John Bolton fanatic

wes wrote: »

War in Iran would be a disaster for the US. It isn't nearly as divided as Iraq. ISIS etc won't be able to make much head way, as the Shia's will fight them tooth and nail, as they know ISIS will annihilate them otherwise.

The US will be fighting a united populace, because the moment they invade, all the issues people have with there own government will be put to the side, to fight off a foreign invader.

Also, if Iran is invaded after dropping there nuclear weapons program, I guarantee you that every rogue regime who can , will go for broke for nuclear weapons. It won't just be North Korea, but every tin pot dictator, King, and President for life would be mad not to immediately start a nuclear weapons program to defend themselves.

Also, the same Islamic extremists (who hypocritically would be happy to wipe out Shia), will use the attack on Iran, much like they did the Iraq war, as major propaganda to recruit people to there cause. The level of terrorism from Islamic extremism we see in the "West" these days is directly due to the Iraq war, despite the architects of that war, pretending that is not the case. An attack on Iran will see similar terrorism in revenge to another war of aggression.

Bolton is one of the most dangerous people on the planet. The only good thing about the current regime in the US, is that he is just as likely to be fired in under 6 months.

Bolton is a very dangerous and let's hope he is not in power for long. It is time Trump ends his little experiment with courting Gilead types and go back to his pre-presidential moderate political views (yes, Trump even was a champion of Obama and held moderate political views up until 2013 or so).

This obsession with Iran may or may not lead to 'Gilead' unleashing a war on that country. If they did, it would indeed be disasterous. Of course, they would be fighting against a united country. Whether they support the current Republic, a reformed Republic or a return to monarchy, Iranians most certainly do not want an invading army from a corrupt evil power deciding it for them. Furthermore, no Iranian would have any time at all for Bolton's preferred regime for Iran: the MeK.

So, how would Gilead fare if it decided to go to war with Iran? First off, Khamenei's regime would be defeated within 2 months. But the Revolutionary Guards joined by many others would wage an insurgency that would ensure Gilead's control of Iran would not extend much further than Tehran and the Caspian Sea area (the new regime would be a US/Gilead puppet and if it were the MeK, one without any Iranian support whatsoever). Because Iran has a long and strategic coast, the insurgency could seriously disrupt shipping. The popularity of the Gilead regime would fall to an all time low and an alternative US government would be demanded. Recession, high oil prices, terrorism and other threats would emerge. Even if the Republicans remained in power, demand for Gilead types like Bolton to be fired would have to be met.

Because of all this, Iran would be considered too risky for a war. But Bolton could choose somewhere else. All he needs is an excuse to go to war. Then find a weak country that is easy to invade. But it is equally likely Bolton and co could find an internal enemy than an external one.

Extremism is all too alive in modern America and the Gilead types have forced their way into power in movements like The Tea Party and into high office of Republican administrations often not even elected. We have seen acts of terrorism like the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords come completely from the Gilead type movements. And we have had Timothy McVeigh before that. But now more than ever there are people in high office who at best generalise white supremacist terrorism and at worst even side with it.

The primary fear of course with Bolton is how a major terrorist attack on the US mainland akin to 9/11 could be used to excuse a war, curbing of civil liberties and so on. In The Handmaid's Tale, we see a terrorist attack carried out by forces sympathetic to Gilead that takes out the president and much of the US government allowing in a fascist regime who had the excuse of implementing emergency laws. In the real world, 9/11 allowed in some less draconian emergency laws.

Post-terrorist attack periods by their very nature demand total control and suspension of normality until the danger is passed. They also make the people demand revenge for what was done. Sometimes, a terrorist attack can be used as an excuse to go to war with a foreign enemy as in 9/11 being used to eventually go to war with Saddam's Iraq. The American propaganda had from 1990 to 2003 successfully branded Saddam as the biggest threat to humanity despite they knowing full well he posed no threats. Many went blindly along with America's role as world policeman protecting the world from tyranny.

What if a terrorist attack happened under Bolton's 'Gilead' type regime of today? It could be used as an excuse to curb democracy. In Handmaid's, a self orchestrated terrorist attack paved the way to set up Gilead. If one thinks this is just fiction, Hitler and co used the attack on the German parliament as an excuse to rally his people behind an anti Jewish and anti communist agenda thus eliminating any serious opposition to Nazism.

The current regime could use a terrorist attack in many ways. A foolish war against a concocted enemy would be the foreign response no doubt. At home, it would be used as a way to target perhaps the FBI and CIA (which the Gilead type regime has targeted as being corrupt) and purge it of 'collaborators'. Others could use it as an excuse to get rid of the weak and inconsistent president Trump and pin the whole Russian collaboration as something that runs deep within both US parties and thus demanding a 'temporary emergency government of indefinite duration'. In the past, Gilead like elements tried to sell the insane idea that moderate ex president Obama was a Muslim and even an ISIS puppet. Thankfully, despite 9/11 and so on, the American people have not bought a lot of what is being attempted to be sold to them. Plenty Americans know 9/11 was milked for all it was worth and used as an excuse for wars that made terrorism worse not better. Bolton and co also know that they probably would never get elected if they ran for office and that's why they instead use fear based devious methods to get into power.

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Israel's Channel10 reported that Netanyahu is set to make "significant" televised announcement on Iran on Monday evening at 8pm local time (5pm GMT)

This what happens when you allow Neocons to control the White House again.

It's only a matter of time, the entire region goes to war. Iran will not be like Iraq. Iran is like Afghanistan terrible terrain to fight a long war.

Netanyahu has proved time and time again he is a corrupt, ineffective leader who diverts attention away from his shortcomings by going to war on his neighbours. I cannot see why the 'Gilead' types love this guy so much. If he was called Saddam or Milosevic or Gaddafi, he'd not be liked!

Trump is a fool to sell his soul to the 'Gilead' devil. The likes of Bolton do not belong in any American government and it is time America gets a proper government again, instead of a weak president who hasn't a clue what he is doing by letting in a very dangerous group of people who unfortunately know exactly what they are doing. Bolton was dropped correctly by George W Bush and that should have been the end of his career forever. When will Trump wake up? Can someone do a Luke Skywalker here and tell Trump to change allegiance akin to how Luke got Darth Vader, his father, to change in the end? Or will Trump Wars have no happy ending! The more Trump does nothing and allows these types to dominate the government, the closer to The Handmaid's Tale world we will get. Would Bolton repress people in the name of the state? Would Bolton pioneer the use of nuclear weapons on 'enemies' to end wars quickly? Would Bolton use a terrorist act to declare emergency laws? Sadly the answer to all this is yes. And Trump and his family could begin to regret allowing them in the door when it is too late. Trump is not one of them and he needs to realise this. He thinks he is using them when in fact they are using him.