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New England Patriots Thread Mod Warning Post #253

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Josh Gordon stepping away from football for mental health reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Coming out now that he is facing a suspension for failure to meet all terms on his substance abuse policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,798 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    boccy23 wrote: »
    Josh Gordon stepping away from football for mental health reasons.

    Yea it's a shame, there's obviously something fundamentally wrong with him. Just hope he takes adequate time off to fully address that, and hopefully it's not the last time we see him tog out, for us or another team. He's a fantastic talent but it never really worked out for him with us, despite some amazing moments.

    I think any minuscule hope we had at a Superbowl is now gone. Our receiving corps, which looked potentially brilliant on paper back when we got Gordon, looks lacklustre to say the least. Teams can now go back to doubling Gronk if there's any sniff of him being the player he once was, and outside of Edelman we've no reliable pass-catcher - not that he's the most reliable these days either.
    One thing we will most likely see more of is the short passes to White. Not too sure why we relented with them tbh, but there won't be too many other options from now on.

    The Bills game is looking like a real banana-skin. Their defense is legit, and if Josh Allen gets on a roll (especially against our run-D), we could be in serious trouble. The team really needs to show a bit of fight this weekend, on both sides of the ball. I think the Eagles will take the Texans in Philly, and if they do we're in prime position for the #2 seed with a victory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    I think any minuscule hope we had at a Superbowl is now gone.
    Still a chance with Brady, but it's a slim chance now.
    Bar we get a bit of luck to grab back the #2 seed, I don't see us making it to the AFC game.
    There's a major over haul required in the off season, particularly on offense. I was hopeful that we'd have Gordon, and a off season with Brady, he'd be the No1 receiver. But now, with Gronk looking done, Eldelman showing his age, nothing else at the TE position, thin at WR..... there's maybe too much to get done in one go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    boccy23 wrote: »
    Josh Gordon stepping away from football for mental health reasons.

    Ridiculous wasted talent, its not all about mental health either, the chap is smoking his brains out since he's about 12, his brain is fried. Has all the ingredients, but he would be better off away from it all, reminds me of Ricky Williams, there are lots of similarities in their stories.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    boccy23 wrote: »
    Josh Gordon stepping away from football for mental health reasons.

    Ridiculous wasted talent, its not all about mental health either, the chap is smoking his brains out since he's about 12, his brain is fried. Has all the ingredients, but he would be better off away from it all, reminds me of Ricky Williams, there are lots of similarities in their stories.
    Honestly probably better for his health than whatever Edelman put in his body. Or indeed the amount of alcohol drank by some players over the Christmas period.

    Certainly I would not advocate weed smoking or claim it is healthy generally but the puritan stance on weed is ridiculous. I don't get why performance enhancing drugs seem to not have the same effect. If someone wants to smoke weed and play I say let him as long he can perform.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Honestly probably better for his health than whatever Edelman put in his body. Or indeed the amount of alcohol drank by some players over the Christmas period.

    Certainly I would not advocate weed smoking or claim it is healthy generally but the puritan stance on weed is ridiculous. I don't get why performance enhancing drugs seem to not have the same effect. If someone wants to smoke weed and play I say let him as long he can perform.

    I don't have a puritan stance on it, but it affects people differently, it doesn't suit that chap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Honestly probably better for his health than whatever Edelman put in his body. Or indeed the amount of alcohol drank by some players over the Christmas period.

    Certainly I would not advocate weed smoking or claim it is healthy generally but the puritan stance on weed is ridiculous. I don't get why performance enhancing drugs seem to not have the same effect. If someone wants to smoke weed and play I say let him as long he can perform.

    I don't have a puritan stance on it, but it affects people differently, it doesn't suit that chap
    Sorry. Wasn't accusing you. I meant the stance of the NFL always seems overly harsh on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Sorry. Wasn't accusing you. I meant the stance of the NFL always seems overly harsh on it.

    Didn't take it that way at all, tiz grand. I think the amount of pressure on Josh Gordon would have contributed greatly to his mental health issues. Unfortunately, his success as a football player would lead to many more problems off the field. Watch ESPN 30 for 30 episode "Broke". See the kind of thing some people have to put up with.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    A couple of the tight losses this season coming back to bite us now, still an outside chance of no. 1 seeds but I doubt it, still bye week and Kansas/LA don't look unbeatable means it could be home field advantage for the playoffs.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    To win a division 10 years in a row is some record as well by the way, sure it could be considered a soft division but 10 years is a great record, I don't think any GAA team managed that in any of the provinces (outside of Antrim & Galway)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,923 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    We won five before Brady's injury cost him the season and we've won every one since that season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,923 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    During the game today when the Jets did something awful I started thinking about how lucky we are to have Bill Belichick. Then I started thinking how lucky we are to have Bob Kraft.
    Like Belichick was all set to take the Jets job and Kraft convinced him to come back to Foxboro and take the Patriots job.
    They could be us for the last 19 years and even more horrifying we could be like they have been.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,798 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Interesting to note that not one playoff team beat the Pats this year.

