Are we over the annual poppy thread?

ohnonotgmail · 02-11-2017 12:12PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

'Sectarian'????

Do you even know the meaning of the word? :rolleyes:

i'm pretty sure i do. You seem to find it all terribly upsetting. I'm just surprised that you would remain in such an environment.

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:14PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm pretty sure i do. You seem to find it all terribly upsetting. I'm just surprised that you would remain in such an environment.

So rather than voice an objection I should just slink away with my tail between my legs like a good little subordinate?

You are not doing yourself any favours here. :rolleyes:

ohnonotgmail · 02-11-2017 12:15PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Isn't it in Belfast now?

the picture is of either windsor castle or the tower of london. Or have i misidentified the location?

ohnonotgmail · 02-11-2017 12:16PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So rather than voice an objection I should just slink away with my tail between my legs like a good little subordinate?

You are not doing yourself any favours here. :rolleyes:

you think your offence gives you the right to dictate to others.

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:18PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the picture is of either windsor castle or the tower of london. Or have i misidentified the location?

You dismissed the point because it happened in England.

It is now happening in Ireland, in a city still trying to get justice for what this army did.

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:19PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you think your offence gives you the right to dictate to others.

Asking you to be sensitive to the brutalities visited by this army is not dictating anything.

JupiterKid · 02-11-2017 12:24PM

Ah, I fully expected this thread to bring out the rabid republicans from the woodwork. Yes, the poppy may be divisive and offensive to some, but that was never its original intention. It's not the Orangeman's sash.

Quite a few Irish in the Republic now wear the poppy to commemorate relatives lost in the World Wars. I suppose they are all complete traitors?

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:29PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Ah, I fully expected this thread to bring out the rabid republicans from the woodwork. Yes, the poppy may be divisive and offensive to some, but that was never its original intention. It's not the Orangeman's sash.

Quite a few Irish in the Republic now wear the poppy to commemorate relatives lost in the World Wars. I suppose they are all complete traitors?

This 'rabid republican' has already addressed respectful remembrance.
What seems to be lacking in this debate is an acceptance that the wearing of the poppy is becoming more and more problematic.
If the RBL have to continuously address the problems you would think our Irish brethren would too.

02-11-2017 12:30PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the picture is of either windsor castle or the tower of london. Or have i misidentified the location?

That picture showed the "Blood swept lands and seas of red" at the tower of London

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Swept_Lands_and_Seas_of_Red

ohnonotgmail · 02-11-2017 12:31PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You dismissed the point because it happened in England.

It is now happening in Ireland, in a city still trying to get justice for what this army did.

well yes, i did. this isnt england. what the english do with their poppies has no relation to what i do with mine.

ohnonotgmail · 02-11-2017 12:32PM

Aegir wrote: »

That picture showed the "Blood swept lands and seas of red" at the tower of London

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Swept_Lands_and_Seas_of_Red

like i said already what the english decide to do does not inform anything that i do.

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:34PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well yes, i did. this isnt england. what the english do with their poppies has no relation to what i do with mine.

So would you have a problem with it in a city like Belfast...or should they move too?

Timberrrrrrrr · 02-11-2017 12:35PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Asking you to be sensitive to the brutalities visited by this army is not dictating anything.

Would you think it ok for a republican to walk around Omagh wearing an Easter Lily?

ohnonotgmail · 02-11-2017 12:36PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So would you have a problem with it in a city like Belfast...or should they move too?

Its not my country. Its not for me to say what they can and cannot do. Though if they did i'm sure your brethren would be out in force shouting tiocfaidh ar la.

Timberrrrrrrr · 02-11-2017 12:38PM

Aegir wrote: »

That picture showed the "Blood swept lands and seas of red" at the tower of London

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Swept_Lands_and_Seas_of_Red

And the title is from.

The work's title was taken from the first line of a poem by an unknown World War I soldier.

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:39PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Would you think it ok for a republican to walk around Omagh wearing an Easter Lily?

Absolutely not, if he/she is doing it to be provocative.
I don't and have never worn any outward expression of my remembrance. Personally, I don't need the fact I am remembering to be seen by others. That is a bit crass imo.
My grandfather's brother fought in WW1 (he was one of Redmond's responders).
While I regret the fact he died I still think he was completely wrong and would never uncritically honour his decision.

02-11-2017 12:41PM

Northern Ireland are looking to put poppies on their player's shirts in their next game. What a way to alienate a large part of your potential fan base.

