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Allah snackbar · 02-04-2017 08:59PM

KC161 wrote: »

Ah that is a killer.

Do you do overnights?

I was getting €600 a week for 40 hours. Overtime extra. Loved the job, I was surplus to requirements 1 week before I was made permanent.

Haulage will only get worse, the hours will get longer and the money will drop again.

The driver being the easiest corner to cut.

No overnights involved , but it feels like it when you're sitting into a lorry at 5 in the morning

I know 1 guy that had enough so asked for a raise and got it and then proceeded to work his 8 to 6 every day and made sure he was always back in the yard by half 5 at the latest and his lorry empty and filled with diesel for the next day , boss got onto him about it and he said when the yard and office staff start doing the hours he was doing he'd go back to what he was doing , he didn't last long after that but I had a feeling he'd enough of it at that time so it was easy push him out , he's working part time for a guy in Clare now , drivers shouldn't be bullied like they are as the industry is crying out for drivers

tom85 · 02-04-2017 09:18PM

KC161 wrote: »

They wanted everyday for €88.75 before tax no extras if you worked on.

That a joke if they think people will work for that. But I know of company pushing driving like that. Drivers rushing all day trying keep hours down till one day a driver crashed cost him his job and any driving job for next 5 years because of insurance . Company insurance was like 70000 before cash and after 150000

tom85 · 02-04-2017 09:40PM

Just so people know Truck drivers that collect milk from farm are tacograph exemption and there day are usually anything from 13 hours to 17 hours a day and I not joking

Fred Swanson · 02-04-2017 09:41PM

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Pipetool · 02-04-2017 09:46PM

tom85 wrote:

Just so people know Truck drivers that collect milk from farm are tacograph exemption and there day are usually anything from 13 hours to 17 hours a day and I not joking

Very sad that this is still going on

Damien360 · 02-04-2017 10:09PM

tom85 wrote: »

Just so people know Truck drivers that collect milk from farm are tacograph exemption and there day are usually anything from 13 hours to 17 hours a day and I not joking

That's ridiculous. Those are owned by big business, well able to afford the extra drivers. Is that an old law never updated ? Or a Charlie haughy classic ? Does that extend to the artic size milk tankers ?

Four Phucs Ache · 02-04-2017 10:27PM

KC161 wrote: »

Are expenses provided on top of it?

Best I was ever on in trucks was €120 a day.

He gets 35 per week in a separate cheque for food and thats it.
He's young and lives at home etc and just happy to be in a Scania!

tom85 · 02-04-2017 10:28PM

Damien360 wrote: »

That's ridiculous. Those are owned by big business, well able to afford the extra drivers. Is that an old law never updated ? Or a Charlie haughy classic ? Does that extend to the artic size milk tankers ?

Yes artic are Exmption too. And the way they make of fool of driver is to pay by load ie usually 55 euro a load so driving will push to get three load a day in...... The law is cross the European Union it to stop driver from taking a break. The thinking behind is get milk back to factory as quickly as possible to stop it from going off

Damien360 · 02-04-2017 10:56PM

tom85 wrote: »

Yes artic are Exmption too. And the way they make of fool of driver is to pay by load ie usually 55 euro a load so driving will push to get three load a day in...... The law is cross the European Union it to stop driver from taking a break. The thinking behind is get milk back to factory as quickly as possible to stop it from going off

I didn't realise there were so many exemptions. Milk truck is a bit silly. Not sure they were meant to include artic size trucks. Some make sense. Even bin trucks are exempt. It keeps mentioning 7.5 tonnes for non-commercial goods but what is the weight of an artic milk truck with a full load and it is obviously a commercial load ?

Edit: found the guidelines and I think max is about 40 tonnes based on ISO rig. Can't find the typical weight or volume to guess but it is obviously over 7.5 tonnes.

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Professional%20Drivers/Exemptions%20and%20derogations%20from%20the%20EU%20Tachograph%20and%20driver.pdf[url][/url]

Damien360 · 02-04-2017 11:07PM

Damien360 wrote: »

I didn't realise there were so many exemptions. Milk truck is a bit silly. Not sure they were meant to include artic size trucks. Some make sense. Even bin trucks are exempt. It keeps mentioning 7.5 tonnes for non-commercial goods but what is the weight of an artic milk truck with a full load and it is obviously a commercial load ?

Edit: found the guidelines and I think max is about 40 tonnes based on ISO rig. Can't find the typical weight or volume to guess but it is obviously over 7.5 tonnes.

