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patsy_mccabe · 23-04-2017 11:22AM

I was in the mart before Christmas and a bit of an eye-opener to see how certain guys were buying certain types. One guy I know was buying all big beefy in-calf cow types that were calving early.
I reckon he calves them down, lets the calf drink for 3 weeks or so, sells the calf for crazy money and then fattens up the cow. I reckon he's doing ok at it.

orm0nd · 23-04-2017 11:32AM

kk.man wrote: »

Thats agents squaring up to each other...u can b sure the factory won't reward the buyer for it...factories are not fools...fair play to the seller he got caught up in a game of poker!

Pidae.m wrote: »

Nah weren't agent , they were spending there own money.

call them what you like but you can be sure anybody giving over the odds at marts have an open cheque book from the factories

Pidae.m · 23-04-2017 11:34AM

It's just one cow, he buys and sells hundreds every week. A lot more important for him to show the power and stay the king

Cavanjack wrote: »

The dealers are bigger fools than I thought if they are will to loose €200 on an animal just to outbid another dealer.

Pidae.m · 23-04-2017 11:36AM

The right one gets a serious touch but you have a lot of passengers at that game. You no what kinda lucky dip bag your buying

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I was in the mart before Christmas and a bit of an eye-opener to see how certain guys were buying certain types. One guy I know was buying all big beefy in-calf cow types that were calving early.
I reckon he calves them down, lets the calf drink for 3 weeks or so, sells the calf for crazy money and then fattens up the cow. I reckon he's doing ok at it.

Pidae.m · 23-04-2017 11:38AM

Two agents had a barney over a bundle of aa blks 660 for 1690. Now that was spending the others fellas money

Pidae.m wrote: »

It's just one cow, he buys and sells hundreds every week. A lot more important for him to show the power and stay the king

Danzy · 23-04-2017 12:34PM

Had a good laugh last time at the mart, 2 lads who despise each other, both of them angry fellows, in a bidding war with each other and the auctioneer goading them on with talk about the best man winning.

False pride is as a killer.

patsy_mccabe · 23-04-2017 01:56PM

Who has the greatest laugh there, the buyer or the under bidder?

Pidae.m · 23-04-2017 02:09PM

It's broke a lot of people.

Danzy wrote: »

Had a good laugh last time at the mart, 2 lads who despise each other, both of them angry fellows, in a bidding war with each other and the auctioneer goading them on with talk about the best man winning.

False pride is as a killer.

Pidae.m · 23-04-2017 02:11PM

Usually they both think they done the best if that's makes sense quote="patsy_mccabe;103304581"]Who has the greatest laugh there, the buyer or the under bidder?[/quote]

cute geoge · 23-04-2017 02:15PM

Pidae.m wrote: »

It's broke a lot of people.

I cannot understand the mentality of people who complain about jobbers and run them down ,they do get bargains but in fairness they are not shy to drive on lots either when it is put up to them

sonnybill · 23-04-2017 09:10PM

424kg sim breeding heifer 12mts I gave E1135. Classy heifer and will make a lovely cow but E2.67 a kg for a breeding animal did I give too much?

kk.man · 23-04-2017 09:24PM

orm0nd wrote: »

call them what you like but you can be sure anybody giving over the odds at marts have an open cheque book from the factories

To the best of myknowledge no factory gives an open cheque book...if that were the case there would be idiots like this running up losses.

Bullocks · 23-04-2017 09:36PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I was in the mart before Christmas and a bit of an eye-opener to see how certain guys were buying certain types. One guy I know was buying all big beefy in-calf cow types that were calving early.
I reckon he calves them down, lets the calf drink for 3 weeks or so, sells the calf for crazy money and then fattens up the cow. I reckon he's doing ok at it.

I'd hate seperating them after a few weeks . Mastitis would have to be knocking around too between drying them early and fattening them

Farrell · 23-04-2017 09:46PM

sonnybill wrote: »

424kg sim breeding heifer 12mts I gave E1135. Classy heifer and will make a lovely cow but E2.67 a kg for a breeding animal did I give too much?

Nice heifer, hopefully she should make a great one.
I think the price is fair, I wouldn't like to be selling at less if I bred her & she's almost ready for the bull & nice size so good purchase for you.
When do you intend to calve her & what will you put on her

furandfeather · 23-04-2017 09:53PM

sonnybill wrote: »

424kg sim breeding heifer 12mts I gave E1135. Classy heifer and will make a lovely cow but E2.67 a kg for a breeding animal did I give too much?

You buy her in tuam?

charolais0153 · 23-04-2017 09:55PM

sonnybill wrote: »

424kg sim breeding heifer 12mts I gave E1135. Classy heifer and will make a lovely cow but E2.67 a kg for a breeding animal did I give too much?