    Also finishing undefeated at home breaks the record for the most undefeated home seasons in the NFL (Vikings had 7, we're now on 8).

    Since 2010 only 4 teams have not played on wild card weekend. They are the Buccs, the Bears, the Browns and the Pats. Goes to 3 teams this year with the Bears finishing as the 3 seed.

    Pats become the first franchise with 500 regular season wins.

    Finally, one for all those (including me) who say Tom Brady hasn't looked great this year: he finishes the season with 300 less yards than last year, along with 3 less TDs and 3 more INTs. Last season he won the MVP.
    Still think his age is finally showing but its probably been blown out of proportion a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,923 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I don't think his age is showing at all. I think the OL has been poor. When he gets time he is as clinical as ever.
    You see him not looking good but he is throwing the ball away a lot to avoid the sack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,923 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Patriots have played four teams that made the playoffs this season, they are the Chiefs, Texans, Colts and Bears. 4-0 against them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,798 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Gilmore makes 1st team all-pro. Thoroughly deserved, he's had a fantastic season. Funny too as Jalen Ramsey told him to "try being a all-pro" back in September when they had a little spat.

    Patterson also made 2nd team all-pro as the kick returner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Frankie Cortese


    Gilmore makes 1st team all-pro. Thoroughly deserved, he's had a fantastic season. Funny too as Jalen Ramsey told him to "try being a all-pro" back in September when they had a little spat.

    Patterson also made 2nd team all-pro as the kick returner.

    It appears everyone Ramsey dissed (except Peyton Manning) has had a brilliant season since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭PhuckHugh


    Did a one dimensional Baltimore make the Chargers look better than they are last weekend? - No Doubting the Baltimore D, it's legit, but their O is very average and the Chargers had a good look at it 3 weeks prior...

    We dont have the pass rush, but they have to get pressure on Rivers - he'll turn it over if he's pressed. Obviously, If they can protect Brady, Pats have a great shot... big if tho. White is gonna have a monster day I think- --- Similarly, Ekeler the big worry for Chargers ... can see him do wreck on 3rd down.

    If the Pats are in it down the stretch they win ... Chargers got tired in the 4th Sunday and nearly collapsed .... on the road again this Sunday and can see more of the same - Chargers get a lead and Pats slowly reel them in. Just depends on how big a lead they have to chase down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭PhuckHugh




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    The Chargers have won in Seattle, at Pittsburgh, at KC and at Baltimore. Those are good wins. We need to be close to our best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭dh1985


    Think chargers are the best team left in the AFC. Don't think we will have enough to beat them even with home field advantage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Earleybird


    dh1985 wrote: »
    Think chargers are the best team left in the AFC. Don't think we will have enough to beat them even with home field advantage

    Behind the Chiefs and the Pats they are probably the joint best team left in AFC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,923 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Earleybird wrote:
    Behind the Chiefs and the Pats they are probably the joint best team left in AFC

    The Chargers and Patriots have both beaten the Chiefs. They lost to us in Gillette and the Chargers in Arrowhead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭dh1985


    Earleybird wrote: »
    Behind the Chiefs and the Pats they are probably the joint best team left in AFC

    Think we had an easier schedule than them and the chargers have better momentum coming into playoffs. The chargers were 12-4. Seedings don't always reflect everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,923 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The Chiefs record looks better than it actually is when you look closer.
    They had two good wins to start the season, they beat the Chargers in LA and the Steelers in Pittsburgh.
    Besides that their best win was over the Ravens at Arrowhead in overtime.
    Their other wins were the Broncos x 2, the Raiders x 2, and then the Browns, Bengals, Jags, 49ers and Cards.
    Their losses have come against the Patriots, Chargers, Rams and Seahawks.

    So they've lost to pretty much all the better teams they've played.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭PhuckHugh


    We are going to dismantle them .... Old man Rivers will have a meltdown in a chilli fox'boro - We will dink and dunk it to White, Edleman and Burkhead all day ---- Gronk can still block if he cant catch.... someone needs to test Gordon's knees early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭me89




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭Justin10


    me89 wrote: »

    Can anyone find a forecast that predicts snow, everywhere I've checked predicts cold cloudy weather?
    PhuckHugh wrote: »
    someone needs to test Gordon's knees early.

    Nice.. The Patriot way


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭PhuckHugh


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    Can anyone find a forecast that predicts snow, everywhere I've checked predicts cold cloudy weather?



    Nice.. The Patriot way

    There's only one way, the winning way.


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