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N59 - Oughterard to Clifden [Phase 1 under construction]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 975 flatty


    Connemara locals unhappy.
    Who'd a thunk it?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    http://www.todayfm.com/player/podcasts/The_Last_Word_with_Matt_Cooper/The_Last_Word_with_Matt_Cooper/66056/1/cp_2/

    Discussion on this scheme with Eamon O Cuiv and John Gibbons during the week.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭ Middle Man


    marno21 wrote: »
    http://www.todayfm.com/player/podcasts/The_Last_Word_with_Matt_Cooper/The_Last_Word_with_Matt_Cooper/66056/1/cp_2/

    Discussion on this scheme with Eamon O Cuiv and John Gibbons during the week.

    The purpose of a road is to get people for A to B safely and efficiently. Now, the pavement will be a minimal 7m (Single Type 3) - one has be to reasonable regarding social responsibility towards the people - I did travel that road and I can tell you that from the point of view of allowing people to go about their daily lives, it is unfit for purpose!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Slightly positive news.. advance works will continue from Maam Cross stretching 4km east to the townland of Bunnakill in advance of a realignment.

    The rest is off the table for now.
    https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2017-09-20a.1597


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    In the paper again..

    http://connachttribune.ie/call-for-government-to-prioritise-beleaguered-n59-in-national-development-plan/

    Perhaps the unlucky councillor might like to familiarise himself with the scheme.

    The Maam Cross-Bunnakill realignment looks to start in 2019 and the Moycullen bypass in 2021.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭ Dr_serious2


    Any advance on this? We would take a Moycullen bypass and some surface improvement at this stage.

    A climbing lane or two between Maam Cross and Oughterard would be fantastic too. Is that totally out of the question?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Any advance on this? We would take a Moycullen bypass and some surface improvement at this stage.

    A climbing lane or two between Maam Cross and Oughterard would be fantastic too. Is that totally out of the question?

    Moycullen bypass should start in 2021. A 6km section from Maam Cross eastwards should start in 2019, with the rest tbc but it does have planning approval. Maam Cross to Clifden was refused planning.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 59,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011


    Was thinking Maam Cross to Clifden was a bit big for a single scheme. Checked and its under 35km road distance! And the scheme was less than that again. So incredibly slow to drive particularly if caught behind a tourist, a bus or a tourist bus...


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    L1011 wrote: »
    Was thinking Maam Cross to Clifden was a bit big for a single scheme. Checked and its under 35km road distance! And the scheme was less than that again. So incredibly slow to drive particularly if caught behind a tourist, a bus or a tourist bus...

    Yep, the planned scheme was 29km. There was 4km done as a pilot scheme at Derrylea back in 2010 but the rest is back on the shelf for now


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    PIN gone out for 5km stretch to start in 2019.


  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭ Aontachtoir


    marno21 wrote: »
    PIN gone out for 5km stretch to start in 2019.
    Where does this stretch start and end Marno? Thanks.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Where does this stretch start and end Marno? Thanks.

    Link didn't copy.

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/rwlentrance_s.asp?PID=129358&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1

    Starts at Ma'am Cross and heads east for 5km


  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭ Aontachtoir


    marno21 wrote: »
    Thanks Marno. It's a shame they're only doing 5 km of the 77 km or so of road out to Clifden, but better than nothing I guess. I visited that neck of the woods last summer - the section they're upgrading isn't even the worst bit of the road. Wonder why they chose it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭ veryangryman


    Thanks Marno. It's a shame they're only doing 5 km of the 77 km or so of road out to Clifden, but better than nothing I guess. I visited that neck of the woods last summer - the section they're upgrading isn't even the worst bit of the road. Wonder why they chose it.

