The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

jack presley · 06-10-2018 06:04PM

I'm a baseball and NFL fan and I always begin each season with (false) optimism for my teams, Mets and Redskins.

So when after a month into the baseball season and things have gone pear shaped for the Mets, I begin to look forward to the NFL season and think things will be better for the Redskins. But then by week 6 or 7 and the Redskins aren't looking any good either, I think to myself that next year's Mets season promises to be good.

So I'm permanently in the position of looking forward with optimism to my team in the other sport's next season.

Shedite27 · 07-10-2018 08:31AM

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Die hard Leeds fan my whole life and we’re flying but I now look forward to NFL Thurs/Sun/Mon more

Anyone else ever get like this, transitioning from one sporting love to another?

It's great that it's on at a time slot that doesn't clsh with anything else

BonnieSituation · 07-10-2018 01:02PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

As a hurling fan it's very handy that the seasons barely overlap. When the super bowl ends the league is just getting going, and the all Ireland is usually around the same time as the beginning of the football season.

The GAA to NFL rotation is the business.

Throw in the LOI and NHL and I'm pretty much covered.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 07-10-2018 03:12PM

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Die hard Leeds fan my whole life and we’re flying but I now look forward to NFL Thurs/Sun/Mon more

Anyone else ever get like this, transitioning from one sporting love to another?

Was a massive Spurs fan but grew disillusioned with the sport. The competitions are barely interesting - you know that there's a 99% probability that the winner of pretty much any (club) soccer tournament will be one of 3/4 teams. I'd only really watch the big games now and the latter stages of competitions (aside from world cup/euros).
Am definitely a GAA man however, but there's no overlap with the inter-county scene. Would definitely be playing american football if it wasn't for the gaelic football. I tried it for a while but it wasn't really feasible.

I find the NFL absolutely enthralling. I was saying to friend at the start of last season that there was any one of about 9 teams that could realistically win the Superbowl, and not one of them did. There's no other sport like it in that regard.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 07-10-2018 09:26PM

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

I was saying to friend at the start of last season that there was any one of about 9 teams that could realistically win the Superbowl, and not one of them did. There's no other sport like it in that regard.

True, but it is designed that way. The draft giving the worst team the best picks, the cap to limit the spending of the big teams/markets, no relegation....
So there is a certain artificial aspect to the competitive nature of the sport; i.e. you don't get a Leicester winning the PL, Atletico winning La Liga ...against some incredible odds.
Obviously there have been some major upsets, but in a cup competition you'll get that in a lot of sports.

BonnieSituation · 08-10-2018 04:23AM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

True, but it is designed that way. The draft giving the worst team the best picks, the cap to limit the spending of the big teams/markets, no relegation....
So there is a certain artificial aspect to the competitive nature of the sport; i.e. you don't get a Leicester winning the PL, Atletico winning La Liga ...against some incredible odds.
Obviously there have been some major upsets, but in a cup competition you'll get that in a lot of sports.

To an extent but then you get freak periods like the last18 years of the patriots and our runs with Manning.

Just because the jets and bills and browns and raiders suck are not our fault.

You don't get the level of equalisation that the NFL has in any other League. Even the NHL can't pull that off.

Look at the oilers, they put the browns to shame

Christy42 · 08-10-2018 07:15AM

Anyone have any idea what is happening to kickers this year?

Crosby last went to pieces in good conditions and would be a good kicker. It feels like kicking percentages are way down

ELM327 · 08-10-2018 08:21AM

Shedite27 wrote: »

Some great shouts above, one honourable mention I always thought should have gone bigger was the cornerback Asamugha.

Great shutdown guy (3 probowls) but played 10 seasons on some awful teams.
- 8 seasons with the Raiders, apart from one 8-8 seasons, best record outside of that was 5-11
- 2 seasons with the Eagles, 8-8 and 4-12
- 1 season with the 49ers, started 2-2 before he was waived

Over a 4 year period in his prime, he averaged less than a catch a game.

