BE strike [Read 1st post before posting]

Quackster · 25-03-2017 10:17PM

JCX BXC wrote: »

Any predictions as to whether the trains will be affected again by the BE strike? Taking on in a week and a bit and as I'll be using it to catch a flight I am a bit weary.

The 'comradeship' from the IE lads obviously extended to forgoing just one-day's wages.

Which at least was one day more than the 'comradeship' on offer from the Dublin Bus lads.

kerosene · 25-03-2017 10:28PM

Sorry if this has been covered before, but i purchased a 10 journey weekly ticket for €69 last thursday, obviously the strike started midnight the following night.
The bus driver reckoned it would be monday week before a strike would commence and that extra days would be honoured to cover the days of strike action.
Has there been any official explanation on how customers can be compensated or further validation of the ticket.

Wheety · 25-03-2017 10:30PM

kerosene wrote: »

Sorry if this has been covered before, but i purchased a 10 journey weekly ticket for €69 last thursday, obviously the strike started midnight the following night.
The bus driver reckoned it would be monday week before a strike would commence and that extra days would be honoured to cover the days of strike action.
Has there been any official explanation on how customers can be compensated or further validation of the ticket.

Is this ticket valid for a period of time of a number of journeys? Is it for 10 journeys or 1 week?

kerosene · 25-03-2017 10:31PM

Wheety wrote: »

Is this ticket valid for a period of time of a number of journeys? Is it for 10 journeys or 1 week?

10 journeys within a seven day period. i used two journeys on thursday.

n97 mini · 25-03-2017 10:44PM

JCX BXC wrote: »

Any predictions as to whether the trains will be affected again by the BE strike? Taking on in a week and a bit and as I'll be using it to catch a flight I am a bit weary.

Where are you travelling from? Might be time to get acquainted with the private operators.

JCX BXC · 25-03-2017 10:47PM

Dublin Coach is the other option, I have availed of them before,, but slightly more expensive and I do enjoy the train. Seems like IR have resumed normal operations for now, hope it continues.

Hilly Bill · 25-03-2017 10:53PM

Any private operators covering the Longford to Sligo area?

n97 mini · 25-03-2017 10:58PM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Any private operators covering the Longford to Sligo area?

Furey's -- seems to be for students tho

http://www.thebus.ie/timetable.html

Jamie2k9 · 25-03-2017 11:42PM

Quackster wrote: »

The 'comradeship' from the IE lads obviously extended to forgoing just one-day's wages.

Which at least was one day more than the 'comradeship' on offer from the Dublin Bus lads.

TBH I think it was more than wages that got them back to work....I hope it's the end of their involvement but not so sure..

26-03-2017 12:33AM

Are all the private operators keeping up with the demand during the strike? I am traveling with John McGinley Coaches during the week, I hope it is not over subscribed. Is there extra services scheduled or additional vehicles put on?

Fred Swanson · 26-03-2017 12:40AM

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JCX BXC · 26-03-2017 12:42AM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

How are the private operators coping? Are customers being left behind due to over crowding?

I doubt it's too widespread, if it was I'm sure we'd be seeing plenty of media stories about it.

The trains running today should help alleviate the demand.

mike2084 · 26-03-2017 12:52AM

JCX BXC wrote: »

Dublin Coach is the other option, I have availed of them before,, but slightly more expensive and I do enjoy the train. Seems like IR have resumed normal operations for now, hope it continues.

I used them Friday and will use again on Monday as I don't trust the trains not to go out again.

devnull · 26-03-2017 01:14AM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Don't know about today but on Friday I heard Citylink had 6 vehicles hired in and Aircoach had 10 to add extra capacity.

JTMan · 26-03-2017 10:15AM

The Sunday Business Post reports that BE might be taken into examinership. Creditors normally loose from an examinership process.

eeguy · 26-03-2017 10:27AM

devnull wrote: »

Don't know about today but on Friday I heard Citylink had 6 vehicles hired in and Aircoach had 10 to add extra capacity.

Ya gotta love the free market.

Voipjunkie · 26-03-2017 10:47AM

Quackster wrote: »

The 'comradeship' from the IE lads obviously extended to forgoing just one-day's wages.

Which at least was one day more than the 'comradeship' on offer from the Dublin Bus lads.

Irish rail had shared facilities that involved passing a picket, the only one DB shares with BE is broadstone and DB put alternative arrangements in place so their staff didn't have to pass a picket.

It is early days yet in this one though if it drags on the chances of it spreading increase.

Peppa Pig · 26-03-2017 12:05PM

devnull wrote: »

The service is a partnership between Bus Eireann and GoBus even if the service is technically a GoBus one operated by non BE staff.

Makes you wonder why the school busses are running. Are they afraid to intimidate/discommode rural parents?

devnull · 26-03-2017 01:04PM

Peppa Pig wrote: »

Makes you wonder why the school busses are running. Are they afraid to intimidate/discommode rural parents?

