The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

brinty · 04-10-2018 11:53AM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Andrew Luck. Drafted by a team that almost certainly tanked to get him, was their only good draft pick, basically, for years, but allowed several incompetent men to keep their jobs, all while a generational talent was being pissed away to the point where, even though he's still playing for them, he never comes up in discussions of great current quarterbacks anymore. Would love to see him play with a good team.

I could only imagine how good Andrew Luck would be behind an o line like the fully functioning great wall of Dallas (Smith, Williams, Frederick, Martin and Collins) or the Rams O line (who look very talented too)where he'd be able to stand in the pocket and avoid the hits. I think he'd certainly get the cowboys closer than they've been in the last 25 years.

04-10-2018 12:22PM

Shedite27 wrote: »

Some great shouts above, one honourable mention I always thought should have gone bigger was the cornerback Asamugha.

Great shutdown guy (3 probowls) but played 10 seasons on some awful teams.
- 8 seasons with the Raiders, apart from one 8-8 seasons, best record outside of that was 5-11
- 2 seasons with the Eagles, 8-8 and 4-12
- 1 season with the 49ers, started 2-2 before he was waived

Over a 4 year period in his prime, he averaged less than a catch a game.

One year, he intercepted 8 of the 40 balls thrown in his direction

But wasent he just not targeted a lot because the rest of the raiders d was dog**** at the time?

BizzyC · 04-10-2018 12:22PM

Joe Thomas.
11 seasons, 10 straight pro bowl, over 10k consecutive snaps...
He played 167 games over his career, with a 48-119 record.

raze_them_all_ · 04-10-2018 12:33PM

BizzyC wrote: »

Joe Thomas.
11 seasons, 10 straight pro bowl, over 10k consecutive snaps...
He played 167 games over his career, with a 48-119 record.

Ask anyone to name someone better in his position and they can't. He is the ultimate waste of a career

BonnieSituation · 04-10-2018 12:37PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Andrew Luck. Drafted by a team that almost certainly tanked to get him, was their only good draft pick, basically, for years, but allowed several incompetent men to keep their jobs, all while a generational talent was being pissed away to the point where, even though he's still playing for them, he never comes up in discussions of great current quarterbacks anymore. Would love to see him play with a good team.

Ah the Rodgers Defence...

In fairness you would feel that Indy are on the way out of the mire now... As I said... Feel...

Realt Dearg Sec · 04-10-2018 12:42PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Ah the Rodgers Defence...

Rodgers won a Super Bowl though, and made it to the playoffs for many years. Sadly those days are behind him now.

BonnieSituation · 04-10-2018 12:44PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Rodgers won a Super Bowl though, and made it to the playoffs for many years. Sadly those days are behind him now.

How very dare you

OOnegative · 04-10-2018 12:56PM

Anthony Munoz, Bruce Matthews, Junior Seau? Granted Munoz played on two Super Bowl teams and Seau one, they played on more mediocre teams than good ones. All 3 in the Hall of Fame.

raze_them_all_ · 04-10-2018 01:08PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Rodgers won a Super Bowl though, and made it to the playoffs for many years. Sadly those days are behind him now.

True the mighty bears and amazing vikings toppled the Packers when they met this year

eagle eye · 04-10-2018 02:17PM

Junior Seau went to the Superbowl with the Chargers and played four seasons, including the unbeaten regular season, with the Patriots.
Munoz played in two tight Superbowl losses against the 49ers.
Matthews played in one Superbowl, a close loss to the greatest show on turf.

Jolly Red Giant · 04-10-2018 04:34PM

Tony Gonzalez TE Chiefs

17 years and never missed a game
6 post-seasons - in five failed to win a game
make the AFC conference game when he was 36 (which they lost)

Wille Roaf OT Saints
13 seasons - 11 pro-bowls
he was 30 when he played in his first post-season game - never made it past the divisional round in two post-seasons.

