Smashing Pumpkins -New Music

I had a great time, the show was really good much better than I expected.....

I ended up in the amazon prime lounge which meant no queuing up for beers which was a great.

Sorry I missed meeting up think my phone was having isssues

UrbanSprawl wrote: »

Where was that then?
I really wouldn't fancy going to Wembley to see a band again,be grand for a footie match but not for a band. Damn expensive as well paying 6.80 for a beer.
Still they are great band and its a great show,artistic imagery.
There was an image of a woman and her hand started moving very slowly around the drummers head must try to find it on youtube.

The amazon lounge was to the left of the stage behind the line of the security barrier it had a good view but the main advantage was that they had plenty bar staff on.

Definatly the most expensive gig I have ever been to, ok for a once off but can’t see myself going to Wembley arena again myself.

Thought the set list was great but don’t get why they played the theme song from dumbo at the end of what billy had on his head😂

Really enjoyed the gig. Got in just in time before Pumpkins started. The queues outside for every entrance and ticket collection were crazy. Only had one beer at the gig. Had a few beforehand and wanted to remember the show. The covers were fine but can't understand why a band with such an extensive catalogue of songs need to do covers. We didnt get Muzzle or Solara as they ran out of time. Standout tracks were Hummer, Soma, Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans, Thirty-Three and The Everlasting Gaze. New song Silvery Sometimes sounded great again. If they do ever come back, I'll be going again.

Yes there's also an SP thread in rock and metal.

Just saw Q gave the new album four stars. I doubt it'll be a four star "album". Q rarely give albums less than 3 stars anyway.

^ Agreed. I listened to it once and went for a second listen but couldn't get over the half way mark. Shame.

Very hard to get past that vocal part at 41 seconds... awful.

I've heard the whole album, and it's not bad! Even veering towards pretty good!

There's one track called Marchin' On which is an old style rocker, sounds very 1995, with old style Billy vocals. Best thing they've done in years.

With Sympathy is another nice one, quite reminiscent of Try Try Try. Has James on backing vox.

Seek and You Shall Destroy sounds a bit like Metallica, and strangely the dry production works for these rock songs.

Overall the tracks have more of a Machina vibe than anything else. Better than Monuments as it sounds more cohesive, even though stylistically the songs are all quite different. The other songs put the three released into context (though Knights of Malta is still really weird).

It's a pity there's only 8 tracks, but as a mini-album or extended EP it works quite well. Hopefully they do Part 2 and it continues in this vein. And then the album they make after that is a return to the shoegaze style of the earlier work!

It's not bad. Its not amazing. They're a different band now, in their 50's, it'd be stupid to expect a Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie 2. I just don't fully like the sound of a Rick Rubin produced record. I felt the same with Metallica's 'Death Magnetic'. The drums do not sound right to me at all. Its much more of a joy to hear Jimmy Chamberlin play live. I don't hear his power enough on this album. Highlights are Solara, Marchin On (bit of the old angry Billy vocals there), Travels and Seek And You Shall Destroy. But I've always enjoyed the rockier side of Pumpkins. My disappointment is that with 3 guitarists, that the guitars are not louder on record. They are not the band they were, but there is still enough there to keep me a fan. Knights Of Malta is an abomination though. Could Corgan not have have used a guitar for the 'woah' s instead of his voice?

RicketyCricket wrote: »

It's not bad. Its not amazing...

Ha I'd began typing my post up only saw yours when I posted, seems I've achieved in sounding off like a right copycat :pac:

There's something about Billy's voice being too far forward in the mix or too in your face the last few records. In their heyday it was way mellower sounding and back in the mix a bit with the guitars to the fore. It just takes me out of the record too often these days.

eviltimeban wrote: »

It's a pretty well known issue among the fans. His vocals have been different from Zwan onwards, with a few exceptions. He's been essentially singing with a fuller voice, adding a lot of vibrato to the end of every line, and often every phrase. This coupled with the fact that his voice is being mixed a lot higher with no effects on it gives the music a different sound.

He's very touchy about it too. He's been asked about it many times on his IG Q&As and he gets his back up about it. He maintains he can still sing the old way and sometimes does onstage "for fun".

He also claims that the reason the voice is mixed so high is so they can be "competitive" - as if a radio station is going to play SP alongside Drake and all that! He should concentrate on making the best music, on an album, that his fans will listen to and enjoy.

But no. Billy being Billy.

Yeah it's a shame because there have been a lot of potentially great tracks ruined by this.

Billy is playing a solo show in The Olympia in June. All seated.

eviltimeban wrote: »

At €70 a ticket, he can forget about it.

My thoughts exactly more than double the cost of Glasgow show too, he can keep it!