Let's say something nice about Travellers

ballsdeep69 · 27-11-2017 09:19PM

They make very entertaining videos on YouTube

mikeysmith · 27-11-2017 09:36PM

i remember a traveller lad i played handball with growing up

he was standing next to me in the pub one night and asked for a pint

the owner said "i'm sorry i can't serve you"

shocking really whatever way you look at it

LadyMacBeth_ · 27-11-2017 09:58PM

A traveller boy once gave me a can of beer for a kiss

I actually haven't had any negative interactions with travellers.

tomwaterford · 27-11-2017 10:06PM

LadyMacBeth_ wrote: »

A traveller boy once gave me a can of beer for a kiss I actually haven't had any negative interactions with travellers.

Good kiss so I guess?

I sell hay to settled traveler over road from me and never any issue with getting paid.....but no other interactions really with him,but don't really interact woth my neighbours much anywayz

sabat · 27-11-2017 10:36PM

The traveller kids with strangely booming yet gravelly voices are just adorable, especially if they're belting out some old ballad while wearing a flat cap, braces and old boots.

27-11-2017 11:28PM

Travellers are more fun to talk to than end of the road

Is that something nice? ðŸ˜€

passatman86 · 28-11-2017 12:00AM

Regularly with travellers. Not going into detail but when sh1t hit the fan they look after their own no questions asked. If you cross them they stand together and being honest they have disagreements amongst themselves too. I have been treated like a king by them and if I annoyed them it can get loud. You have to understand travelling people have a built in defence mechanism due to discrimination pre judgment etc. So I dont blame some of them for being nervous or off with settled people. How would you feel going into a pub with company thinking "will I be refused a pint" the shame of it - or booking a hotel thinking "will I put on a settled persons voice to get a room"..its been said 1 million times theres bad in all walks of life and theres good travellers - yeah we know but I find that the irish just take it as acceptable to mock and stereotype everyone of them as bad robbers who mace grannies and granddads .. come on really do you honestly think its fair to say there all the same..decent Travellers themselves would tell you the people robbing from the elderly will get no luck and how it sickens them to hear it happening..its mad how many comments on here are ripping the sh1t out of travellers and people just hit like as most people tag along with lol or a pikey joke.. I have had some of the most interesting ,humble ,chats experiences with travellers and will in the future.. so does that make people on here look at me different now, will people not like my posts now or do I get a free pass cause im a settled person

Annasopra · 28-11-2017 01:09AM

Omackeral wrote: »

I started this thread and I started it with good intentions. I honestly feel awful for individual travellers who are just normal people going about their business and they meet a hard time. I've a major issue with that. But you need to stop bleating on about the UN and the Council of Europe as if they're know-alls on everything Traveller. If you asked 100 settled people what their general opinion of Travellers is, what do you think you'd hear back? I'd wager the majority would be negative comments. Is that nice? No. But why would it be the case? Is it that these people living in the same society as them are all wrong? Where does the bad rep come from?

So how come you have reversed your good intentions then?

28-11-2017 03:21AM

Travellers from Rathkeale were at the forefront of rhino poaching prevention by increasing the supply of rhino horns "obtained" from museums and private houses, hence flooding the market and bringing down the rhino horn price, saving many rhinos from certain death.

28-11-2017 09:02AM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

So how come you have reversed your good intentions then?

Because I'm not a no-matter-what martyr. You don't have to nail your colours to the mast and stick to them no matter what. Not everything is black and white. You can recognise shades of grey. What did I say that was so shocking? Let me spell it out for you again. I said, I think it's wrong to treat any individual like a piece of crap just because of where they're from or what clan they belong too. That's me. That's what I think. However, I think the bad reputation travellers in general have isn't for no reason. You still with me? So.... I won't treat anyone badly or differently unless they give me a reason to. That's me ok? Me. As in I.

Whereas, I can understand why a publican might have reservations about accepting a Traveller wedding. Him. As in not me. I can understand why he might feel that way. His business. His livelihood. Again, him.

Secondly, you're one of the worst debaters and posters I've ever seen on this site. You seriously never make any decent points. Why did you casually say settled people always dump their rubbish on traveller sites (in another thread) and then never respond to the replies asking you about it?

Blitzkrieger · 28-11-2017 11:34AM

I saw a stat recently that half of them don't live past 39.

There was one traveller kid, let's call him Bernard, in my primary school class for a while. Bernard was shy and quiet and generally kept to himself, so the rest of us generally ignored him and kept behaving like boys did at the time in an all boys primary school. Every break time was basically like Lord of the Flies.

Now, Bernard was a bit behind on his school work. Probably unsurprising given how often he probably moved schools. What was surprising was one day he pointed out a mistake in my maths homework. It was probably also surprising that he was in school at all since his family were only in the area for two months. I got the impression he wanted to be there and even at the time thought it was sad he couldn't be part of a community.

In general though, my experiences with travellers have been overwhelmingly negative. I like that old joke : "It's the 1% of travellers giving the other 99% a good name." I try to not pre judge anybody, but I can't help but be wary.

Kivaro · 28-11-2017 03:39PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Secondly, you're one of the worst debaters and posters I've ever seen on this site. You seriously never make any decent points.

The ignore list is perfect for these drive-by posters, who usually post with nonsensical one liners The particular poster referenced is on my ignore list, and you don't have to see their posts unless they are quoted.

steve-collins · 28-11-2017 06:55PM

They win most of our Olympic medals nowadays.

dd972 · 28-11-2017 07:44PM

mikeysmith wrote: »

i remember a traveller lad i played handball with growing up

he was standing next to me in the pub one night and asked for a pint

the owner said "i'm sorry i can't serve you"

shocking really whatever way you look at it

Reminds me of a time a barman was looking at me in a ultra-quizzical and uptight manner, the moment he heard me speak to ask for my pint it was like the Arctic to the Sahara in an instant, knew what it was but didn't let on.

