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Are we over the annual poppy thread?

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  • #692
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,068 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    It does, and fair enough. It's a pity those that refuse to wear it can be attacked in front of 10's of thousands of people, and for it to be ignored. What were the soldiers fighting for again - freedom was it?

    Well that happened in the UK. Not Ireland and a few idiots on either side should not distract from that point.


  • #693
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,068 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Racism seems to go hand in hand with this poppy stuff.

    Oh christ, here we go.... down the rabbit hole. Shinnerbots we salute you.


  • #694
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Maybe needs a bit of explaining because quoted out of context it can be made to seem I was saying something else.

    The racist remark was made in relation to the post about a bottle thrown at a coloured player. They receive racist taunting in football grounds.

    The point was that the same type of people (jingoistic, empire mourning, Britain First types) are taunting McClean over the poppy. Not that they are being racist towards him.
    Hope that clears it up.


  • #695
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,032 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Oh I think people will judge for themselves on that one tbh.

    You don't think, you overthink and attempt to shoehorn you shinner/Anti British everything agenda in for any incident involving McClean. He was abused for a nasty foul nothing more.


  • #696
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You don't think, you overthink and attempt to shoehorn you shinner/Anti British everything agenda in for any incident involving McClean. He was abused for a nasty foul nothing more.

    Now comes the usual 'anti British-shinner' nonsense. We know the argument is on thin ice when that starts. That is two of you now.

    From a Huddersfield fan who was at the match:
    14 hours ago
    25WHITESTONE
    He was always going to be singled out for his poppy comments, and as soon as he came on the noise started. But, that was disgusting behaviour from the idiots who threw objects at him and absolutely unforgivable. His 'tackle' was outrageous and a braver ref would have sent him off for that.

    Why would I not believe what McClean had to say himself?
    He has been the honest one in all of this, stood up to the poppy bullies and taken woeful abuse over the years for it.

    I should disbelieve him just because you say?


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  • #697
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    A poor (ok not that poor) X factor judge from the USA now getting abuse for not abiding to compulsory poppy wear.


  • #698
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Maybe needs a bit of explaining because quoted out of context it can be made to seem I was saying something else.

    The racist remark was made in relation to the post about a bottle thrown at a coloured player. They receive racist taunting in football grounds.

    The point was that the same type of people (jingoistic, empire mourning, Britain First types) are taunting McClean over the poppy. Not that they are being racist towards him.
    Hope that clears it up.

    what's a "coloured" player?


  • #699
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    what's a "coloured" player?

    Apologies. 'Person of colour'


  • #700
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Apologies. 'Person of colour'

    have youever watched, or even attended a football match?

    Opposing players get abused regularly, what made this different was the bottle being thrown.

    It is a gig leap to start calling this racist, just because Sterling is black. It could quite easily have been directed at a white player.

    James McClean hacked down a black player before getting abuse from the crowd (and bizarrely, deciding to square up to them). Was this racist from James McClean?


  • #701
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    have youever watched, or even attended a football match?

    Opposing players get abused regularly, what made this different was the bottle being thrown.

    It is a gig leap to start calling this racist, just because Sterling is black. It could quite easily have been directed at a white player.

    James McClean hacked down a black player before getting abuse from the crowd (and bizarrely, deciding to square up to them). Was this racist from James McClean?

    Yes, Sterling is just another high profile player who happens to have suffered from severe racist abuse...but not this time...tis just football.


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  • #702
    [Deleted User]
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Yes, Sterling is just another high profile player who happens to have suffered from severe racist abuse...but not this time...tis just football.

    that's pretty much it, yes. He received some disgusting racist abuse on social media, but I am not aware of him having received any inside an English football ground.

    it is possible to abuse someone who just happens to be black and for it not to be racist. Just as it is possible for James McClean to get abuse and it have nothing to do with poppies, politics or the fact he is Irish.


  • #703
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Aegir wrote: »
    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    So your claim is that every opposing player gets pelted with objects when they make a tackle?
    Huddersfield would be out of the league if that was remotely true.

    lets get this right.

    James McClean made a lunge that could have broken a players leg. He got abuse from the crowd for it (as would happen in every stadium in every country in the world), decides to square up to the crowd and get things thrown at him.

    and it is all to do with Poppies and racism?
    Mcclean is a scumbag with a deep bitter hatred, it leaks out of his every pore. He likes to make his politics well known and yet plenty of other sportsmen on the island of Ireland certainly don't, who come from Unionist backgrounds and they don't behave like him.


  • #704
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    that's pretty much it, yes. He received some disgusting racist abuse on social media, but I am not aware of him having received any inside an English football ground.

    it is possible to abuse someone who just happens to be black and for it not to be racist. Just as it is possible for James McClean to get abuse and it have nothing to do with poppies, politics or the fact he is Irish.

    Yep, the player saying it was poppy related, fans calling it out as disgraceful but you who wasn't there says it didn't happen.
    Fair enough.


  • #705
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,833 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Mcclean is a scumbag with a deep bitter hatred, it leaks out of his every pore..

    "deep bitter hatred" you say...