Dan Marino QB Dolphins
17 seasons
Many post-seasons and even a SB - but he carried the Miami team every single season that he played. It really is astonishing how badly the Dolphins wasted Marino's career by never coming close to building a roster capable of helping him to win a SB.

MileHighGuy · 04-10-2018 08:22PM

Well, I wouldn't exactly call it a wasted career, but I saw a story about Logan Mankins ....played for the Patriots from 2005 - 2013, 7 time pro bowler, 1 all Pro, 5 times 2nd team all Pro.....never won a super bowl. Which is strange considering the pats pretty much swept all before them in the decade.

Christy42 · 04-10-2018 09:35PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Andrew Luck. Drafted by a team that almost certainly tanked to get him, was their only good draft pick, basically, for years, but allowed several incompetent men to keep their jobs, all while a generational talent was being pissed away to the point where, even though he's still playing for them, he never comes up in discussions of great current quarterbacks anymore. Would love to see him play with a good team.

Whatever about his talent level I think he may have been forced backwards a bit. Maybe he will recover but he is at about 9 yards per completion, the lowest by a starter by a decent distance for the season and was dragged off for the hail Mary.

Definitely a waste though.

Realt Dearg Sec · 04-10-2018 09:59PM

Yeah he hasn't been helped by the amount of pummeling he's taken over the years either, which is again down to being with a **** team

letowski · 04-10-2018 10:21PM

Christy42 wrote: »

Whatever about his talent level I think he may have been forced backwards a bit. Maybe he will recover but he is at about 9 yards per completion, the lowest by a starter by a decent distance for the season and was dragged off for the hail Mary.

Definitely a waste though.

There are a couple more variables involved with that stat, other than questionable arm strength (which is a legitimate concern). This year the Colts have both their starting tackles injured and on top of that, other than Hilton, they have no other receiver that can play on the perimeter and create separation downfield. Reich's offense is up tempo, quick release to protect Luck from getting hit this year as he recovers.

Having said that he is getting there though, he had a 464 yard, 4 TD, 0 INT performance last week, with maybe the worst receiving options in the league and a coaching staff that shamelessly disregard the run game.

letowski · 04-10-2018 10:27PM

Good to see Suh out there practicing the new QB sack rule..

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1047965870687846400

helimachoptor · 05-10-2018 10:17AM

letowski wrote: »

Good to see Suh out there practicing the new QB sack rule..

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1047965870687846400

watch him do it sunday :pac:

Jolly Red Giant · 05-10-2018 06:40PM

Forgot one player who should be on the list of great players on sh*te teams

Dick Butkus - ILB - Chicago Bears (1965-1973)

8× Pro Bowl (1965–1972)
6× First-team All-Pro (1965, 1967–1970, 1972)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1966, 1971)
2× NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1969, 1970)
NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
NFL 1960s All-Decade Team
NFL 1970s All-Decade Team

The Bears had two winning seasons during his career - 1965 & 1967. Butkus never played in a post-season game. In 1972 Butkus signed a five year deal worth $115,000 a year - with a no-cut, no-trade clause and was guaranteed in the event of injury and the Bears were to provide necessary medial attention and hospital care. In 1973 he suffered a serious knee injury and never played again. Butkus was forced to sue the Bears to get them to pay the remainder of his contract and he also sued them for medical neglect causing irreparable damage to his knee. The Bears eventually settled by paying the full value of the four years remaining on his contract.

Not alone was Butkus a great player on a terrible team - he was treated disgracefully by the team owner, George Halas, when he couldn't play anymore.

06-10-2018 05:25AM

Not as much great player on a ****e team because they had the Don Coryell era, but Dan Fouts has to be one of the greatest to never reach a Super Bowl.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 06-10-2018 09:52AM

MileHighGuy wrote: »

Well, I wouldn't exactly call it a wasted career, but I saw a story about Logan Mankins ....played for the Patriots from 2005 - 2013, 7 time pro bowler, 1 all Pro, 5 times 2nd team all Pro.....never won a super bowl. Which is strange considering the pats pretty much swept all before them in the decade.

