PSNI Recruitment - Stage 2 - The Assessment Centre

Koph89 · 28-02-2018 3:57pm

lol thanks mrlovalova22

didn't want to pry too much but glad to hear they go over things a lot haha

Koph89 · 10-03-2018 6:37pm

Survived the AC - just about!
Have a general query about the AC centre - does anyone know if certain parts of the AC are weighed more than others or what way do Deloitte assess it?
Like most people, I feel I was stronger on some parts and weaker on others...Just wondering how it's all weighed if anyone has any general insight?
Thanks

Homer01 · 10-03-2018 6:51pm

Koph89 wrote: »

Survived the AC - just about!
Have a general query about the AC centre - does anyone know if certain parts of the AC are weighed more than others or what way do Deloitte assess it?
Like most people, I feel I was stronger on some parts and weaker on others...Just wondering how it's all weighed if anyone has any general insight?
Thanks

Different bits get different marks. For example a role play would have more available marks than another bit. It is very possible to mess one bit up, do really well in another and get a good pass.

Best of luck!!

Koph89 · 10-03-2018 7:00pm

Thank you Homer!
So hard to know what way it went... arghhhh now the waiting game...
Thanks for your insight :)

majgreen · 10-03-2018 7:32pm

Koph89 wrote: »

Survived the AC - just about!
Have a general query about the AC centre - does anyone know if certain parts of the AC are weighed more than others or what way do Deloitte assess it?
Like most people, I feel I was stronger on some parts and weaker on others...Just wondering how it's all weighed if anyone has any general insight?
Thanks

It doesn't carry more weight than another part so to speak. Each part is graded and it's your overall average grade that scores you. Like homer said, one bad section doesn't mean you're out!

Koph89 · 11-03-2018 1:39pm

Thanks Maj! Fingers crossed

stm1 · 11-03-2018 9:05pm

Of those that pass the AC how many do you reckon make it to GV?

Banterbus28 · 11-03-2018 9:27pm

stm1 wrote: »

Of those that pass the AC how many do you reckon make it to GV?

Goinby the fact they are clearing the merit pool from 1509 everyone who passed PCA, medical, substance misuse and vetting is getting in.

stm1 · 11-03-2018 10:24pm

Is there any info out there to say how many fail the stages after AC?

NiK9 · 11-03-2018 10:32pm

You could submit a freedom of Information if you want to know the exact numbers.

NiK9 · 24-04-2018 4:36pm

Well now that the 1710 campaign AC is over I thought I'd come share some of the ways I prepared for the AC.
The main thing I used was acronyms to remember the personal behaviours. And as soon as I got my note pad at the AC I spent the "free time" writing it down on each page so I knew exactly what I had to do during each role play.

And In the spare time between role plays and action plans I spent time writing a small report about what had happened in the previous role play.

So the acronym I used for the personal behaviours was: ....

Applications -- Accountability
Seemed

Service delivery
Overly

Openness to change
Simple

Serving the public

Candidates --- Courtious
Found

Fairness
Reading

Respect
Posts

Professionalism
Did

Decision making
Wonders

Working with others

Another acronym for the roles plays I used was "ILEAPT"

Introduce
Listen
Empathy
Ask "questions"
Paraphrase (to confirm details)
Tell--- *The person what you're going to do/how you're going to help them.

Faugha · 24-04-2018 4:50pm

NiK9 wrote: »

Well now that the 1710 campaign AC is over I thought I'd come share some of the ways I prepared for the AC.
The main thing I used was acronyms to remember the personal behaviours. And as soon as I got my note pad at the AC I spent the "free time" writing it down on each page so I knew exactly what I had to do during each role play.

And In the spare time between role plays and action plans I spent time writing a small report about what had happened in the previous role play.

So the acronym I used for the personal behaviours was: ....

Applications -- Accountability
Seemed
Service delivery
Overly
Openness to change
Simple
Serving the public

Candidates --- Courtious
Found
Fairness
Reading
Respect
Posts
Professionalism
Did
Decision making
Wonders
Working with others

Another acronym for the roles plays I used was "ILEAPT"

Introduce
Listen
Empathy
Ask "questions"
Paraphrase (to confirm details)
Tell--- *The person what you're going to do/how you're going to help them.

