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Jobstown 6 Not Guilty

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  • #962
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    So you are just going to cling to repeating a meaningless phrase. Very good.

    You are constantly displaying a dislike of Paul Murphy. You already said you don't know him, so it cannot be personal dislike, so it has to be political dislike.

    That is irrelevant in this debate as I don't like Murphy's politics either, nor care to debate about them.

    The issue is about something bigger than one politician.

    You keep doing it.Your hilarious.

    Also Murphy irrelevant to this? hahgahahahahahahahaqhgaqhahiahahj

    Keep making me laugh


  • #963
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You keep doing it.Your hilarious.

    Also Murphy irrelevant to this? hahgahahahahahahahaqhgaqhahiahahj

    Keep making me laugh

    I didn't say Murphy was irrelevant. I said he wasn't the issue.

    Try reading posts, not just making them mean what you want them to mean.


  • #964
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I didn't say Murphy was irrelevant. I said he wasn't the issue.

    Try reading posts, not just making them mean what you want them to mean.


    He's not the issue? hahahbahahahahahahahahaha

    What are you doing?


  • #965
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    WinnyThePoo wrote:
    He's not the issue? hahahbahahahahahahahahaha


    So you have absolutely no concerns about how the entire issue has been dealt with? The dawn raids, over the top charges, unreliable evidence form AGS. Nothing, all proper and above board is that what you believe? Or have I picked you up wrong?


  • #966
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    So you have absolutely no concerns about how the entire issue has been dealt with? The dawn raids, over the top charges, unreliable evidence form AGS. Nothing, all proper and above board is that what you believe? Or have I picked you up wrong?

    Assume away if you want.

    Certainly should have been charged with public disorder offences. Would have been quicker.

    Anyway the guards need reform, there is no doubt . If you think a public enquiry into this incident will help with reform . I think you will quite disappointed.


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  • #967
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »

    Anyway the guards need reform, there is no doubt . If you think a public enquiry into this incident will help with reform . I think you will quite disappointed.

    I for one am not suggesting it will achieve reform of the Gardai. But if this was what is alleged - organised perjury - then it will hasten reform.


  • #968
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I for one am not suggesting it will achieve reform of the Gardai. But if this was what is alleged - organised perjury - then it will hasten reform.

    Sadly I don't see any of our services getting reform anytime soon from HSE to Gardai. Of course I hope the opposite. We don't have the politicians/leaders with the ability to make Ireland better, if that makes sense.

    Paul should get on to the radio over the perjury. I want to him stand on his own two feet.


  • #969
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    WinnyThePoo wrote:
    Assume away if you want.


    No assumptions, i asked you a couple of questions . I understand if you're not able to answer.


  • #970
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    WinnyThePoo wrote:
    Anyway the guards need reform, there is no doubt . If you think a public enquiry into this incident will help with reform . I think you will quite disappointed.


    Actually a public enquiry is not about reform. It's about finding out and dealing with issues this trial has raised.
    Dealing in Whataboutery is an annoyance but I have yet to see some of the tillage farmers who staged a protest recently being charged with a public order offence or any for that matter. I guess it depends who's doing the protesting.


  • #971
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Sadly I don't see any of our services getting reform anytime soon from HSE to Gardai. Of course I hope the opposite. We don't have the politicians/leaders with the ability to make Ireland better, if that makes sense.

    Paul should get on to the radio over the perjury. I want to him stand on his own two feet.

    In fairness, there will never be reform if there are people who get sidetracked by personalities and political bias.

    Why would anyone be bothered.


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  • #972
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭mattser


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Thuggery, violent behaviour especially of the criminal.
    Murphy didn't engage in this behaviour despite posters continually trying to imply he did. It was a spontaneous protest no organisers so again Murphy and Co are only responsible for their own behaviour no one else's.
    'If one didn't agree with it, why did they remain at the scene' the straw clutching is beyond hilarious at this stage.
    On a side note I trust all those who agree with water charges will be refusing to accept a refund.

    Whether they choose to accept or refuse a refund, is entirely their business. They wont be bawling with megaphones over it, I'm pretty sure.