One year, he intercepted 8 of the 40 balls thrown in his direction

For most of that time he was on QB equaling money, and the opposing QB pretty much never threw in his direction.
He had a great career, and when you look at the amount of money spent keeping him in OAK, you'd have to wonder why he didnt take a pay cut to go to NE for a year like Moss etc

Always Be Closing · 08-10-2018 10:15AM

Christy42 wrote: »

Anyone have any idea what is happening to kickers this year?

Crosby last went to pieces in good conditions and would be a good kicker. It feels like kicking percentages are way down

I don't think my horse Harrison Butker has missed one

He's been unreal

brinty · 08-10-2018 10:26AM

Dan Bailey
Not as automatic anymore
Think Brett Maher missed his first and none since justifying why cowboys went with him

ELM327 · 08-10-2018 10:29AM

Speaking of kickers, how's Randy Bullock doing these days?

He's been (in)famous in my household since the legendary line of commentary "lock up your cows, here's Randy Bullock".

EDIT: I see he's with the Bengals now.

Adamocovic · 08-10-2018 11:06AM

ELM327 wrote: »

Speaking of kickers, how's Randy Bullock doing these days?

He's been (in)famous in my household since the legendary line of commentary "lock up your cows, here's Randy Bullock".

EDIT: I see he's with the Bengals now.

I wonder what happened to Tavecchio. He sort of slipped away to FA obscurity.

Seemed like he was getting a fairytale story. Overlooked, signed and waived or dropped over and over again until Janikowski get's injured. Comes in and does unbelievably well to begin with.

I remember him getting the game ball and doing the speech. Didn't think he did awful after that either, fairly solid kicker. Then he quitely got waived by the Raiders this off season, signed and subsequently dropped by Falcons, and even after all the kicking disasters doesn't appear to be getting a look at.

Hell even when Nugent who led the Raiders to waive him got hurt the Raiders didn't even go back to him. Looks like he's fallen completely and makes me wonder if he will have a chance again in the league.

He may just become a piece of obscure Football Trivia.

pedatron · 08-10-2018 11:28AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

The GAA to NFL rotation is the business.

Throw in the LOI and NHL and I'm pretty much covered.

Club hurling can run on until October some years so there's a slight overlap for me! Otherwise the rotation of both is ideal!

Always Be Closing · 08-10-2018 08:59PM

Should the Saints beat a 5.5 point handicap against the Skins tonight?

eagle eye · 08-10-2018 09:33PM

Adamocovic wrote:

I wonder what happened to Tavecchio. He sort of slipped away to FA obscurity.

And Marquette King too. He looked pretty damn good for the Raiders last year and then got cut in the off-season.

brinty · 08-10-2018 10:25PM

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Should the Saints beat a 5.5 point handicap against the Skins tonight?

Yes

eagle eye wrote: »

And Marquette King too. He looked pretty damn good for the Raiders last year and then got cut in the off-season.

King went to broncos on thre year deal and cut already I believe

Itssoeasy · 08-10-2018 10:51PM

The eagles running back jay ajayi has torn his ACL in his left knee according to Ian rappaport.

Well damn it anyway. Looks like Smallwood and clement will have to step up more.

08-10-2018 11:25PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The eagles running back jay ajayi has torn his ACL in his left knee according to Ian rappaport.

Well damn it anyway. Looks like Smallwood and clement will have to step up more.

Is that the knee that was ****ed before? If so I really hope they don't extend him. Spotless dgould be coming back at some point also right?

Either way we're doing nothing unless the o-line and secondary step up

Itssoeasy · 08-10-2018 11:30PM

Lily Thoughtless Swimmer wrote: »

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The eagles running back jay ajayi has torn his ACL in his left knee according to Ian rappaport.

Well damn it anyway. Looks like Smallwood and clement will have to step up more.

Is that the knee that was ****ed before? If so I really hope they don't extend him. Spotless dgould be coming back at some point also right?

Either way we're doing nothing unless the o-line and secondary step up

No it was his right knee that was injured before this is the left knee. Spotless ? I presume you mean sproles ? I've no idea when he's back.

Yeah the o line is woefully bad and the less said about the secondary the better.