We possibly had guidance from the same quarters. The report still hit me with a shock though

NiK9 · 24-04-2018 4:52pm

Faugha wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

Well now that the 1710 campaign AC is over I thought I'd come share some of the ways I prepared for the AC.
The main thing I used was acronyms to remember the personal behaviours. And as soon as I got my note pad at the AC I spent the "free time" writing it down on each page so I knew exactly what I had to do during each role play.

And In the spare time between role plays and action plans I spent time writing a small report about what had happened in the previous role play.

So the acronym I used for the personal behaviours was: ....

Applications -- Accountability
Seemed
Service delivery
Overly
Openness to change
Simple
Serving the public

Candidates --- Courtious
Found
Fairness
Reading
Respect
Posts
Professionalism
Did
Decision making
Wonders
Working with others

Another acronym for the roles plays I used was "ILEAPT"

Introduce
Listen
Empathy
Ask "questions"
Paraphrase (to confirm details)
Tell--- *The person what you're going to do/how you're going to help them.

We possibly had guidance from the same quarters. The report still hit me with a shock though

Lol I made the top one myself but seen the ileapt on posts here. Yea I think the report writing hit most people hard.

Robocop2k16 · 24-04-2018 5:01pm

Thats pretty much how I went about my role plays too. Tbh I think it was my action plans that dragged me down. They turned into a bit of a scribble due to the time.

Banterbus28 · 24-04-2018 5:03pm

Robocop2k16 wrote: »

Thats pretty much how I went about my role plays too. Tbh I think it was my action plans that dragged me down. They turned into a bit of a scribble due to the time.

You could be one mark off fast track threshold, be positive ffs ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚

Nap702 · 24-04-2018 5:04pm

NiK9 wrote: »

Well now that the 1710 campaign AC is over I thought I'd come share some of the ways I prepared for the AC.
The main thing I used was acronyms to remember the personal behaviours. And as soon as I got my note pad at the AC I spent the "free time" writing it down on each page so I knew exactly what I had to do during each role play.

And In the spare time between role plays and action plans I spent time writing a small report about what had happened in the previous role play.

So the acronym I used for the personal behaviours was: ....

Applications -- Accountability
Seemed
Service delivery
Overly
Openness to change
Simple
Serving the public

Candidates --- Courtious
Found
Fairness
Reading
Respect
Posts
Professionalism
Did
Decision making
Wonders
Working with others

Another acronym for the roles plays I used was "ILEAPT"

Introduce
Listen
Empathy
Ask "questions"
Paraphrase (to confirm details)
Tell--- *The person what you're going to do/how you're going to help them.

If I s aid to the role play actor during the exercise, like state the obvious as in, ‘The PSNI is open to change and to do this, we will be workin with others,’ will that get me them top marks or do you have to say Something in a way that your referring to them competencies? For example, I understand your concern but we will be workin with the council to resolve this matter’ (showing working with others)

Hope you understand what I mean.

NiK9 · 24-04-2018 5:20pm

Nap702 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

Well now that the 1710 campaign AC is over I thought I'd come share some of the ways I prepared for the AC.
The main thing I used was acronyms to remember the personal behaviours. And as soon as I got my note pad at the AC I spent the "free time" writing it down on each page so I knew exactly what I had to do during each role play.

And In the spare time between role plays and action plans I spent time writing a small report about what had happened in the previous role play.

So the acronym I used for the personal behaviours was: ....

Applications -- Accountability
Seemed
Service delivery
Overly
Openness to change
Simple
Serving the public

Candidates --- Courtious
Found
Fairness
Reading
Respect
Posts
Professionalism
Did
Decision making
Wonders
Working with others

Another acronym for the roles plays I used was "ILEAPT"

Introduce
Listen
Empathy
Ask "questions"
Paraphrase (to confirm details)
Tell--- *The person what you're going to do/how you're going to help them.

If I s aid to the role play actor during the exercise, like state the obvious as in, ‘The PSNI is open to change and to do this, we will be workin with others,’ will that get me them top marks or do you have to say Something in a way that your referring to them competencies? For example, I understand your concern but we will be workin with the council to resolve this matter’ (showing working with others)

Hope you understand what I mean.