They are contracted out fort he most and don't go anywhere near BE facilities.

Mebuntu · 26-03-2017 01:08PM

Voipjunkie wrote: »

Irish rail had shared facilities that involved passing a picket, the only one DB shares with BE is broadstone and DB put alternative arrangements in place so their staff didn't have to pass a picket.

It is early days yet in this one though if it drags on the chances of it spreading increase.

If the trains are running today does that mean the IR staff are passing pickets. If so, there is no excuse for not passing them from now on as “principles” that can be turned on and off are not credible.

I’d be interested to know what the legal situation is re sympathy strikes. As far as I can see they are deemed illegal but there doesn’t seem to be any info on what action (insofar as the law is concerned) can follow for anyone engaged in such.

Of course, under normal circumstances if an employee refuses to turn up for work they could be suspended or dismissed. IR are in an unenviable position. If they attempted to discipline any employee for refusing to turn up for work while BE pickets are in place the union would most likely start their own strike.

Jamie2k9 · 26-03-2017 01:10PM

Mebuntu wrote: »

If the trains are running today does that mean the IR staff are passing pickets. If so, there is no excuse for not passing them from now on as “principles” that can be turned on and off are not credible.

I’d be interested to know what the legal situation is re sympathy strikes. As far as I can see they are deemed illegal but there doesn’t seem to be any info on what action (insofar as the law is concerned) can follow for anyone engaged in such.

Of course, under normal circumstances if an employee refuses to turn up for work they could be suspended or dismissed. IR are in an unenviable position. If they attempted to discipline any employee for refusing to turn up for work while BE pickets are in place the union would most likely start their own strike.

What IE staff did on Friday was totally illegal and you could assume pressure was put on unions to encourage members to return to work.

Peppa Pig · 26-03-2017 01:25PM

devnull wrote: »

They are contracted out fort he most and don't go anywhere near BE facilities.

Yeah I knew that, but its administered by BE. GoBE is a partnership, school transport is a BE service. The unions don't seem to be telling staff not to administer it. Maybe they are not in the union or it looks after itself very well.

malcy · 26-03-2017 03:03PM

Just got a txt from GoBe to say my bus from Dub airport to Cork has ben cancelled. Good luck getting what you want from your strike. Idiots. Any alternatives?

devnull · 26-03-2017 03:05PM

malcy wrote: »

Just got a txt from GoBe to say my bus from Dub airport to Cork has ben cancelled. Good luck getting what you want from your strike. Idiots. Any alternatives?

GoBe appears to be safety related after events of Friday when passengers and staff were intimidated so don't blame GoBE.

Aircoach running 18 times a day:
http://aircoach.ie/timetables/route-704-x-cork-dublin-city-dublin-airport-express

Arcade_Tryer · 26-03-2017 03:11PM

malcy wrote: »

Just got a txt from GoBe to say my bus from Dub airport to Cork has ben cancelled. Good luck getting what you want from your strike. Idiots. Any alternatives?

What about the kids public, Roy? They'll get over it.

devnull · 26-03-2017 03:15PM

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

What about the kids public, Roy? They'll get over it.

Indeed, intimidation of the public and staff who are waiting for a bus operated by a private company, which then leads to services being withdrawn so the public have to make other plans at short notice is nothing.

Brendan Bendar · 26-03-2017 03:40PM

Voipjunkie wrote: »

Irish rail had shared facilities that involved passing a picket, the only one DB shares with BE is broadstone and DB put alternative arrangements in place so their staff didn't have to pass a picket.

It is early days yet in this one though if it drags on the chances of it spreading increase.

This will be the nuclear option.

Rest assured the Transport unions will have had their ducks in a row on this one.

Otherwise they wouldn't have gone for an indefinite..big risk there without a backstop.

If things are getting edgy watch for the strike spreading, or certainly efforts will be made to spread it.

Very little public support on this one.

Stephen15 · 26-03-2017 05:02PM

devnull wrote: »

GoBe appears to be safety related after events of Friday when passengers and staff were intimidated so don't blame GoBE.

Aircoach running 18 times a day:
http://aircoach.ie/timetables/route-704-x-cork-dublin-city-dublin-airport-express

Dublin coach and the trains are running as normal too

devnull · 26-03-2017 05:16PM

Stephen15 wrote: »

Dublin coach and the trains are running as normal too

I would congratulate anyone who tolerates an almost 5 hour trip between Dublin Airport and Cork by using Dublin Coach and the required change of coaches, I didn't include them because of the cost and the journey duration.

JCX BXC · 26-03-2017 05:24PM

devnull wrote: »

I would congratulate anyone who tolerates an almost 5 hour trip between Dublin Airport and Cork by using Dublin Coach and the required change of coaches, I didn't include them because of the cost and the journey duration.

Try Ennis-Heuston with a change at Limerick and Limerick Junction, and then an hour 20mins bus from Heuston to the airport

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