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Speed vans - Impressive camouflage

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  • 21-01-2019 12:26pm
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    DubInTheWest
    Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭


    I have to say the the speed vans camouflage is outstanding lately. I used to be able to see them in the distance to a certain extent, but the last 2 times I was literally 10 metres away before I saw them and if you were over the limit, you were gone. I was under both time, I think/hope.

    I was driving on a stretch of road today from Co Clare to Co Galway, just before the Crusheen exit. And right under a road sign but out of sight to the eye, there was the speed van. I think and hope the speed limit there is 120km, I was doing about 110km per hour.


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    markpb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,250 ✭✭✭markpb


    They're painted to look reflective but the material isn't actually reflective, unlike the Garda speed vans (and regular vans). With the extended dusk hours, it's a lot harder to see them.


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    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    So you were 10 metres away before you saw a big van.

    That's some pretty awful driving. Hopefully it'll happen to you a few times and you'll be off the road before long, making them a small bit safer for everyone else.


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    magicbastarder
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    i dunno, and i'm sure the OP will confirm, but i have a sneaking suspicion that the OP did not see it *as a speed van* until right on top of it.


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    DubInTheWest
    Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭DubInTheWest


    Hurrache wrote: »
    So you were 10 metres away before you saw a big van.

    That's some pretty awful driving. Hopefully it'll happen to you a few times and you'll be off the road before long, making them a small bit safer for everyone else.

    Stop being a clown. I'm driving over 20 years and not one penalty point.

    Yes 10 metres, about 36 feet. Read the thread title about impressive camouflage. They have the vans positioned very well.

    You really come across as a foolish person who can't read a thread properly.


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    GerardKeating
    Registered Users Posts: 7,527 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    DubInTheWest wrote: »
    but the last 2 times I was literally 10 metres away before I saw them and if you were over the limit, you were gone.

    Is this not a good thing. There are less of a deterient if those over the limit had time to slow down when they seem them.


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    DubInTheWest
    Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭DubInTheWest


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    i dunno, and i'm sure the OP will confirm, but i have a sneaking suspicion that the OP did not see it *as a speed van* until right on top of it.

    I didn't see it at all. The slight bend in the road and right under a sign. If anyone knows the stretch I'm talking about they will confirm.


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    DubInTheWest
    Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭DubInTheWest


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    Is this not a good thing. There are less of a deterient if those over the limit had time to slow down when they seem them.

    I never said whether this was a good or bad thing. The thread was just how well they are camouflage/hiding the vans lately.

    As I said, I'm driving over 20 years and not one point, so far. But I just thought there were supposed to be in full view, maybe I'm wrong on that.


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    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    DubInTheWest wrote: »
    Stop being a clown. I'm driving over 20 years and not one penalty point.

    Yes 10 metres, about 36 feet. Read the thread title about impressive camouflage. They have the vans positioned very well.

    You really come across as a foolish person who can't read a thread properly.

    I'd rather have issues with reading (which I don't), than having obvious issues with reading the road.

    You saw both speed vans, knew they were speed vans when you saw them, you weren't speeding. So what's your issue?


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    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Hurrache wrote: »
    I'd rather have issues with reading (which I don't), than having obvious issues with reading the road.

    Have a read of your opening post and try realise how stupid your complaint is.
    Yeah. That one didn’t work out for you. You might as well stop digging.

    ;)


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    Pkiernan
    Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Are there roads in Ireland that have a 120 kmh limit that aren't motorways?


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    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    DubInTheWest wrote: »
    But I just thought there were supposed to be in full view, maybe I'm wrong on that.


    That was the speel/ spin put on it originally, a visual deterrent. But I suppose the way these things work is that figures are needed in order to justify the operation. And if you need to boost your figures then you have to be a bit more proactive?


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    RederthanRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭RederthanRed


    Hurrache wrote: »
    So you were 10 metres away before you saw a big van.

    That's some pretty awful driving. Hopefully it'll happen to you a few times and you'll be off the road before long, making them a small bit safer for everyone else.

    WTF? :D


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    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Are there roads in Ireland that have a 120 kmh limit that aren't motorways?

    Yes, the N40 (south ring) in Cork springs to mind.


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    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Are there roads in Ireland that have a 120 kmh limit that aren't motorways?

    N1 north of Dundalk is 120 kmh.


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    joeysoap
    Registered Users Posts: 6,230 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Are there roads in Ireland that have a 120 kmh limit that aren't motorways?

