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Are we over the annual poppy thread?

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  • #1232
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    not yet wrote: »
    Ha Ha Ha, you gotta laugh. I can only assume you were so eager to catch me out you neglected to read the part where he said 9 years not 20 hours..

    I did not have to look back at years of your posts to catch you out, I just went back a few pages to catch you out.


  • #1233
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    maryishere wrote: »
    I did not have to look back at years of your posts to catch you out, I just went back a few pages to catch you out.

    OK you win..


  • #1234
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    From reddit....but sums up this perfectly


  • #1235
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    Of remembering what? The hundreds of thousands of Irish people who fought in the 2 world wars, for example? Over many decades, none of them has suggested anything other than the Poppy, as far as I know.

    You have your Easter Lily to remember Sean Russell and his Republican friends, you have every right to wear that if that is your choice..

    We fought for many around the world. And many others fought in the WW's (that is why they are called World Wars.)

    I wonder did S Russell know as much as the RBL knew about Hitler when they went for their céile's?
    I am not sure I blame republicans of the time for choosing which of the genocidal empire builders to take advantage of. All's fair in love and war.


  • #1236
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    From reddit....but sums up this perfectly

    I made the point earlier. The UK's sickness is being channeled through this poppy nonsense. It's getting exponentially more strident and more ridiculous as Britain's internal implosion gets worse.


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  • #1237
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,020 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    maryishere wrote: »
    Of remembering what? The hundreds of thousands of Irish people who fought in the 2 world wars, for example? Over many decades, none of them has suggested anything other than the Poppy, as far as I know.

    You have your Easter Lily to remember Sean Russell and his Republican friends, you have every right to wear that if that is your choice..

    eh remember the boys from the island forced to fight for the crown and be cannon fodder, but ignore those who came to the island with their guns killing people looking for their civil rights

    ******



  • #1238
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I am not sure I blame republicans of the time

    Thats the problem with Republicans; even when every other English speaking country in the world could see Hitler was evil and was at war with him, Irish extremist Republicans invite the Nazis to Ireland.


  • #1239
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    Thats the problem with Republicans; even when every other English speaking country in the world could see Hitler was evil and was at war with him, Irish extremist Republicans invite the Nazis to Ireland.

    What were the RBL doing over meeting them for?
    Recent memory saw what both sides had done in WW1, sarcrificed millions.
    There wasn't much love around for either Britain or Germany amongst republicans anywhere I would imagine.

    Use them to your advantage was the order of the day.


  • #1240
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    What were the RBL doing over meeting them for?
    The British were very much at war with Nazi Germany 1939 -45.
    Someone else informed you earlier the Rbl went to Germany in 1935 invited by the some German association to visit war graves.


  • #1241
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    There wasn't much love around for either Britain or Germany amongst republicans anywhere I would imagine.
    Why did Sean Russell die on a U boat returning from Germany?


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  • #1242
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    The British were very much at war with Nazi Germany 1939 -45.
    Someone else informed you earlier the Rbl went to Germany in 1935 invited by the some German association to visit war graves.

    Was that when Britain was appeasing them and turning a blind eye to what Germany was doing?

    War was inevitable long before 39 too. You can't rewrite the facts - well you can, but nobody will pay a blind bit of notice.


  • #1243
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Was that Swiss player aiming at the poppy on his arm??? Fe%ker! :)


  • #1244
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    Why did Sean Russell die on a U boat returning from Germany?

    Getting a lift obviously.


  • #1245
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    maryishere wrote: »
    Why did Sean Russell die on a U boat returning from Germany?

    Why did Churchill murder 10000s of innocent People in India..

    I win


  • #1246
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Was that when Britain was appeasing them and turning a blind eye to what Germany was doing?
    Britain suffered such appalling losses in WW1 - as did many other countries - it did not want to enter another world war. You cannot talk about "turning a blind eye to what Germany was doing".


  • #1247
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    Britain suffered such appalling losses in WW1 - as did many other countries - it did not want to enter another world war. You cannot talk about "turning a blind eye to what Germany was doing".

    They did appease them and it led directly to war after years of British nobility flirting with the Naziz and turning a blind eye to anti-semiticism.

    It's all there in the 'facts'.

    And BTW, Britain 'gambled' in WW1 as did Germany and between them lost milions of lives, for nothing.


  • #1248
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    and turning a blind eye to anti-semiticism.

    They let in thousands of Jewish refugees and then declared war on Germany.

    DeValera let in no Jewish refugees and did not declare war on Germany. DeValera was the only leader in the world to convey condolences on the death of Hitler.

