The official AH McGregor vs Mayweather thread

26-08-2017 03:05PM

Mayweather DQ

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Two fighters in combat with nothing but their strength and skill is about as pure a form of sport as you can get.

I know. People taking a dump on MMA are very ignorant to it I find usually. They're also the ones you'll find saying it's only followed by "angry young men" and skangers. It's gas, anyone I know that's properly into it on a fanatical level loves it and loves discussing it with great gusto and passion. They know it inside out and are encyclopaedic on it. Anyone I know that's involved in the sport is beyond dedicated to it and sacrifices other parts of their lives for it. Hate the lazy ill informed shots levelled at it, and I'd be a very very casual viewer.

Junkyard Tom · 26-08-2017 03:16PM

Mayweather K.O.

Omackeral wrote: »

I know. People taking a dump on MMA are very ignorant to it I find usually.

It's the people who'll exalt boxing (which is a far more dangerous and brutal sport imo) and **** all over MMA despite boxing being perhaps the most utilised martial art in MMA!

Oddballs.

Outlaw Pete · 26-08-2017 03:21PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

There's an element of snobbery from some people looking down on people who have an interest in the fight.

They are probably Irish Times readers, you know the sort.

Wright Thompson put it best when he said in an article he wrote about McGregor:

The Irish national daily papers have long served as the mouthpiece of the upwardly mobile and educated. McGregor rarely makes their pages. On the first morning of the prefight media tour, The Irish Times and the Independent ran a combined 128 words about it: one small story about Mayweather's tax problems.

Then after McGregor dropped his "racist" taunts during the tour, the two papers filled pages with essays and think pieces, and one story compared him to Donald Trump, calling him a disgrace to Ireland, its people and its flag. They'd been lying in the shadows, waiting for him to violate some code of modern life, and while they seem legitimately outraged at his racist comments, it's clear they're outraged at the idea of him too.

osarusan · 26-08-2017 03:21PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

I'm not a big fan of the "back him cos he's Irish" slant, there's plenty of Irish sports stars that I don't give a fiddlers about.

Same here. There are lots of sports that I don't have any interest in, and as a result I don't really care if the Irish contestants in those sports do well or not.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 26-08-2017 03:34PM

Mayweather K.O.

I presume this will have the biggest buyrate in PPV history.

Win or lose Conor is set for life.

humberklog · 26-08-2017 03:36PM

There's some good betting to be had for a person that likes a random punt.

I think Mayweather will win within the 12 rounds. So that's essentially a 12 horse race as far as I'm concerned. The favourite "horses" are rounds 3 to 7 @12/1 and the rest of the rounds go from 14's out to 22's (12th round).

I thinks it's worth sticking a pin in the paper and throwing 20quid on for fun.

weldoninhio · 26-08-2017 04:12PM

Mayweather DQ

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Yet you follow the exploits of a the Irish national soccer team, a lot of whom aren't even born here? Gwanawayoutathat.

I find the football lads a likeable bunch. None have said they wanted to ride into a favela and murder everyone.

Alf Veedersane · 26-08-2017 04:20PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

But, but, but his ma and da had sex on the same piece of rock as your ma and da, so obviously you have to follow him!!!

Not directed at you but that cuts both ways, ie for those claiming he's an embarrassment etc.

rossie1977 · 26-08-2017 04:30PM

Mayweather DQ

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I presume this will have the biggest buyrate in PPV history.

Win or lose Conor is set for life.

He will be set for life sure

Not sure this is doing biggest buyrate though. It's $100 in the states to watch and if ticket sales are anything to go by they have overpriced it, plenty of tickets still left now on Ticketmaster https://www1.ticketmaster.com/mayweather-v-mcgregor-las-vegas-nevada-08-26-2017/event/2E0052EAE9372152?&f_listview=3&fg=default_sectionmap&ab=m_efeat4156v1

weldoninhio · 26-08-2017 04:34PM

Mayweather DQ

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Not directed at you but that cuts both ways, ie for those claiming he's an embarrassment etc.

I'd agree with that. Anyone that looks at one person and thinks that they are an accurate representation of an entire country is an idiot.

Capt'n Midnight · 26-08-2017 04:40PM

"I'm gonna float like a butterfly and sting like a bee
George can't hit what his hands can't see. "
- Muhammad Ali

Sofiztikated · 26-08-2017 04:44PM

McGregor DQ

weldoninhio wrote: »

I find the football lads a likeable bunch. None have said they wanted to ride into a favela and murder everyone.

I know you mean the Irish team, but don't pretend that all footballers are squeaky clean.

How many match bans have there been for racist abuse (on and off pitch), how many scandals have there been involving women, how many have been involved in drink driving, match fixing, and so on.

Even the FAI aren't without controversy.

This doesn't excuse any stupid **** Conor has said, but at least make sure your own yard is clean before ****ting in someone elses.

