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Tesla Roadster 2.0

  • 17-11-2017 6:24am
    #1
    cros13
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭




    https://www.tesla.com/roadster/

    200kWh pack
    1000km range
    1.9 second 0-100km/h
    top speed in excess of 400km/h
    8.9 second 1/4 mile.
    10,000 Nm torque ( ! )
    4 seats
    2020 production
    Taking deposits today

    "These numbers sound unreal but they're not" says Musk

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  • #2
    Evd-Burner
    Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭Evd-Burner


    love to see some of the super cars go up against it ðŸ˜


  • #3
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Base price $200,000.

    Ever so slightly out of my price range but I'm sure it will take lots of sales from Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche and others.


  • #4
    thierry14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    8.9 second quarter mile

    Thats very very hard to believe

    That's a different world to todays Hypercars, even the electric ones like Rimac and Nio


  • #5
    thierry14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    Base price $200,000.

    Ever so slightly out of my price range but I'm sure it will take lots of sales from Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porche and others.

    It will kill them

    With those numbers it will blow the doors of there cars

    This thing is closer to Ferraris SF70H 2017 F1 car than there Ferrari LaFerrari hypercar

    Its mind blowing.

    Upcoming Hypercars like Mercedes Project one and Aston Martins/Red Bull am rb 001 designed by F1 designer Adrian Newey cant touch this Roadster


  • #6
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,745 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Want!

    Do they take a modest EV as a trade in? :p
    cros13 wrote: »
    1.9 second 0-100km/h

    To 60mph, so closer to 2.0s to 100km/h. That would still be breaking the fastest ever time by a production car. Done by the Porsche 918, which costs a couple of million. This car at only a fraction of the price, is a steal.


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  • #7
    aliveandkicking
    Registered Users Posts: 961 ✭✭✭aliveandkicking


    The specs on this car are so amazing I find it difficult to believe. If they achieve these specs in a volume production road legal vehicle it will be an absolutely incredible achievement.


  • #8
    thierry14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubDSY_1A8Ug


  • #9
    Standard Toaster
    Registered Users Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9JQAkcYak


  • #10
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I'm finding it a little hard to believe Tesla will be able to 'kill' Scania, Volvo, Lamborghini, Ferarri, Porsche, BMW, Audi, et al in the next 10 years while it's founder, CEO and Chief Architect will at the same time work on colonizing another planet.
    Meh.


  • #11
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    josip wrote: »
    I'm finding it a little hard to believe Tesla will be able to 'kill' Scania, Volvo, Lamborghini, Ferarri, BMW, Audi in the next 10 years while at the same time colonizing another planet.
    Meh.

    What does Tesla have to do with other planets?


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  • #12
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Musk is a horrible presenter, it is painful to watch him really :D
    thierry14 wrote: »
    8.9 second quarter mile

    Thats very very hard to believe

    That's a different world to todays Hypercars, even the electric ones like Rimac and Nio

    Veyron has tyre glued to the alloy, as the centrifugal forces are so huge that it does not stay on...

    I believe the performance figures of the Tesla add up - the equations with mass, drag, power etc. But quoted figures will be unobtainable in real world because of those hundreds of tiny details...


  • #13
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭josip


    grogi wrote: »
    What does Tesla have to do with other planets?

    Tx, I've now typed what I was thinking.:)


  • #14
    cros13
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭cros13


    grogi wrote: »
    I believe the performance figures of the Tesla add up - the equations with mass, drag, power etc. But quoted figures will be unobtainable in real world because of those hundreds of tiny details...

    Yup, it's at the theoretical traction limit.

    10,000NM of torque... f***ing hell.... that's seven times the torque of a Bugatti Veyron and 35 times the torque of my i3.

    Probably wheel torque... but still....goddamn...


  • #15
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Maybe he has borrowed a rocked engine from SpaceX?


  • #16
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,113 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Where's Clarkson? He should take it for a spin.


  • #17
    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    The Model S P100D in Ludicrous mode is already down to 2.38 seconds, the 2nd fastest production car ever made. So this is easily believable.


  • #18
    Ewan Hoosarmi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 465 ✭✭Ewan Hoosarmi


    Any indication of the weight of the thing? That's a lot of battery. Settling that into a fast bend could be exciting alright.

    Still, so much want!

    Oh, and keep Clarkson well away from it. Fuses would blow, and not in the car.


  • #19
    Dr Brown
    Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    I wonder how it gets a 600mph range ? Is it using new battery tech ?


  • #20
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 35,610 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    I wonder how it gets a 600mph range ? Is it using new battery tech ?

    Duracell


  • #21
    cros13
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭cros13


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    I wonder how it gets a 600mph range ? Is it using new battery tech ?