  • #973
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Actually a public enquiry is not about reform. It's about finding out and dealing with issues this trial has raised.
    Dealing in Whataboutery is an annoyance but I have yet to see some of the tillage farmers who staged a protest recently being charged with a public order offence or any for that matter. I guess it depends who's doing the protesting.

    Yes whataboutery. The old nugget.


  • #974
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    In fairness, there will never be reform if there are people who get sidetracked by personalities and political bias.

    Why would anyone be bothered.

    Exactly. I really wish guys like Paul murphy could give to society in a positive manner. Sadly his ideologue trumps mere plebs like you and me. He is always right and never wrong.


  • #975
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    mattser wrote: »
    Whether they choose to accept or refuse a refund, is entirely their business. They wont be bawling with megaphones over it, I'm pretty sure.

    Just on a point of interest:

    Given that protest works (look at pensioners, water charges etc) at what point would you be motivated protest on the street?


  • #976
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    mattser wrote:
    Whether they choose to accept or refuse a refund, is entirely their business. They wont be bawling with megaphones over it, I'm pretty sure.


    They now have that choice courtsey of Murphy and the 100's of thousands who refused to engage.


  • #977
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Exactly. I really wish guys like Paul murphy could give to society in a positive manner. Sadly his ideologue trumps mere plebs like you and me. He is always right and never wrong.

    Murphy gets re-elected. Just because he doesn't deliver for you doesn't mean diddly, really.
    You are really wasting your time and energy getting upset about that.


  • #978
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Murphy gets re-elected. Just because he doesn't deliver for you doesn't mean diddly, really.
    You are really wasting your time and energy getting upset about that.

    Are you assuming I'm upset in some way,?


  • #979
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭mattser


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Just on a point of interest:

    Given that protest works (look at pensioners, water charges etc) at what point would you be motivated protest on the street?

    The means of protest of the pensioners and (some) of the water charge people, were worlds apart.


  • #980
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Are you assuming I'm upset in some way,?

    Clearly you are.
    There were 6 people on trial here and your venomous 'thug and coward' commentary has been about only one of them. A bit irrational if I may say so.


  • #981
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    mattser wrote: »
    The means of protest of the pensioners and (some) of the water charge people, were worlds apart.

    That is not what I asked you.


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  • #982
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,332 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    They now have that choice courtsey of Murphy and the 100's of thousands who refused to engage.

    Do you know for certain there is a choice to refuse the refund? Ive read nothing about that being possible


  • #983
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Clearly you are.
    There were 6 people on trial here and your venomous 'thug and coward' commentary has been about only one of them. A bit irrational if I may say so.

    Assumptions Francie. Assumptions.


  • #984
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Assumptions Francie. Assumptions.

    Yes, it is an assumption. Which I am entitled to make even though you wrongly think I am disbarred from doing it. The evidence is all there.


  • #985
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    VinLieger wrote:
    Do you know for certain there is a choice to refuse the refund? Ive read nothing about that being possible


    I asked you a question earlier, the same question twice in fact. Curious to what makes you presume that you can continue to ask me questions and receive an answer yet feel you should not return the courtesy?


  • #986
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Yes, it is an assumption. Which I am entitled to make even though you wrongly think I am disbarred from doing it. The evidence is all there.

    Hahaha. Great stuff altogether.


  • #987
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    WinnyThePoo wrote:
    Assumptions Francie. Assumptions.


    I would, considering you vitriol towards Murphy agree with him.


  • #988
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,692 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Hahaha. Great stuff altogether.

    It's ok to be upset Winny. Let it out and let it go and concentrate on the real issue?


  • #989
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I would, considering you vitriol towards Murphy agree with him.

    Haha. Paul is a coward and a thug. It doesn't mean I'm emotional. You silly Billy.


  • #990
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Haha. Paul is a coward and a thug. It doesn't mean I'm emotional. You silly Billy.

    Just as a matter of interest, what did (or has) Murphy done to make him a coward or a thug?


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  • #991
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Rick Shaw wrote: »
    Just as a matter of interest, what did (or has) Murphy done to make him a coward or a thug?

    His words and actions.


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