Yea mentioning "partners" is always the way to go. E.g., community watch groups, victim support, local community groups.
Openness to change I said thing like "I'm going to do this, this and that. How do you feel about that? We can also meet local representatives and see if local people have any other ideas to help."

Faugha · 24-04-2018 5:23pm

Nap702 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

Well now that the 1710 campaign AC is over I thought I'd come share some of the ways I prepared for the AC.
The main thing I used was acronyms to remember the personal behaviours. And as soon as I got my note pad at the AC I spent the "free time" writing it down on each page so I knew exactly what I had to do during each role play.

And In the spare time between role plays and action plans I spent time writing a small report about what had happened in the previous role play.

So the acronym I used for the personal behaviours was: ....

Applications -- Accountability
Seemed
Service delivery
Overly
Openness to change
Simple
Serving the public

Candidates --- Courtious
Found
Fairness
Reading
Respect
Posts
Professionalism
Did
Decision making
Wonders
Working with others

Another acronym for the roles plays I used was "ILEAPT"

Introduce
Listen
Empathy
Ask "questions"
Paraphrase (to confirm details)
Tell--- *The person what you're going to do/how you're going to help them.

If I s aid to the role play actor during the exercise, like state the obvious as in, ‘The PSNI is open to change and to do this, we will be workin with others,’ will that get me them top marks or do you have to say Something in a way that your referring to them competencies? For example, I understand your concern but we will be workin with the council to resolve this matter’ (showing working with others)

Hope you understand what I mean.

What you could have said was...

“I am taking ownership of this issue and give you my assurance that I will endeavour to help you. I cannot promise you that I will arrest said person but I can promise you that I will follow up on the information you have given me and return to you with a response in an agreed time frame. Ask if they agree and create cohesive agreements. Explain that you appreciate the person is nervous about speaking to police but your organisation is about policing with the community and that it is only with community support and engagement that you can underpin this ethos and commend them for their bravery in taking a stand for their community.

Banterbus28 · 24-04-2018 5:25pm

Faugha wrote: »

Nap702 wrote: »

NiK9 wrote: »

Well now that the 1710 campaign AC is over I thought I'd come share some of the ways I prepared for the AC.
The main thing I used was acronyms to remember the personal behaviours. And as soon as I got my note pad at the AC I spent the "free time" writing it down on each page so I knew exactly what I had to do during each role play.

And In the spare time between role plays and action plans I spent time writing a small report about what had happened in the previous role play.

So the acronym I used for the personal behaviours was: ....

Applications -- Accountability
Seemed
Service delivery
Overly
Openness to change
Simple
Serving the public

Candidates --- Courtious
Found
Fairness
Reading
Respect
Posts
Professionalism
Did
Decision making
Wonders
Working with others

Another acronym for the roles plays I used was "ILEAPT"

Introduce
Listen
Empathy
Ask "questions"
Paraphrase (to confirm details)
Tell--- *The person what you're going to do/how you're going to help them.

If I s aid to the role play actor during the exercise, like state the obvious as in, ‘The PSNI is open to change and to do this, we will be workin with others,’ will that get me them top marks or do you have to say Something in a way that your referring to them competencies? For example, I understand your concern but we will be workin with the council to resolve this matter’ (showing working with others)

Hope you understand what I mean.

What you could have said was...

“I am taking ownership of this issue and give you my assurance that I will endeavour to help you. I cannot promise you that I will arrest said person but I can promise you that I will follow up on the information you have given me and return to you with a response in an agreed time frame. Ask if they agree and create cohesive agreements. Explain that you appreciate the person is nervous about speaking to police but your organisation is about policing with the community and that it is only with community support and engagement that you can underpin this ethos and commend them for their bravery in taking a stand for their community.

Seems a bit robotic.

Role actor is a person.

My last AC that i failed be a mark was 100% due to me being robotic. A member of the public is not gonna trust and relax when dealing with a robot in uniform.

You can be professional, relatable and yourself at the same time.