LordSutch · 26-08-2017 04:51PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

"I'm gonna float like a butterfly and sting like a bee
George can't hit what his hands can't see. "
- Muhammad Ali

Gonna knock him out wit my Crumlin drawl, that Mayweather fella is gonna stall, I'm just too cute in my fancy suit ..... Bam bam bam, bitch!
-Corner McGregar.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 26-08-2017 04:53PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Wright Thompson put it best when he said in an article he wrote about McGregor:

Did you read the full article.It was a complete joke.Wright Thompson really doesn't have a clue what he's writing about when it comes to Ireland

Arghus · 26-08-2017 05:04PM

Mayweather DQ

That Wright Thompson article was like a bad parody it was so bad: totally laughable stuff.

His claims that McGregor never makes the pages of Irish newspapers are absolute crap. I really don't know why anyone would qoute anything from that article to prove or disprove anything about McGregor, Dublin or Irish society in general - nothing he wrote about had any semblance to reality.

Outlaw Pete · 26-08-2017 05:23PM

If you're referring how the rags will always write about him when his cars get towed, or he stands on the bonnet of a Rolls..... eh yeah, that's a thing for sure but that's not the kind of reporting on (or lack thereof) that the article was referencing.

The Irish media very rarely speak of McGregor's success in the UFC is the point.

Sure when he was up for Irish Sportsperson of the year there was uproar from certain quarters of the media.

26-08-2017 05:29PM

McGregor DQ

Donald Trump wrote: »

I said "mark" which can be taken as a one-on-one contest. Not that his team would win but that the analogy would be that he would man-mark him out of the game.

I have seen no evidence that McGregor is more agile or resilient. He is definitely athletic and cut, he is in great shape, but I don't necessarily think he is more agile, even with the age advantage.

Sorry, yes I see what you meant now.

I'm having second thoughts on McGregor today after watching a pre fight video in the MMA forum- maybe that's the good thing about all of this, it's just too hard to call.

Hope McGregor does it but probably getting more doubtful now on my "skills vs agility" theory yesterday.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 26-08-2017 05:30PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

If you're referring how the rags will always write about him when his cars get towed, or he stands on the bonnet of a Rolls..... eh yeah, that's a thing for sure but that's not the kind of reporting on (or lack thereof) that the article was referencing.

The Irish media very rarely speak of McGregor's success in the UFC is the point.

Sure when he was up for Irish Sportsperson of the year there was uproar from certain quarters of the media.

He's never out of the media in this country.

The man only fights 2 or 3 times a year so there isn't exactly much to fill the papers with when it comes to stories about his sporting successes.

PTH2009 · 26-08-2017 05:35PM

Why do so many guys walk out with the fighters??

The hard men poses are so cringewrothy

buried · 26-08-2017 05:42PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

He's never out of the media in this country.

The man only fights 2 or 3 times a year so there isn't exactly much to fill the papers with when it comes to stories about his sporting successes.

Yeah, but it all seems to be totally negative coverage DD. I wouldn't be a fight fan myself, but I listen to a good bit of RTE Radio 1 and all the head honcho's and producer's that present their radio shows up in that, they really really seem to dislike the man. Nothing good to say at all. I honestly believe that they don't like the fact he got to where he is today all by himself, without any sort of help or publicity from the likes of RTE and the establishment media in general. Can't be having that. Can't guilt trip him into appearing on the likes of the late late show or Saturday night with Miriam then!

Arghus · 26-08-2017 05:42PM

Mayweather DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

If you're referring how the rags will always write about him when his cars get towed, or he stands on the bonnet of a Rolls..... eh yeah, that's a thing for sure but that's not the kind of reporting on (or lack thereof) that the article was referencing.

The Irish media very rarely speak of McGregor's success in the UFC is the point.

Sure when he was up for Irish Sportsperson of the year there was uproar from certain quarters of the media.

That's complete nonsense: McGregor is never off the papers and his fights in the UFC since he's gone supernova get plenty of coverage - unless I imagined reading those articles in The Irish Times about his fights. There is no shortage of journalists giving McGregor credit for what he has achieved. He's the most famous man in the country.

Wright Thompson claimed different because (a) it suited the narrative he was trying to concoct and (b) he knows absolutely nothing about how McGregor is perceived by Irish society in general. Honestly, that article is a joke. Have you read it? Because, if you have it's mystifying to me why you would refer to it as some sort of objective view of things: it's complete over the top balderdash.

McGregor does get bad press as well, but that's more to do with his life outside of the octagon: everything he does, everything he posts or says gets column inches somewhere. The media can not get enough of him. And some of that voluminous coverage is going to be negative - let's face it a lot of his social media stuff is cringeworthy fodder for the media, but, apart from a few outliers who will always be ill-disposed towards MMA, no-one in the media seriously pours scorn on his sporting achievements. That argument is totally bogus.

neonsofa · 26-08-2017 05:49PM

I have no interest in the sport. I don't particularly like him either, although he's interesting to watch. His persona and story is fascinating imo.

I find that the people who complain about him or slagging off supporters are more cringe worthy than the people who support him. They're not harming anybody, they are enjoying something. Anybody who thinks they are better than someone else based on their choice of harmless entertainment needs to cop on.

