The One About Optimum Strategies for Co-Op Content...

Generic Dreadhead · 29-09-2017 10:19am

So Calus has been 2 manned.
Some very handy idea/tips and stuff around Voidlock Devour use, Warcliff Coil use and a Team Teleport "cheese"
I actually watched the 3 man kill 1st, and I think there's value in watching both, especially as what happens in the shadow realm changes between vids

Kimbot · 02-10-2017 11:16am

Just to follow up on the Grenades on the teleport section, when your in the teleport section/realm:

I tested out a couple of ways and the only one that worked was that if you look on the ground on front of him you will see a couple of tiles slighted ramped up towards the floaty head. Well dont nade the middle one, instead go either side of that and it will take out a few of the skulls. Another option JCD noted was to use risk runner and arc nade yourself to get the chain damage. Both work very well

nevelator · 02-10-2017 3:35pm

From Reddit. Different version of Leviathan underbelly map; to forage for the drops that we already should have just got!

Generic Dreadhead · 02-10-2017 3:39pm

Came here for pro strats.... left with Salt

SolvableKnave · 02-10-2017 3:59pm

After running each Raid Challenge twice, and beating Calus once, I can say with absolute certainty that the #1 pro strat is DON'T DIE.

Generic Dreadhead · 02-10-2017 4:04pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

After running each Raid Challenge twice, and beating Calus once, I can say with absolute certainty that the #1 pro strat is DON'T DIE.

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Kimbot · 02-10-2017 4:06pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

After running each Raid Challenge twice, and beating Calus once, I can say with absolute certainty that the #1 pro strat is DON'T RAID.

FYP :pac:

Generic Dreadhead · 02-10-2017 5:21pm

Calus DPS stuff

Mitch Connor · 03-10-2017 10:40am

Seeing talk of double autos.

I would like to try that out on my titan but I am generally in Team Suck - and I reckon I 100% need a scout rifle for dealing with those Psions. They are enough of a problem as is.

Kimbot · 03-10-2017 10:43am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Seeing talk of double autos.

I would like to try that out on my titan but I am generally in Team Suck - and I reckon I 100% need a scout rifle for dealing with those Psions. They are enough of a problem as is.

I use the scathelock (sp) on the psions and they drop handy enough once you catch them as they spawn.

Mitch Connor · 03-10-2017 10:52am

jonnycivic wrote: »

I use the scathelock (sp) on the psions and they drop handy enough once you catch them as they spawn.

close one fine - hitting the cross map one I'd be more concerned about (talking about the normal psions, not the projection ones).

Find you have to go cross map on round 3 and 4 as they go into cover on left and right making 'your' one very hard to deal with.

I'm not saying it can't be done with an auto - but i'd worry about it adding an element of risk to my role in the raid that I would prefer to mitigate as much as possible.

sniper_samurai · 03-10-2017 11:03am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Seeing talk of double autos.

I would like to try that out on my titan but I am generally in Team Suck - and I reckon I 100% need a scout rifle for dealing with those Psions. They are enough of a problem as is.

I was using Origin Story and Uriels Gift with the Actium War Rig as my exotic. Worked very well with the War Rig returning 10% of the mag every 2 seconds. Was on team teleport.

Mitch Connor · 03-10-2017 11:14am

sniper_samurai wrote: »

I was using Origin Story and Uriels Gift with the Actium War Rig as my exotic. Worked very well with the War Rig returning 10% of the mag every 2 seconds. Was on team teleport.

indeed - my impression is it is far more suited to team teleport, or even the player who takes the central position on team suck - so that their psion is always in front.

Maybe an auto will do the job with no issues on the cross map psion (it isn't that far) but I'd be apprehensive about ruining a run on the experiment.

Kimbot · 03-10-2017 11:16am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

indeed - my impression is it is far more suited to team teleport, or even the player who takes the central position on team suck - so that their psion is always in front.

Maybe an auto will do the job with no issues on the cross map psion (it isn't that far) but I'd be apprehensive about ruining a run on the experiment.

Ah man its no issue to get the cross ones, i do be in the middle and can pop the middle lad then turn on the others if needed.

SolvableKnave · 03-10-2017 1:14pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Calus DPS stuff

A good AR for Primary.
Sweet Bizzness or Coldheart for Energy.
Raid Rocket for Power.

Check. Check. Check.

OptimusTractor · 03-10-2017 2:11pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

A good AR for Primary.
Sweet Bizzness or Coldheart for Energy.
Raid Rocket for Power.