Faugha · 24-04-2018 5:30pm

I had 5 mins approx to hit the competencies - bear in mind my personality is not coming across in whstvyou read. All I can say is that after almost £500 with of coaching and help from officers etc it got me a fast track. So each to their own and what works for you may not work for others.

Faugha · 24-04-2018 5:32pm

Oh and that’s my first ever AC and fast tracked so I’m happy enough.

Banterbus28 · 24-04-2018 5:33pm

Faugha wrote: »

I had 5 mins approx to hit the competencies - bear in mind my personality is not coming across in whstvyou read. All I can say is that after almost £500 with of coaching and help from officers etc it got me a fast track. So each to their own and what works for you may not work for others.

My point is don't forget to be yourself. They are looking at YOU. If you be yourself but apply all the competencies and behaviours then you will be fine.
If you be yourself the other stuff like ILEAPS/T will just flow naturally.

500 quid for this return of all goes well was money well spent.

Banterbus28 · 24-04-2018 5:35pm

I am a supporter of coaching, but a lot of the AC stuff is down to practice.

What you do well is what you do often.

That AC I got to I went in blind with no coaching, paid the price.

Faugha · 24-04-2018 5:38pm

Banterbus28 wrote: »

Faugha wrote: »

I had 5 mins approx to hit the competencies - bear in mind my personality is not coming across in whstvyou read. All I can say is that after almost £500 with of coaching and help from officers etc it got me a fast track. So each to their own and what works for you may not work for others.

My point is don't forget to be yourself. They are looking at YOU. If you be yourself but apply all the competencies and behaviours then you will be fine.
If you be yourself the other stuff like ILEAPS/T will just flow naturally.

500 quid for this return of all goes well was money well spent.

Point notes and I agree with be yourself but il be honest, it was a role play and I played the game. The actor said very very little as I did my bit and then said “so what would you like to talk to me about”

I’m not to bothered really, I’d have s stood on my head and sang the French national anthem if it meant a pass.

Yeah £500 was steep but I went on a few different classes as took no chances.

Banterbus28 · 24-04-2018 5:39pm

Maxi or whatever his new name is didnt use a coach. And got fast tracked, yes he did have the the experience of doing it before but I can guarantee he just applied the competencies and behaviours whilst being himself.

At the end of the day how you get to the castle doesn't matter as 23 weeks in GV plus 3 years in district is where you will be tested for real

jwhdkl5736 · 25-04-2018 9:06am

Banterbus28 wrote: »

Maxi or whatever his new name is didnt use a coach. And got fast tracked, yes he did have the the experience of doing it before but I can guarantee he just applied the competencies and behaviours whilst being himself.

At the end of the day how you get to the castle doesn't matter as 23 weeks in GV plus 3 years in district is where you will be tested for real

Maxi is posting under the auspices of ML515 for various reasons. Someone worked out who my name was in real life and asked me at a bus stop....:eek:

And yeah, Banter is right. I think the whole coaching thing wasn't required at all to pass, said that before I got AC results. All the info you need is here. All I done, again as banter said was apply the competencies in a very obvious and literal way using the 'ILEAPS' framework discussed here.

Also, got my new PCA date.

Banterbus28 · 25-04-2018 9:25am

If having a tutor gives you that confidence boost by all means crack on.

jwhdkl5736 · 25-04-2018 10:15am

Banterbus28 wrote: »

If having a tutor gives you that confidence boost by all means crack on.

That's what I think it is, just a sense of being better prepared. I think it's placebo but there is 100% no pay walls to getting on in the recruitment process.

Banterbus28 · 25-04-2018 11:26am

ML515 wrote: »

Banterbus28 wrote: »

If having a tutor gives you that confidence boost by all means crack on.

That's what I think it is, just a sense of being better prepared. I think it's placebo but there is 100% no pay walls to getting on in the recruitment process.

However once you have been to a tutor, make notes as once you get the basic concepts in your head you can just practice with a mate and in some cases just talking to people helps.

Also Empathy I think a lot of near miss fails are due to not showing it

Goonerdee · 25-04-2018 4:01pm

I get the feeling that if I have failed the AC it will be down to two things, poor performance in the last exercise (running out of time) and not approaching the last roleplay with an open mind.

PSNI Recruitment - Stage 2 - The Assessment Centre

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