a warm up game)
- We've won a game in Twickenham
Danger men England
Credit to England, they've lost the breakdown battle to Ireland repeatedly under Jones but are sticking to their guns by adding several ball carrying threats to their starting 15 with Hughes and Lawes to come off the bench.
Tom Curry comes in at openside in the absence of Simmonds and Underhill.
Vunipola is a game changer for any side be it Saracens or England and brings a dimension that Ireland are going to have to be mindful of. Tuilagi is an interesting one, he's a physical brute but he's being asked to defend the inside channel against the most technically accurate backline in World Rugby.
Mako gives England much needed experience and maturity at the set piece with the petulant Sinclair often in need of minding at International level.Danger men Ireland
Ireland are well coached, highly consistent and are adaptable. There isn't a lot else to say here - we are more than the sum of our parts and as a group marry both world class international talent with high skill and fitness levels across a pool of around 40+ players.
I expect a high level of intensity and accuracy from the get go. England will pull up and throw every sink they can find at Ireland but they need to keep throwing for 80 minutes because this group of players will not offer them a single free inch.The MatchI think Ireland are going to vary it up this afternoon. Sexton and Murray will test that English back three and look to land a few floaters around their 22.
I think both teams are going to try and hold onto the ball but I think Ireland have a more complete chance of actually doing that.
I think we'll be talking a lot this evening about Isolation and more specifically how England got themselves isolated and turned over at key intervals. England are going to get line breaks and are going to beat defenders with their primary carriers. It's what comes next that is the problem. Securing their ball against an athletic and accurate pack with plenty of poachers proved a step too far against a somewhat disinterested New Zealand in November. I think they'll fare worse today.
Ireland on the other hand are probably going to come out of the first half with more carries for less distance but we'll have more possession and better territory simply by retaining our ball more reliably and having more avenue's into their half by being prepared to kick. Going down through the England line up they don't look like a team set up to kick at all (which might be part of why Joe has slotted Henshaw in over Kearney).
As it often does with these two teams I just see it coming down to the breakdown, Jones hasn't done enough in my opinion to negate Ireland's dominance here and I think they will struggle to bring their back three into the game.
Putting an out of position Daly in at full back as a second distributor is fine but it shows a casual disregard for the potent kicking game Ireland will bring.
I just can't see how England win this if Ireland are as accurate and physical as they almost always are.Build Up
Team of us. Are you in. We're all in.
Vodafone have done a pretty good job of integrating their advertising message with the identify of this group of players.
All the provinces seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet. There is a lot of positivity about Irish rugby and a lot of talk about inclusiveness. Significant chunks of all four squads came back after the Summer with an extreme level of motivation, determination and fitness. This rugby season culminating in the world cup has made it's way into the DNA of this team and there is a group momentum there that is going to deliver something new and something special for Irish rugby.
It juxtaposes well with much of the talk about project players from previous seasons. I don't think the place of your birth should for the rest of your life define what community you can choose to belong to. I don't think people should shop around for the community that is going to pay them best either. But I think we've gotten the balance right and I was glad to see Bundee take pride of place in the ad I copied above.
What Bundee has done for Connacht rugby goes beyond his performances on the pitch. Some of the video's that regularly make their way onto social media show me a person that has all the values, integrity and decency that define Irishness for me. Of course these aren't traits unique to Ireland, but I'm happy to be represented by someone who clearly shares those values having brought them with them from abroad. The same goes for CJ and Quinn. If these guys want to represent Ireland they've earned the right to say they are part of the rugby community here - by contributing so much to the wider community in the process.
ResultIreland 31 - 12 England
I'm definitely all in anyway. As we saw during the summer tour to South Africa, England are capable of starting hard and fronting up but they are also capable of squandering a lead and throwing in the towel.
I think England has weaknesses that Ireland don't really suffer from and I don't think there is enough buy in between players and coaches nor enough raw rugby intelligence in that 23 to trouble a cohesive Irish team.
They've new combinations in critical positions and provided we don't give them easy entry into our 22 we'll be fine. England will score if they have good territory and if they have consistent good territory we'll lose the game.
I had a look at the correlation between Billy Vunipola's meters carried and his teams performances and it goes without saying that he is going to have to get the blue scrum cap Will Connors treatment.
If we neutralise their ball carrying effectively we will win the game. I don't think England have enough variety or confidence to their game to have a proper plan B.
I think we'll dominate the final quarter.
COME ON IRELAND29
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I ought to sue for copying my layout even if you do use big words like Juxtapose :pac:
Good work, though. The biggest enemy Ireland has to today are Irish nerves and overconfidence IMO. Everybody else here hasn't to worry about that, thank BOD, so a home win of 32-26 is my guess.