No u didn't. September 15 we sold a 400kg heifer for 900 and bought a 330 kg heifer for 900. If we had any sense at all we would of kept the heavy heifer and would have a calf on the ground rather than the simmy he bought

sonnybill · 23-04-2017 09:59PM

furandfeather wrote: »

You buy her in tuam?

No Clifden Mart

sonnybill · 23-04-2017 10:03PM

Farrell wrote: »

Nice heifer, hopefully she should make a great one.
I think the price is fair, I wouldn't like to be selling at less if I bred her & she's almost ready for the bull & nice size so good purchase for you.
When do you intend to calve her & what will you put on her

Will see how she is in June but I'd say we will let her grow on a bit but Zag first time out or similar limo and ch all the way after that starting with the likes of LZF or Fiston.

Gave her a dose , mineral boluses and pour on.. Dead quiet, wife fell in love with her as soon as she saw her in mart , just married so have to give her what she wanted !

Danzy · 23-04-2017 10:06PM

The satisfaction of that cannot be bought with money.

Farrell · 23-04-2017 10:26PM

sonnybill wrote: »

Will see how she is in June but I'd say we will let her grow on a bit but Zag first time out or similar limo and ch all the way after that starting with the likes of LZF or Fiston.

Gave her a dose , mineral boluses and pour on.. Dead quiet, wife fell in love with her as soon as she saw her in mart , just married so have to give her what she wanted !

Good plan, best of luck

moll3 · 23-04-2017 10:31PM

bought six calves limo hefiers this spring at mart turns out their father is zag xfr all 5 star should i be aiming to fatten or breed with thees calves

furandfeather · 24-04-2017 06:06AM

sonnybill wrote: »

No Clifden Mart

Sound. Looks the image of one the father sold last week.
435 kilos Got 1170 for her

croot · 24-04-2017 07:39AM

sonnybill wrote: »

424kg sim breeding heifer 12mts I gave E1135. Classy heifer and will make a lovely cow but E2.67 a kg for a breeding animal did I give too much?

If you were at the special sim sale that's held in Ballymote every year you'd have paid 2 or 3 hundred more for one like that.

croot · 24-04-2017 07:44AM

moll3 wrote: »

bought six calves limo hefiers this spring at mart turns out their father is zag xfr all 5 star should i be aiming to fatten or breed with thees calves

It depends on the quality of the calf. What I've seen so far at 5* sales is that the animal can have all the stars but without the shape and quality you will only get beef prices for them.

Sheep breeder · 24-04-2017 03:39PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Very little cow meat goes into the premium burger market. McD's and other larger burger joints insist on using U30 month beef. You local chipper is not as fussy. That cow when slaughtered was casting up on if not over 4.5/kg. That is higher than prime underage beef. Somebody had a mine is bigger than yours syndrome.

Good cows end up in rungis in Paris at premium price, the French eat cow beef more than young beef.

Sheep breeder · 24-04-2017 03:45PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I was in the mart before Christmas and a bit of an eye-opener to see how certain guys were buying certain types. One guy I know was buying all big beefy in-calf cow types that were calving early.
I reckon he calves them down, lets the calf drink for 3 weeks or so, sells the calf for crazy money and then fattens up the cow. I reckon he's doing ok at it.

Most guys calve them and run on till weaning and feed on to kill, as they will flesh up when not incalf and have two animals to sell.

locky76 · 24-04-2017 07:46PM

sonnybill wrote: »

424kg sim breeding heifer 12mts I gave E1135. Classy heifer and will make a lovely cow but E2.67 a kg for a breeding animal did I give too much?

Will she be milky enough?
Is she too heavy for breeding?
360kgs is the ideal breeding weight according to the new way of doing business so anything over 360kgs is dead money.
Lovely looking heifer by the way!

bosallagh88 · 24-04-2017 08:07PM

locky76 wrote: »

sonnybill wrote: »

424kg sim breeding heifer 12mts I gave E1135. Classy heifer and will make a lovely cow but E2.67 a kg for a breeding animal did I give too much?

Will she be milky enough?
Is she too heavy for breeding?
360kgs is the ideal breeding weight according to the new way of doing business so anything over 360kgs is dead money.
Lovely looking heifer by the way!

would bulling them at 360kgs not lead to calving difficulity -calving them too small?

croot · 24-04-2017 08:12PM

locky76 wrote: »

Will she be milky enough?
Is she too heavy for breeding?
360kgs is the ideal breeding weight according to the new way of doing business so anything over 360kgs is dead money.
Lovely looking heifer by the way!

Is that dairy?

Last suckler event I was at the advice was minimum 420 kg at breeding.

Who2 · 24-04-2017 08:33PM

locky76 wrote: »

Will she be milky enough?
Is she too heavy for breeding?
360kgs is the ideal breeding weight according to the new way of doing business so anything over 360kgs is dead money.
Lovely looking heifer by the way!

420 for sucklers and there are plenty out there that say that's too small.

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