    There is the difference.

    Many in the UK remember those who fought anti-semitism. Here the extremists attack you if you remember those who fought facism and Nazism.


  • #1249
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    They let in thousands of Jewish refugees and then declared war on Germany.

    DeValera let in no Jewish refugees and did not declare war on Germany. DeValera was the only leader in the world to convey condolences on the death of Hitler.

    There is the difference.

    We had no beef with Germany and as neutrals don't declare war on anybody.


  • #1250
    davycc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,013 ✭✭✭davycc


    maryishere wrote: »
    The British were very much at war with Nazi Germany 1939 -45.
    Someone else informed you earlier the Rbl went to Germany in 1935 invited by the some German association to visit war graves.

    The rbl went on a tour of the extermination camps in 1935 with their Nazi idol's ...

    No doubt copy and paste Mary will ignore the facts and come up with some more bs about Sean Russell


  • #1251
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    maryishere wrote: »
    They let in thousands of Jewish refugees and then declared war on Germany.

    DeValera let in no Jewish refugees and did not declare war on Germany. DeValera was the only leader in the world to convey condolences on the death of Hitler.

    There is the difference.

    Many in the UK remember those who fought anti-semitism. Here the extremists attack you if you remember those who fought facism and Nazism.

    I'll see your DeValera and raise you Oliver Cromwell..


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  • #1252
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    We had no beef with Germany
    We should have had with the Nazi regime considering what they done to Europe, the Jews etc.


  • #1253
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,068 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    davycc wrote: »
    The rbl went on a tour of the extermination camps in 1935 with their Nazi idol's ...

    Link please for this?


  • #1254
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Just on a side note.

    Never has the phrase: Shove it up your Swiss been so appropriate..:D


  • #1255
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    davycc wrote: »
    The rbl went on a tour of the extermination camps in 1935 with their Nazi idol's ...
    Dachau was not an extermination camp in 1935. And the Nazi were not their idols.


  • #1256
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    maryishere wrote: »
    Of remembering what? The hundreds of thousands of Irish people who fought in the 2 world wars, for example? Over many decades, none of them has suggested anything other than the Poppy, as far as I know.

    You have your Easter Lily to remember Sean Russell and his Republican friends, you have every right to wear that if that is your choice..

    So if its ‘your Easter Lily’, is it ‘my poppy’ for you mary? Any chance of that proof btw re your claims about Brendan Rodgers and James McClean, or do i have to call you out for telling porky pies?


  • #1257
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    They let in thousands of Jewish refugees and then declared war on Germany.

    DeValera let in no Jewish refugees and did not declare war on Germany. DeValera was the only leader in the world to convey condolences on the death of Hitler.

    There is the difference.

    Many in the UK remember those who fought anti-semitism. Here the extremists attack you if you remember those who fought facism and Nazism.

    Mary, the nonsense history has been properly written long ago.
    The tarnish/gloss of Rule Brittania has been removed.
    They assume that Jewish refugees were welcomed, at least in the 1930s, with a tolerance that has traditionally been seen as a beacon of Britishness. They're shocked to discover that rabid intolerance - among both press and government - has a strong British pedigree. As Tony Kushner, professor of history at the University of Southampton, says, "The Daily Mail has been an anti-alien newspaper since the 1900s. There's great continuity."
    Yet Holocaust refugees and survivors have been sanctified and idealised after the event, on occasion by the very same publications that at the time demonised them and sought to impugn their authenticity. In their book Refugees In An Age Of Genocide, Kushner and Katharine Knox observe that, "Of all the groups in the 20th century, refugees from Nazism are now widely and popularly perceived as 'genuine', but at the time German, Austrian and Czechoslovakian Jews were treated with ambivalence and outright hostility as well as sympathy."

    htt
    ps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jun/08/immigration.immigrationandpublicservices


  • #1258
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Any chance of that proof btw re your claims about Brendan Rodgers and James McClean, or do i have to call you out for telling porky pies?
    Dunno what you are on about, I gave links for everything.


  • #1259
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    maryishere wrote: »
    We should have had with the Nazi regime considering what they done to Europe, the Jews etc.

    Same could be said about the Empire and the millions it murdered..


  • #1260
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    not yet wrote: »
    Same could be said about the Empire and the millions it murdered..

    We 'had' them and now they want us to wear it's poppy.


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  • #1261
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    ps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jun/08/immigration.immigrationandpublicservices

    hostility as well as sympathy? - same as all refugees everywhere, especially as the dark days of the great depression were still raw. But at least Britain did let in many thousands of refugees, not like Ireland.


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