He was traded for Tim Wright (TE) and a 4th (eventually used on Trey Flowers) in August, and they win the SB the following Feb.

Always Be Closing · 06-10-2018 10:07AM

Chiefs bandwagoners getting right on my tits

Where were they when we were 2-14?

Jolly Red Giant · 06-10-2018 10:38AM

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Chiefs bandwagoners getting right on my tits

Where were they when we were 2-14?

Chiefs are looking good - Mahomes looks like the real deal.

They were lucky to beat the Broncos - Reid out-coached Joseph in the fourth quarter (not a difficult task to be honest).

Reid is the right guy in the right place to maximise Mahomes potential.

AHN · 06-10-2018 11:10AM

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Chiefs bandwagoners getting right on my tits

Where were they when we were 2-14?

In the chiefs fans thread you said you got into the chiefs in october 2016 which means youve only seen us finish 12-4, 10-6 and 4-0 this season so far. We were only 2-14 in 2012 so the question is where were you when we were 2-14!!

Always Be Closing · 06-10-2018 03:01PM

AHN wrote: »

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Chiefs bandwagoners getting right on my tits

Where were they when we were 2-14?

In the chiefs fans thread you said you got into the chiefs in october 2016 which means youve only seen us finish 12-4, 10-6 and 4-0 this season so far. We were only 2-14 in 2012 so the question is where were you when we were 2-14!!

Hardly the glamorous glory hunting winning selection of an NFL team- perennial bottlers in the P/O’s, only team on NFL Europe store who’s away jersey isn’t sold, not won a Suberb Owl in 50 years- I’m anything but a band wagoner and I know them when I see them- mostly the Twitterati doing cumming emojis at every Mahomes throw or Kelce’s new haircut or beard styling

I never said I was around for 2-14 season

Foxtrol · 06-10-2018 03:03PM

https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1048584817351282689

Jolly Red Giant · 06-10-2018 05:09PM

Broncos have placed Marquette King, P, on IR - with a plan to release him when he is healthy.

King signed a 3 year - $6million deal with the Broncos in April.

King will be paid $1.5million and the Broncos will carry a dead cap number of $166,666 for the next two years.

Looks like the Raiders were right - after booming kicks all over the field during pre-season, King has been brutal in the first four games - against the Chiefs he had a net average of 28.7 yards.

Colby Wadman will punt against the Jets - he was signed to the Broncos practice squad ten days ago (after spending less than two months with the Raiders before being released in May).

Always Be Closing · 06-10-2018 05:19PM

Die hard Leeds fan my whole life and we’re flying but I now look forward to NFL Thurs/Sun/Mon more

Anyone else ever get like this, transitioning from one sporting love to another?

raze_them_all_ · 06-10-2018 05:21PM

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Die hard Leeds fan my whole life and we’re flying but I now look forward to NFL Thurs/Sun/Mon more

Anyone else ever get like this, transitioning from one sporting love to another?

Untied fan started to really phase out about 2 years left of Fergus ons reign

Always Be Closing · 06-10-2018 05:26PM

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Die hard Leeds fan my whole life and we’re flying but I now look forward to NFL Thurs/Sun/Mon more

Anyone else ever get like this, transitioning from one sporting love to another?

Untied fan started to really phase out about 2 years left of Fergus ons reign

You’ll have Zidane soon enough

Wouldn’t be my choice but he’ll rekindle Manchester United fans interest

Realt Dearg Sec · 06-10-2018 05:47PM

Always Be Closing wrote: »

Die hard Leeds fan my whole life and we’re flying but I now look forward to NFL Thurs/Sun/Mon more

Anyone else ever get like this, transitioning from one sporting love to another?

As a hurling fan it's very handy that the seasons barely overlap. When the super bowl ends the league is just getting going, and the all Ireland is usually around the same time as the beginning of the football season.

The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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