It's the same as those who look down on people who watch Kardashians or what have you, yeah I watch crap tv, has no bearing on the rest of my life, I earn a good living, I am well educated, I subscribe to the national geographic too, I just enjoy bad tv :pac:

tigger123 · 26-08-2017 05:55PM

Mayweather DQ

Conor McGregor is a household name, and he participates in a sport that a vast majority of the country have zero interest in. The idea that the media ignores him is total b*llox.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 26-08-2017 06:09PM

buried wrote: »

Yeah, but it all seems to be totally negative coverage DD. I wouldn't be a fight fan myself, but I listen to a good bit of RTE Radio 1 and all the head honcho's and producer's that present their radio shows up in that, they really really seem to dislike the man. Nothing good to say at all. I honestly believe that they don't like the fact he got to where he is today all by himself, without any sort of help or publicity from the likes of RTE and the establishment media in general. Can't be having that. Can't guilt trip him into appearing on the likes of the late late show or Saturday night with Miriam then!

RTE had a 6 part documentary about him I imagine that helped boost his profile in ireland , he has also appeared on the late late show.

Nobody can get anywhere completely on their own they need help along the way.

RTE or any media outlet don't have to be complimentary about him remember RTE's general audience would be of a more mature age and I doubt McGregor appeals that much to people middle aged and above and so this is obviously going to affect RTE's coverage of him.He's also not immune from criticism and there is plenty he can be criticized for.

He's obviously not the most popular person in the Irish media compared to other Irish sporting figures like Brian O'Driscoll for example but McGregors public persona is off putting for a lot of people thus the less favorable media coverage he gets at times.

McGregor has pedaled this ridiculous narrative about his deprived life and how he's fought against the odds all his life to get to the top which of course a large amount of it is heavily embellished.

fullstop · 26-08-2017 06:17PM

BillyBobBS wrote: »

You'd like to see a woman beater defeat a fellow countryman, stay classy.

Ah here, if there's one thing this whole thing isn't, it's classy. 2 grown men screaming insults and swearing at each other in front of tv cameras for the last 2 months and people losing their minds at Paddy Power for sponsoring Mayweather :rolleyes:

26-08-2017 06:42PM

Rhonda Byrne has a lot to answer for..

willmunny1990 · 26-08-2017 06:49PM

neonsofa wrote: »

I have no interest in the sport. I don't particularly like him either, although he's interesting to watch. His persona and story is fascinating imo.

I find that the people who complain about him or slagging off supporters are more cringe worthy than the people who support him. They're not harming anybody, they are enjoying something. Anybody who thinks they are better than someone else based on their choice of harmless entertainment needs to cop on.

It's the same as those who look down on people who watch Kardashians or what have you, yeah I watch crap tv, has no bearing on the rest of my life, I earn a good living, I am well educated, I subscribe to the national geographic too, I just enjoy bad tv :pac:

I agree.

I know plenty that watch the likes of Big Brother, Soaps, Kardashians, Geordie Shore I mean the list goes on and on. As you said people enjoy bad TV and whats interesting to one wont be to another.

I have no problem with what people watch or spend their money on, however I do have a problem with trying to legitimize this as a competitive boxing match when its not. Floyd absolutely does not deserve the 50-0 after this.

This is more akin to WWE or something like that or some other version of tv entertainment.

I think a lot of people are in for a big disappointment.

neonsofa · 26-08-2017 07:01PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

I agree.

I know plenty that watch the likes of Big Brother, Soaps, Kardashians, Geordie Shore I mean the list goes on and on. As you said people enjoy bad TV and whats interesting to one wont be to another.

I have no problem with what people watch or spend their money on, however I do have a problem with trying to legitimize this as a competitive boxing match when its not. Floyd absolutely does not deserve the 50-0 after this.

This is more akin to WWE or something like that or some other version of tv entertainment.

I think a lot of people are in for a big disappointment.

Are most people not treating it like that though? I mean people are hopping on the bandwagon for the entertainment, it's not like it's all boxing experts that are walking around today with their crates of beer. Sure even charity football games that mean nothing- the types that Olly Murs and the likes play in- are for entertainment not a serious football game. It is what it is,people shouldn't get so riled up about it.

willmunny1990 · 26-08-2017 07:06PM

neonsofa wrote: »

Are most people not treating it like that though? I mean people are hopping on the bandwagon for the entertainment, it's not like it's all boxing experts that are walking around today with their crates of beer. Sure even charity football games that mean nothing- the types that Olly Murs and the likes play in- are for entertainment not a serious football game. It is what it is,people shouldn't get so riled up about it.

I think this is being treated a lot more serious than that.

I mean will Floyd claim the 50 if he wins? I think he'll try too which is farcical.

Sofiztikated · 26-08-2017 07:07PM

McGregor DQ

willmunny1990 wrote: »

I think this is being treated a lot more serious than that.

I mean will Floyd claim the 50 if he wins? I think he'll try too which is farcical.

If it's a 12 round war, is it still farcical?

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