08-10-2018 11:33PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

No it was his right knee that was injured before this is the left knee. Spotless ? I presume you mean sproles ? I've no idea when he's back.

Yeah the o line is woefully bad and the less said about the secondary the better.

I did indeed autocorrect being autocowrong

Don't think we're up to much this year but in fairness we have a lot of guys coming in to the team late and at this time last year Alex smith was an MVP fave so plenty of time yet

Jolly Red Giant · 10-10-2018 06:58AM

brinty wrote: »

King went to broncos on thre year deal and cut already I believe

King has been put on IR - he has a groin injury (sports hernia) - 4-6 weeks recovery - then he will be released.

OOnegative · 10-10-2018 07:02AM

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

King has been put on IR - he has a groin injury (sports hernia) - 4-6 weeks recovery - then he will be released.

https://clutchpoints.com/broncos-news-denver-releases-punter-marquette-king/amp/

He’s been released.

Jolly Red Giant · 10-10-2018 07:55AM

OOnegative wrote: »

https://clutchpoints.com/broncos-news-denver-releases-punter-marquette-king/amp/

He’s been released.

Must have agreed an injury settlement

helimachoptor · 10-10-2018 08:34AM

Titans cut the WR Nick Williams, who dropped the end zone catch that would have been the game winning TD.

Adamocovic · 10-10-2018 12:02PM

Wonder how serious talks are of Eagles asking about McCoy.

Surprisingly enough I could see Bills going along with it if they got a good deal. Most Bills fans are agreeing that despite loving him they'd be fine with seeing him go back to Philly for the right offer. Very much in a rebuild phase and would probably be best for McCoy too in terms of chances of success.

Jolly Red Giant · 10-10-2018 12:14PM

You know your days as a head coach are numbered when this starts happening -

On Monday the Denver defence had a players only meeting - to discuss 'philosophical differences' between the players and the coaches - the players claim that the coaches are not putting them in a position to win. The meeting was to work out what they want to say to the coaches.

Apparently Vance Joseph wants to hear their 'feedback' - probably because he hasn't a clue what he is doing himself.

Adamocovic · 10-10-2018 12:17PM

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

You know your days as a head coach are numbered when this starts happening -

On Monday the Denver defence had a players only meeting - to discuss 'philosophical differences' between the players and the coaches - the players claim that the coaches are not putting them in a position to win. The meeting was to work out what they want to say to the coaches.

Apparently Vance Joseph wants to hear their 'feedback' - probably because he hasn't a clue what he is doing himself.

It's pretty much the template for the beginning of the end

brinty · 10-10-2018 12:20PM

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

You know your days as a head coach are numbered when this starts happening -

On Monday the Denver defence had a players only meeting - to discuss 'philosophical differences' between the players and the coaches - the players claim that the coaches are not putting them in a position to win. The meeting was to work out what they want to say to the coaches.

Apparently Vance Joseph wants to hear their 'feedback' - probably because he hasn't a clue what he is doing himself.

Adamocovic wrote: »

It's pretty much the template for the beginning of the end

I wish we had some of those meetings in Dallas

Realt Dearg Sec · 10-10-2018 12:34PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Wonder how serious talks are of Eagles asking about McCoy.

Surprisingly enough I could see Bills going along with it if they got a good deal. Most Bills fans are agreeing that despite loving him they'd be fine with seeing him go back to Philly for the right offer. Very much in a rebuild phase and would probably be best for McCoy too in terms of chances of success.

There's also rumors the eagles are looking at trading for Jordan Howard as well. He's been getting fewer reps in the new bears offense and tarik Cohen is getting more. Seems like he doesn't fit the scheme. I would think letting a top 10/15 rb go when the team is in the playoff hunt and he offers so much to the team (in short yardage situations especially, but he's clearly our better rb), on a rookie contract, with the always present threat of injuries, for a mid round draft pick next year, is stupid. But it's the rumour.

jack presley · 10-10-2018 01:19PM

https://twitter.com/captandrewluck/status/1050008067377483776?s=21

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