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Professional%20Drivers/Exemptions%20and%20derogations%20from%20the%20EU%20Tachograph%20and%20driver.pdf[url][/url]

For anyone odd enough like myself looking for that info

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Vehicle%20Std%20Leg/Vehicle%20regs/Weights_Dimensions_Leaflet.pdf[url][/url]

tom85 · 02-04-2017 11:15PM

Damien360 wrote: »

I didn't realise there were so many exemptions. Milk truck is a bit silly. Not sure they were meant to include artic size trucks. Some make sense. Even bin trucks are exempt. It keeps mentioning 7.5 tonnes for non-commercial goods but what is the weight of an artic milk truck with a full load and it is obviously a commercial load ?

Edit: found the guidelines and I think max is about 40 tonnes based on ISO rig. Can't find the typical weight or volume to guess but it is obviously over 7.5 tonnes.

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Professional%20Drivers/Exemptions%20and%20derogations%20from%20the%20EU%20Tachograph%20and%20driver.pdf[url][/url]

Milk artic are 100% exempt driver doing milk ete will just put the tacograph on "out of scope mode" even artic drawing waste from meat factory are exempt

ml100 · 02-04-2017 11:23PM

tom85 wrote: »

Yes artic are Exmption too. And the way they make of fool of driver is to pay by load ie usually 55 euro a load so driving will push to get three load a day in...... The law is cross the European Union it to stop driver from taking a break. The thinking behind is get milk back to factory as quickly as possible to stop it from going off

What did the CEO of glanbia pay herself last year, €2 million wasn't it

D Trent · 02-04-2017 11:37PM

I'm aware this thread has gone wildly o/t, but just to clarify for some people;

The tractor units pulling the milk tankers are owned by the drivers not the company in 99% of cases. Them drivers would be paid a tidy sum and they then have to look after their own paye/usc tax, maintenance of the tractor unit and diesel.

The tractor units pulling the refrigerated trailers with trolleys of milk cartons/bottles would be employees, abiding by Tacho and ultimately on less take home than the tanker drivers.

tom85 · 02-04-2017 11:51PM

D Trent wrote: »

I'm aware this thread has gone wildly o/t, but just to clarify for some people;

The tractor units pulling the milk tankers are owned by the drivers not the company in 99% of cases.
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It far from 99% more like one in ten. Tanker would be owned by the driver

tom85 · 03-04-2017 12:03AM

ml100 wrote: »

What did the CEO of glanbia pay herself last year, €2 million wasn't it

Let face it have driver as class as monkey . But when things go wrong it professional driver

Atlantic Dawn · 03-04-2017 12:16AM

How are countries like France allowed to make driving a truck in their country illegal on a Sunday for all trucks including foreign owned?

BorneTobyWilde · 03-04-2017 12:31AM

I know an owner driver that hauls timber who recently bought a new volvo rigid and drag complete with timber crane, all top spec. It cost 220,000 , how the hell is he paying for that drawing timber at cut throat rates. I have no idea.

neris · 03-04-2017 05:56AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

How are countries like France allowed to make driving a truck in their country illegal on a Sunday for all trucks including foreign owned?

Its not all trucks. Units carrying perishable goods, exhibition/show items or trucks with a permit are allowed run on sundays. Theres also a strip from calais up to belgium where trucks are allowed to run to make it into belgium.

Over here any ROI reg'd truck running into NI or UK has to pay to a £10 daily levy. Alot of EU countries also charge hgv levies/taxes. We dont charge anything to Johnny Foreigner or johnny nordy here

joujoujou · 03-04-2017 12:50PM

Well, nothing really interesting at the moment. :cool:

https://twitter.com/gardainfo/status/848236151534211072

03-04-2017 02:22PM

joujoujou wrote: »

Well, nothing really interesting at the moment. :cool:

https://twitter.com/gardainfo/status/848236151534211072

I must be so old! They look like 2 transition year students dressed as Gardai.

ED E · 03-04-2017 05:33PM

DUI
https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/848947683301654528

bear1 · 03-04-2017 05:47PM

Hope the pint was worth it.
Is it an a4?

Fred Swanson · 03-04-2017 05:49PM

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bear1 · 03-04-2017 05:50PM

Curious, the cars they take off the roads for no insurance are due to anpr hits or would they call the insurance company for confirmation?

Falcon L · 03-04-2017 05:51PM

ED E wrote: »

DUI
https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/848947683301654528

75 people were injured in the Taxi.

b_mac2 · 03-04-2017 05:56PM

I can't get over the amount of drivers being caught without insurance! Would it be safe to say that <15% of cars in this country are not insured?

Do many people here know, personally about friends or family who do it?

Fred Swanson · 03-04-2017 05:58PM

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bear1 · 03-04-2017 06:00PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

They wouldn't be able to call them after hours.

For a sec I thought you meant the forum

Truckermal · 03-04-2017 06:13PM

bear1 wrote: »

For a sec I thought you meant the forum

Blast them with p1ss...:D

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