Check. Check. Check.

Sweet business is a kinetic weapon.

SolvableKnave · 03-10-2017 2:12pm

OptimusTractor wrote: »

Sweet business is a kinetic weapon.

Your right. Don't know why I thought it was Solar.

Generic Dreadhead · 05-10-2017 10:42am

Clever Clever creature

Generic Dreadhead · 06-10-2017 11:07am

Doubt there will be a whole pile of changes between Normal and Hard Mode tbh
Bit disapointing really, but I haven't been a big fan of this Raid perosnally anyway

We do not expect everyone to be successful in completing this activity. Mechanical changes to the encounters are minimal, but they are there. The Prestige Raid is about mastering a more punishing sandbox. Our goal is not to provide a boon to your character progression, but there are unique rewards to help you shine. Consider this your invitation to prove to the world that you are among the very best of the Raiders who overlook the City.

Mitch Connor · 06-10-2017 11:48am

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Doubt there will be a whole pile of changes between Normal and Hard Mode tbh
Bit disapointing really, but I haven't been a big fan of this Raid perosnally anyway

Considering the raid design, disappointing it doesn't look like there will be new encounters in the hard mode. Doubly disappointing that beyond cosmetic things the hardmode doesn't look like it will offer a reason to do it over the very beatable normal mode.

Generic Dreadhead · 06-10-2017 11:51am

It's been by far and away the worst of all 5 Raids imho. But I've went down that rathole enough already

OptimusTractor · 06-10-2017 12:53pm

You'd think the shadow realm teleport would be random like Atheon checkpoint.

Generic Dreadhead · 09-10-2017 2:05pm

Since Petking asked for videos

The order of the 1st 3 encounters changes weekly.

DO NOT PUNCH THE 4x PSIONS AT THE CALUS ENCOUNTER LIKE HE DOES IN HIS CALUS VIDEO

Generic Dreadhead · 10-10-2017 6:22pm

Some pro tips for Calus

tl;dr: There are two DPS timers, a per plate timer (started by jumping on a plate) and an overall timer (started once Calus' shield pops). Taking your time to start DPS causes the overall DPS timer to cut into your 4th plate timer. So start on blades or dogs, and head to it as soon as you're back in the throne room.

Ran into this a lot last night while helping Calus runs, especially in groups trying to one phase. Lots of teams were having really short timers on the 4th plate, and the cause was always the same: They started DPS from Sun or Chalice, and took their sweet time getting ammo / waiting for everyone to group up before starting the DPS phase.

The issue here is there are two timers during the DPS phase:
- A per plate timer, activated by jumping on a plate.
- An overall DPS phase timer, activated after popping Calus' shield.

Taking too long either due to scrounging ammo before hopping up on a plate, or having Shadow team run aaaalllll the way up to Chalice or Sun from the back of the room where they spawn in, wastes valuable time and will cause the overall DPS timer to cut into your 4th plates timer.
So start on Dogs or Blades for ease of access, book it straight to the plate as a Shadow Team member, and rotate from there.
A couple other misconceptions during the DPS phase:
Stagger/Transition animations do not cause Calus to go immune. Active plates are the only thing that matters. If you're getting "Immune" early it's because someone activated the plate early/jumped over it, or you've run out of Buff on the 4th plate.
You can damage him through everything, as long as you're plate buff is active: Chest/armor transitions, staggers, plate nukes, plate cannons, & lava attacks.
And another good point for decision making brought on by u/boogs34 question:

If the plate goes immune and he is still recovering from damage and hasn't yet shot at you with his cannon what do you do? Go to next plate (because then he will aim at that plate!) or just stand and wait?

When confronted with this situation, hop off plates and collect ammo, then jump up to next plate after he stands up and gets his shot off. Losing a couple seconds off a plate > Losing an entire plate after a couple seconds

Generic Dreadhead · 19-10-2017 2:46pm

Handy

On Pleasure Gardens, your feet need to be touching the ground for damage stacks.

I was doing **** damage on dogs on prestige tonight. I watched my capture to try and figure out what was wrong, and found out that, you lose your stacks after a short delay when you jump up, and gain it back after touching back to ground (a single jump wouldn't cause problems).
I thought I was being smart by standing on a structure to avoid small dogs.... Turns out that was NOT smart.
P.S. Also you still lose damage stacks after dodging sometimes (not always). I thought they had fixed it; apparently not.

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