Owryan · 28-11-2017 07:57PM

end of the road wrote: »

i'm not no .
doesn't change the facts that travelers are 1 of the 2 most discriminated against groups in europe though.

PMSL. Must've missed the ethnic cleansing of Rathkeale that put the cleansing of Kosovo in the shade.

end of the road · 28-11-2017 08:16PM

Owryan wrote: »

PMSL. Must've missed the ethnic cleansing of Rathkeale that put the cleansing of Kosovo in the shade.

i don't remember the people living there being rounded up or murdered by government forces. they sold up and moved on obviously as many people do from time to time.

Owryan · 28-11-2017 08:21PM

end of the road wrote: »

i don't remember the people living there being rounded up or murdered by government forces. they sold up and moved on obviously as many people do from time to time.

Seriously? it was only people, from an shared ethnic background all deciding to move at once? Was there a sale at the travel agents?

It might be of interest to read up on the subject. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Kosovo_War

https://msu.edu/course/pls/461/stein/kosovo.htm

retro:electro · 28-11-2017 08:24PM

end of the road wrote: »

i don't remember the people living there being rounded up or murdered by government forces. they sold up and moved on obviously as many people do from time to time.

Did you ever give us your contribution to the thread?

end of the road · 28-11-2017 08:34PM

Owryan wrote: »

Seriously? it was only people, from an shared ethnic background all deciding to move at once? Was there a sale at the travel agents?

It might be of interest to read up on the subject. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Kosovo_War

https://msu.edu/course/pls/461/stein/kosovo.htm

oh i remember that conflict very well. however, you said

Owryan wrote: »

PMSL. Must've missed the ethnic cleansing of Rathkeale that put the cleansing of Kosovo in the shade.

so, we can take from that post that you were suggesting that there was an ethnic cleansing of the population of Rathkeale, to which i responded.

end of the road wrote: »

i don't remember the people living there being rounded up or murdered by government forces. they sold up and moved on obviously as many people do from time to time.

so, we can take from my post that clearly there wasn't an ethnic cleansing of the population of Rathkeale, given that those who left it were not rounded up or murdered by government forces.

you will really need to do better next time. huge room for improvement.

anna080 wrote: »

Did you ever give us your contribution to the thread?

i did yes.

Gravelly · 28-11-2017 08:34PM

dd972 wrote: »

Reminds me of a time a barman was looking at me in a ultra-quizzical and uptight manner, the moment he heard me speak to ask for my pint it was like the Arctic to the Sahara in an instant, knew what it was but didn't let on.

Are we to take it from that, that you've a big cream cracker head on you?

JCX BXC · 28-11-2017 08:43PM

end of the road wrote: »

so, we can take from that post that you were suggesting that there was an ethnic cleansing of the population of Rathkeale, to which i responded.

How did you miss the sarcasm in that post.....like....how?

Hoboo · 28-11-2017 08:46PM

Ethnic cleansing of Rathkeale? If cockroaches can survive a nuclear bomb Im not holding out much hope.

end of the road · 28-11-2017 08:53PM

JCX BXC wrote: »

How did you miss the sarcasm in that post.....like....how?

i tend to find that ethnic cleansing is not something to be sarcastic about. some may do so, and that is their right. i won't be joining them however.

retro:electro · 28-11-2017 09:03PM

end of the road wrote: »

i did yes.

I must have missed it...
I see plenty of you nit-picking on others' posts and UN drivel- but I haven't heard your story. Come on EOTR.. share your positive traveller story with the class.

pilly · 28-11-2017 09:17PM

I find them very funny in a conversation. Went to a class with two of them and they always had me pmsl.

end of the road · 28-11-2017 09:19PM

anna080 wrote: »

I must have missed it...

you must have yes.

anna080 wrote: »

I see plenty of you nit-picking on others' posts

well, in a debate, people can and will be challenged from time to time. that is a given.

anna080 wrote: »

I see plenty of UN drivel

you will have to take that up with the UN. i can't help you there. i can only give you the information they provide on a given issue where relevant. you will be delighted to know that they do look at mountains of evidence before coming to a decisian, across all outlooks/sides and so on, so they don't make it up as they go along.

retro:electro · 28-11-2017 09:24PM

end of the road wrote: »

you must have yes.

well, in a debate, people can and will be challenged from time to time. that is a given.

anna080 wrote: »

I see plenty of UN drivel

you will have to take that up with the UN. i can't help you there. i can only give you the information they provide on a given issue where relevant. you will be delighted to know that they do look at mountains of evidence before coming to a decisian, across all outlooks/sides and so on, so they don't make it up as they go along.

So are you going to share your story?

end of the road · 28-11-2017 09:25PM

anna080 wrote: »

So are you going to share your story?

i already did. it's back in the thread somewhere.

PeterParker957 · 28-11-2017 09:37PM

anna080 wrote: »

end of the road wrote: »

you must have yes.

well, in a debate, people can and will be challenged from time to time. that is a given.

anna080 wrote: »

I see plenty of UN drivel

you will have to take that up with the UN. i can't help you there. i can only give you the information they provide on a given issue where relevant. you will be delighted to know that they do look at mountains of evidence before coming to a decisian, across all outlooks/sides and so on, so they don't make it up as they go along.

So are you going to share your story?

I'm starting to think a certain poster is actually some sort of AI experiment. Like Deep Blue, that chess computer.

pilly · 28-11-2017 09:39PM

And yet another thread destroyed. It's getting so annoying now.

Let's say something nice about Travellers

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