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:41PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Its not my country. Its not for me to say what they can and cannot do. Though if they did i'm sure your brethren would be out in force shouting tiocfaidh ar la.

Nothing like a bit of copping out followed by some invective.

ohnonotgmail · 02-11-2017 12:43PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Nothing like a bit of copping out followed by some invective.

not a copout at all. what another country decides to do to honour their dead is entirely up to them. Of course you are entitled to give your opinion on what they do and they are equally entitled to ignore that opinion.

Timberrrrrrrr · 02-11-2017 12:44PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Absolutely not, if he/she is doing it to be provocative.
I don't and have never worn any outward expression of my remembrance. Personally, I don't need the fact I am remembering to be seen by others. That is a bit crass imo.
My grandfather's brother fought in WW1 (he was one of Redmond's responders).
While I regret the fact he died I still think he was completely wrong and would never uncritically honour his decision.

Ironically it was because if men like him that you have the feeedom today to be able to voice your opinion.

Odhinn · 02-11-2017 12:48PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Ironically it was because if men like him that you have the feeedom today to be able to voice your opinion.

How?

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:49PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

not a copout at all. what another country decides to do to honour their dead is entirely up to them. Of course you are entitled to give your opinion on what they do and they are equally entitled to ignore that opinion.

Any chance you would give your 'opinion' of it?

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:50PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Ironically it was because if men like him that you have the feeedom today to be able to voice your opinion.

We'd all be speaking the German if it wasn't for his pointless blood sacrifice?

Righty oh. :rolleyes:

WesternZulu · 02-11-2017 12:50PM

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Northern Ireland are looking to put poppies on their player's shirts in their next game. What a way to alienate a large part of your potential fan base.

Well they have GSTQ as their national anthem so they've already alienated a large part of their fan base as it is.

dr.fuzzenstein · 02-11-2017 12:51PM

Sorry, I haven't chosen a side yet.
As far as I see I can be a Unionist bastard west Brit self hating (if I was Irish) union jack waving queen arse kisser or a knuckeldragging bogger fenian bastard with my head up my arse winging something about "800 years I have been PERSONALLY abused by the Brits!".
Is there an in between option? I see the usual Nazi sh*te has been diarrhead already.
Is there still debate going on or are we already at the "throwing insults with our fingers in our ears" stage?
These threads are always so entertaining.

Tom Mann Centuria · 02-11-2017 12:53PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Sorry, I haven't chosen a side yet.
As far as I see I can be a Unionist bastard west Brit self hating (if I was Irish) union jack waving queen arse kisser or a knuckeldragging bogger fenian bastard with my head up my arse winging something about "800 years I have been PERSONALLY abused by the Brits!".
Is there an in between option? I see the usual Nazi sh*te has been diarrhead already.
Is there still debate going on or are we already at the "throwing insults with our fingers in our ears" stage?
These threads are always so entertaining.

And long lasting.

02-11-2017 12:53PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Ironically it was because if men like him that you have the feeedom today to be able to voice your opinion.

What lamentably ignorant utter rubbish. Really extraordinary that you could think the largest empire in world history was fighting in WWI for the freedom of small nations. Such delusion, such abject conceit about what you country has been doing for the past number of centuries. You all firmly deserve the almighty kick up the arse Brexit is going to give you.

FrancieBrady · 02-11-2017 12:54PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Sorry, I haven't chosen a side yet.
As far as I see I can be a Unionist bastard west Brit self hating (if I was Irish) union jack waving queen arse kisser or a knuckeldragging bogger fenian bastard with my head up my arse winging something about "800 years I have been PERSONALLY abused by the Brits!".
Is there an in between option? I see the usual Nazi sh*te has been diarrhead already.
Is there still debate going on or are we already at the "throwing insults with our fingers in our ears" stage?
These threads are always so entertaining.

'Insults', you say?

ohnonotgmail · 02-11-2017 12:59PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Any chance you would give your 'opinion' of it?

see, i have no idea why you put opinion in quotes. seems like a crass attempt at a veiled insult. to be expected i suppose.

my opinion is that it would be too gaudy for my tastes though i can see why they did it at the tower of london in 2014 for the centenary. I prefer discreet myself. like this.

Odhinn · 02-11-2017 01:00PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We'd all be speaking the German if it wasn't for his pointless blood sacrifice?

Righty oh. :rolleyes:

Yep. The language of Hegel, Heidegger, Wittgenstein. The horror.

Are we over the annual poppy thread?

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