    Closer to galway so id guess more aadt. No sure though


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Thanks Marno. It's a shame they're only doing 5 km of the 77 km or so of road out to Clifden, but better than nothing I guess. I visited that neck of the woods last summer - the section they're upgrading isn't even the worst bit of the road. Wonder why they chose it.
    Closer to galway so id guess more aadt. No sure though

    TII currently have a policy of upgrading medium length (25-40km) sections of what they define as "low volume national secondary" routes. These routes are often in environmentally challenging areas, have low traffic volumes (often seasonal) and are mainly terrible stretches of road. These upgrades are mostly online and cheap (~€3m/km) and deliver large benefits even with the low volumes. The spec for these is 3.0m lanes and 0.5m hard strips giving a 7.0m pavement width. They are being done in short 3-5km chunks, rather than the whole length in one go.

    The N59 from Oughterard to Clifden is one of the schemes TII started on a few years back (the others are N56: Dungloe-Glenties, N59: Westport-Mulranny and N86: Tralee-Dingle). TII applied for planning permission for the Clifden-Oughterard scheme in two sections, firstly Maam Cross-Clifden which was rejected planning by An Bord Pleanala for enviromental reasons, and Maam Cross-Oughterard which was approved on condition that TII consulted with the NPWS before proceeding.

    The section from Maam Cross to Bunnakill will be the first part of the Oughterard-Maam Cross section to go ahead. The other 12km will be completed down the line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭ Heartbreak Hank


    marno21 wrote: »
    The spec for these is 3.0m lanes and 0.5m hard strips giving a 7.0m pavement width. They are being done in short 3-5km chunks, rather than the whole length in one go.


    Is there not to be a parallel cycle track à la the N86 to Dingle?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Is there not to be a parallel cycle track à la the N86 to Dingle?
    There is, I forgot to mention that, I was posting just about the road pavement itself.

    The full benefit of these cycle paths won't be realised until the full N59 upgrade is done. They will benefit the villages along the route though as they make accessibility better, the cycle lanes into Annascaul on the N86 are a great job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭ Dr_serious2


    Good news today it appears - a couple of miles improvement of the road around Recess.

    In my opinion this road urgently needs to be upgraded for the people of Connemara - the population of the Clifden area plummeted in the last census while the rest of the country (and mostly everywhere else in Galway) was rising. It is increasingly difficult to live with this shambles of a national route.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 D Trent


    http://connachttribune.ie/new-bridge-for-oughterard-village-as-old-structure-to-be-bypassed-by-main-n59-traffic/

    "New bridge for Oughterard village as old structure to be bypassed by main N59 traffic"


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭ Dr_serious2


    marno21 wrote: »

    What do you think will be the long term future of the N59 Marno?


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭ Dr_serious2


    There are traffic lights at Streamstown, the Letterfrack side of Clifden, since before Christmas last year as the road seems to have partially subsided. No sign of any work since. Sad really, the contempt in which locals are held.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Work to start on Ma’am Cross to Bunnakill in September

    https://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/109297/progress-made-on-galway-clifden-road-confirms-cuv

    Oughterard-Bunnakill is in consultation with NPWS. After these are complete Clifden-Ma’am Cross will re-enter planning


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭ Dr_serious2


    From Councillor Eileen Mannion:

    I am delighted that the contract for works on the N59 approach road to Letterfrack has been awarded to P & D Lydon.

    The works which are due to get underway in November and are expected to last 30 weeks include the realignment of a section of road, construction of a new standard carriageway, hard strips and verges.

    The proposed works also includes the improvement/realignment of the access road to the National Park and the project includes earthworks, drainage and pavement works, and the excavation of a large quantity of rock.
    The advanced works contract which included clearing the site was carried out earlier this year.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Maam Cross-Bunnakill to commence construction in November. 5.2km of Type 3 SC

    https://galwaydaily.com/news/months-of-n59-roadworks-to-begin-in-november/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Tender award in next 2 weeks

    https://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/110827/kyne-welcomes-progress-on-n59-oughterard-to-maam-cross-upgrade

    NPWS have also cleared work to begin on fencing the next stretch from Bunnakill to Claremont


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




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