    Mostly just the normal progression of battery tech and the fact it takes the same or less power to move the car...
    An average of 5-10% a year increase in density.

    1st gen roadster pack 10 years ago had a 53 kWh pack crammed into a heavily adapted lotus chassis.
    With 12 years between the 1st gen roadster release and the 2nd you would expect between 95 and 166kWh purely due to the compounding march of the technology.

    A dedicated platform would naturally provide for a bigger pack without much in the way of compromise.
    Also the switch Tesla made with the Model 3 from 18650 cells to 2170s means an increase in density due to less wasted space in the cell & pack.
    And the new plate and fin cooling system used in the model 3 pack also increases usable volume.
    And the new roadster is carbon fiber not steel/aluminium.

    Some rumors about a new low-cobalt chemistry they've worked out too.


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  • #22
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    I wonder how it gets a 600mph range ? Is it using new battery tech ?

    The battery is twice the size of the Model S 100, which has an EPA range of 315 miles. I think the Roadster is smaller, so 600 miles should be easy to achieve


  • #23
    Orebro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Orebro


    Holy moly that is some spec sheet!


  • #24
    goz83
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭goz83


    Fantastic stuff. I really liked the new mx-5. Was very tempted to buy one but decided to go ev. The new roadster looks even tastier. Now.....gotta rob a bank.


  • #25
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭josip


    goz83 wrote: »
    Fantastic stuff. I really liked the new mx-5. Was very tempted to buy one but decided to go ev. The new roadster looks even tastier. Now.....gotta rob a bank.

    Use the Roadster as your getaway car


  • #26
    Sitec
    Registered Users Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    If Tesla put the figures to the ground just wow! It's actually a bit of a bargain considering the performance. Tyre's will be an issue, 10,000Nm!


  • #27
    Sabre Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    Elon has clarified what he meant when tweeting "0 to 100 km/h in 1.9 sec".

    Should clarify that this is the base model performance. There will be a special option package that takes it to the next level.


  • #28
    thierry14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    Elon has clarified what he meant when tweeting "0 to 100 km/h in 1.9 sec".

    Should clarify that this is the base model performance. There will be a special option package that takes it to the next level.

    Tesla forums speculating

    P model will have 1.7 to 100, sub 4 to 200kmh and low 8's quarter mile

    Its insane

    Fastest production cars can barely crack 0 - 200kmh in 6 seconds, holy trinity of P1,918,La Ferrari are all about 7secs 0-200kmh

    Only comparble acceleration numbers come from elite racing machines like F1/Le Man/Moto GP

    Even they cant touch the Tesla from a dig, maybe a modern day F1 car can match/beat it from 100kmh upwards in pure acceleration

    Roadster will have acceleration like below and cost €1.40 to do 100km on night rate electric :-)

    ICE is over

    https://youtu.be/9ap3XGB6PAIcc


  • #29
    Vronsky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭Vronsky


    The real question it will Tesla still be around come production time. Model 3, the core product, production has been way off its milestones. Its burning through its cash pile faster than this roadster, and it has further complicated things by adding another product, the semi truck.

    The last Tesla bond auction went well, but the bond has struggled on the secondary market. In this quarters results are poor its not hard to foresee Tesla having real difficulty in financing itself.


  • #30
    Goose81
    Registered Users Posts: 4,170 ✭✭✭Goose81


    thierry14 wrote: »
    It will kill them

    With those numbers it will blow the doors of there cars

    This thing is closer to Ferraris SF70H 2017 F1 car than there Ferrari LaFerrari hypercar

    Its mind blowing.

    Upcoming Hypercars like Mercedes Project one and Aston Martins/Red Bull am rb 001 designed by F1 designer Adrian Newey cant touch this Roadster

    It's won't even touch them, the thing looks like crap with an interior to match no doubt and if your buying a supercar you want attention and nothing gets attention like the noise off a supercar, that the whole point. If it doesn't make noise then that's most of the thrill gone.

    It's like saying a Chinese handbag is better than a french one, it may be but that's not going to change opinions

    I would like to see how if drives other than a straight line seeing as it's going to be mega heavy.

    No one on the road can drive any of them to their limit so the power figures while interesting/insane are pretty pointless in the real world.

    I'm more interested in the tech trickling down, like they will have to start limiting these when family man who can't drive at all can go and pick up a 60k car from the dealer that could see him crashing a few mins leaving the dealership.


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  • #31
    funnyname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Goose81 wrote: »

    I'm more interested in the tech trickling down, like they will have to start limiting these when family man who can't drive at all can go and pick up a 60k car from the dealer that could see him crashing a few mins leaving the dealership.

    You're some comedian


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