  • #706
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Mcclean is a scumbag with a deep bitter hatred, it leaks out of his every pore. He likes to make his politics well known and yet plenty of other sportsmen on the island of Ireland certainly don't, who come from Unionist backgrounds and they don't behave like him.

    He's a very charitable man, with both his time and money.


  • #707
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Odhinn wrote: »
    "deep bitter hatred" you say...

    I wouldn't pass much remarks. This is what happens when you question the poppy brigade or simply stand up for yourself.
    Dilution, dismissal and common abuse.


  • #708
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    riffmongous wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Mcclean is a scumbag with a deep bitter hatred, it leaks out of his every pore. He likes to make his politics well known and yet plenty of other sportsmen on the island of Ireland certainly don't, who come from Unionist backgrounds and they don't behave like him.

    He's a very charitable man, with both his time and money.
    He's a twat from what I have seen of him, ordinary player too. No idea what the NI players in WBA think of his carry on, usually around this time of year.


  • #709
    [Deleted User]
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Yep, the player saying it was poppy related,

    when was that then?


  • #710
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,833 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    He's a twat from what I have seen of him, ordinary player too. No idea what the NI players in WBA think of his carry on, usually around this time of year.

    And bitter. Don't forget bitter.


  • #711
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    when was that then?

    McClean's statement.


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  • #712
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Odhinn wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    He's a twat from what I have seen of him, ordinary player too. No idea what the NI players in WBA think of his carry on, usually around this time of year.

    And bitter.  Don't forget bitter.
    We know he is bitter.


  • #713
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    He's a twat from what I have seen of him, ordinary player too. No idea what the NI players in WBA think of his carry on, usually around this time of year.

    You want people to respect your right to wear a poppy yet at the same time come out with this unsubstantiated garbage about McClean. What do NI players think??? McClean’s from NI isn’t he unless you subscribe to the old style ‘I don’t want any of them about the place’ type Unionism?


  • #714
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Deleted User wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    He's a twat from what I have seen of him, ordinary player too. No idea what the NI players in WBA think of his carry on, usually around this time of year.

    You want people to respect your right to wear a poppy yet at the same time come out with this unsubstantiated garbage about McClean. What do NI players think??? McClean’s from NI isn’t he unless you subscribe to the old style ‘I don’t want any of them about the place’ type Unionism?
    Nothing unsubstantiated about it, I said I didn't know how his team mates thought of his behaviour. Certainly not one of reconciliation.


  • #715
    [Deleted User]
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    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Nothing unsubstantiated about it

    Links and proof please....
    Certainly not one of reconciliation.

    Ah, so you don't respect his stance not to wear a poppy then??


  • #716
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,870 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I wouldn't pass much remarks. This is what happens when you question the poppy brigade or simply stand up for yourself.
    Dilution, dismissal and common abuse.

    TBh that’s sounds like the reaction of the usual mob on here whenever anyone dares start a threat critical of SF, or anything else “republican”.


  • #717
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Mcclean is a scumbag with a deep bitter hatred, it leaks out of his every pore. He likes to make his politics well known and yet plenty of other sportsmen on the island of Ireland certainly don't, who come from Unionist backgrounds and they don't behave like him.

    So You think McClean is a scumbag based on his political view. I'm sure you realise he was born and reared in Derry at a time when the British army were shooting his fellow countrymen. The same Army that murdered a family member on Bloody Sunday.

    Let's get this straight...he has been abused for a couple of years now purely based on his refusal to wear a bloodstained symbol of imperialism..


  • #718
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    not yet wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Mcclean is a scumbag with a deep bitter hatred, it leaks out of his every pore. He likes to make his politics well known and yet plenty of other sportsmen on the island of Ireland certainly don't, who come from Unionist backgrounds and they don't behave like him.

    So You think McClean is a scumbag based on his political view. I'm sure you realise he was born and reared in Derry at a time when the British army were shooting his fellow countrymen. The same Army that murdered a family member on Bloody Sunday.

    Let's get this straight...he has been abused for a couple of years now purely based on his refusal to wear a bloodstained symbol of imperialism..
    His behaviour and attitude is. He can do what he likes but when I see horrific tackles from him constantly I don't have to like it.


  • #719
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    His behaviour and attitude is. He can do what he likes but when I see horrific tackles from him constantly I don't have to like it.

    I totally agree on the tackle point, but you alluded to his back round being the reason he is a scumbag. Do you agree he has taken abuse purely on his refusal to wear a poppy in the past..


  • #720
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Nothing unsubstantiated about it, I said I didn't know how his team mates thought of his behaviour. Certainly not one of reconciliation.

    Maybe Gareth McCauley or Jonny Evans will wear a lily as part of the reconciliation project.or maybe just maybe the Irish fa will stop playing god save the queen and forcing players to wear poppies.


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  • #721
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    munsterlegend wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Nothing unsubstantiated about it, I said I didn't know how his team mates thought of his behaviour. Certainly not one of reconciliation.

    Maybe Gareth McCauley or Jonny Evans will wear a lily as part of the reconciliation project.or maybe just maybe the Irish fa will stop playing god save the queen and forcing players to wear poppies.
    Why should they? Mcclean has his beliefs, at least he is honest about his politics. The likes of Evans and McCauley keep it to themselves.


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