Head to Head
England have generally had the upper hand over Ireland in test rugby winning 76 of the 133 tests we've faced each other in.
Irish rugby however is reaching a point now where it needs to be described in more gregorian terms as there is life before Schmidt and AnnJoe Domini.
Since Joe has taken over a few stats:- We've won all our home games against England
- We've lost three and won three in total (one loss was a warm up game)
- We've won a game in Twickenham
Danger men England
Credit to England, they've lost the breakdown battle to Ireland repeatedly under Jones but are sticking to their guns by adding several ball carrying threats to their starting 15 with Hughes and Lawes to come off the bench.
Tom Curry comes in at openside in the absence of Simmonds and Underhill.
Vunipola is a game changer for any side be it Saracens or England and brings a dimension that Ireland are going to have to be mindful of. Tuilagi is an interesting one, he's a physical brute but he's being asked to defend the inside channel against the most technically accurate backline in World Rugby.
Mako gives England much needed experience and maturity at the set piece with the petulant Sinclair often in need of minding at International level.Danger men Ireland
Ireland are well coached, highly consistent and are adaptable. There isn't a lot else to say here - we are more than the sum of our parts and as a group marry both world class international talent with high skill and fitness levels across a pool of around 40+ players.
I expect a high level of intensity and accuracy from the get go. England will pull up and throw every sink they can find at Ireland but they need to keep throwing for 80 minutes because this group of players will not offer them a single free inch.The MatchI think Ireland are going to vary it up this afternoon. Sexton and Murray will test that English back three and look to land a few floaters around their 22.
I think both teams are going to try and hold onto the ball but I think Ireland have a more complete chance of actually doing that.
I think we'll be talking a lot this evening about Isolation and more specifically how England got themselves isolated and turned over at key intervals. England are going to get line breaks and are going to beat defenders with their primary carriers. It's what comes next that is the problem. Securing their ball against an athletic and accurate pack with plenty of poachers proved a step too far against a somewhat disinterested New Zealand in November. I think they'll fare worse today.
Ireland on the other hand are probably going to come out of the first half with more carries for less distance but we'll have more possession and better territory simply by retaining our ball more reliably and having more avenue's into their half by being prepared to kick. Going down through the England line up they don't look like a team set up to kick at all (which might be part of why Joe has slotted Henshaw in over Kearney).
As it often does with these two teams I just see it coming down to the breakdown, Jones hasn't done enough in my opinion to negate Ireland's dominance here and I think they will struggle to bring their back three into the game.
Putting an out of position Daly in at full back as a second distributor is fine but it shows a casual disregard for the potent kicking game Ireland will bring.
I just can't see how England win this if Ireland are as accurate and physical as they almost always are.Build Up
Team of us. Are you in. We're all in.
Vodafone have done a pretty good job of integrating their advertising message with the identify of this group of players.
All the provinces seem to be signing from the same hymn sheet. There is a lot of positivity about Irish rugby and a lot of talk about inclusiveness. Significant chunks of all four squads came back after the Summer with an extreme level of motivation, determination and fitness. This rugby season culminating in the world cup has made it's way into the DNA of this team and there is a group momentum there that is going to deliver something new and something special for Irish rugby.
It juxtaposes well with much of the talk about project players from previous seasons. I don't think the place of your birth should for the rest of your life define what community you can chose to belong to. I don't think people should shop around for the community that is going to pay them best either. But I think we've gotten the balance right and I was glad to see Bundee take pride of place in the ad I copied above.
What Bundee has done for Connacht rugby goes beyond his performances on the pitch. Some of the video's that regularly make their way onto social media show me a person that has all the values, integrity and decency that define Irishness for me. Of course these aren't traits unique to Ireland, but I'm happy to be represented by someone who clearly shares those values having brought them with them from abroad. The same goes for CJ and Quinn. If these guys want to represent Ireland they've earned the right to say they are part of the rugby community here - by contributing so much to the wider community in the process.
ResultIreland 31 - 12 England
I'm definitely all in anyway. As we saw during the summer tour to South Africa, England are capable of starting hard and fronting up but they are also capable of squandering a lead and throwing in the towel.
I think England has weaknesses that Ireland don't really suffer from and I don't think there is enough buy in between players and coaches nor enough raw rugby intelligence in that 23 to trouble a cohesive Irish team.
They've new combinations in critical positions and provided we don't give them easy entry into our 22 we'll be fine. England will score if they have good territory and if they have consistent good territory we'll lose the game.
I had a look at the correlation between Billy Vunipola's meters carried and his teams performances and it goes without saying that he is going to have to get the blue scrum cap Will Connors treatment.
If we neutralise their ball carrying effectively we will win the game. I don't think England have enough variety or confidence to their game to have a proper plan B.
I think we'll dominate the final quarter.
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