    And there are roads that look and feels like motorways but with lower speeds limits
    limerick to around bunratty (that stretch anyway)
    The M1 to the airport north bound
    and the n7?


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    magicbastarder
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    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Are there roads in Ireland that have a 120 kmh limit that aren't motorways?
    and a small stretch on the N2 just north of finglas, IIRC.


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    magicbastarder
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    BarryD2 wrote: »
    That was the speel/ spin put on it originally, a visual deterrent. But I suppose the way these things work is that figures are needed in order to justify the operation. And if you need to boost your figures then you have to be a bit more proactive?
    nothing to do with figures. speed vans are pretty bloody useless if people have plenty of warning to slow down.


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    Mefistofelino
    Registered Users Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Yes, the N40 (south ring) in Cork springs to mind.
    The only section of the N40 that has a 120 km/h limit is the bit between the Curraheen and Poulavone junctions - after that it becomes the N22 heading West.

    The N25 is 120 km/h from Dunkettle to Carrigtohill


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    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,403 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Yes. Camoflauge.

    GN4_DAT_10234095.jpg--garda_speed_vans_to_monitor_60kph_speed_limit_at_kildare_motorway_roadworks_from_next_week.jpg


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    DubInTheWest
    Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭DubInTheWest


    bualadh bos to TheChizler, he knows how to post a picture on boards lol


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    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    nothing to do with figures. speed vans are pretty bloody useless if people have plenty of warning to slow down.

    ?Really? I distinctly recall when speed vans and signage were first installed that the RSA and Gardai were at pains to say that the objective was primarily to be a visual deterrent.


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    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Yes. Camoflauge.

    GN4_DAT_10234095.jpg--garda_speed_vans_to_monitor_60kph_speed_limit_at_kildare_motorway_roadworks_from_next_week.jpg

    Why did you post a picture of an empty road?


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    magicbastarder
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    BarryD2 wrote: »
    ?Really? I distinctly recall when speed vans and signage were first installed that the RSA and Gardai were at pains to say that the objective was primarily to be a visual deterrent.
    as i said, pretty bloody useless.
    all that means that if you can't see them, it's safe to speed.


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    McCrack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭McCrack


    To be fair - if you are watching out for them they are easy to spot well in advance - day or night


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,871 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    nothing to do with figures. speed vans are pretty bloody useless if people have plenty of warning to slow down.

    If they are in a dangerous location would it not be safer if they are highly visible and catch zero people, therefore reducing the risk at the location, instead of having people going too fast and catching loads. Wouldn't a speed trap that catches zero offenders be more effective than one that catches loads of people speeding?


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    Dravokivich
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    Del2005 wrote: »
    If they are in a dangerous location would it not be safer if they are highly visible and catch zero people, therefore reducing the risk at the location, instead of having people going too fast and catching loads. Wouldn't a speed trap that catches zero offenders be more effective than one that catches loads of people speeding?

    I think people need to own their actions. It wasnt the camera, whether or not you see it, that had the throttle down in the first place.


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    laotg
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭laotg


    magicbastarder wrote:
    and a small stretch on the N2 just north of finglas, IIRC.


    Nope. The 120 kmh signs mark the beginning of the motorway M2.


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    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,008 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    McCrack wrote: »
    To be fair - if you are watching out for them they are easy to spot well in advance - day or night

    There was one on the M50 southbound on the 120kph bit over the weekend that was only visible when you were within a couple of seconds of it.

    Not a concern as I was under the speed limit, but there was absolutely no way you'd be able to lose 20kph before getting blipped.

    I don't speed these days, but when I was caught about 15 years ago in the UK doing 99mph in a 60mph limit I was got by an officer with a laser tripod from 480m away. You'd need to be superman to spot that.


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    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    they don't park them so as they are hard to see, in actual fact they find it hard to find locations that fit the criteria where they can park


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    McCrack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭McCrack


    Lumen wrote: »
    There was one on the M50 southbound on the 120kph bit over the weekend that was only visible when you were within a couple of seconds of it.

    Not a concern as I was under the speed limit, but there was absolutely no way you'd be able to lose 20kph before getting blipped.

    I don't speed these days, but when I was caught about 15 years ago in the UK doing 99mph in a 60mph limit I was got by an officer with a laser tripod from 480m away. You'd need to be superman to spot that.

    They are not magical apparitions

    They are vans with very distinctive and reflective markings parked at the side of the road

    If you keep your eye focused along and far down the left side of the road you will spot them well in advance


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