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Robbie25808 · 12-03-2017 05:26PM

monroe89 wrote: »

Robbie25808 wrote: »

Are both Murder and Manslaughter dealt with under the Criminal Justice Act 1964?

Murder is section 4 but manslaughter has no statutory definition, you need to discuss it in relation to the case law.

Ah perfect thanks.

wellers123 · 12-03-2017 05:45PM

Would anyone be so gracious as to send me an updated contract grid?
What is everyone leaving out? Feels like theres not much room to leave out more than 3 or 4 chapters

the great communicator · 12-03-2017 05:54PM

wellers123 wrote: »

Would anyone be so gracious as to send me an updated contract grid?
What is everyone leaving out? Feels like theres not much room to leave out more than 3 or 4 chapters

What saved me for contract was getting the exam reports out and making a note of every case she mentions in the exam report. Then for the problem questions you're not so much learning full topics as specific cases from each topic that appear time and time again.
The essays are more difficult to prepare for but they do repeat and there's plenty of choice.

LLBeatle · 12-03-2017 06:07PM

What are the cases that you couldn't walk into contract without knowing?

wellers123 · 12-03-2017 06:17PM

that's actually really helpful thanks i'll definitely do that too

12-03-2017 08:13PM

anyone know what an innominate term is its not in my manual and is there a case?please

the great communicator · 12-03-2017 08:19PM

20029422 wrote: »

anyone know what an innominate term is its not in my manual and is there a case?please

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Fir_Shipping_Co_Ltd_v_Kawasaki_Kisen_Kaisha_Ltd

That's the main case and there's an Irish case too but I threw my notes away sorry.

Sorry I realise that's quite a long summary and probably unhelpful 2 days before an exam. If you google around you might get a shorter one.

12-03-2017 08:26PM

the great communicator wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Fir_Shipping_Co_Ltd_v_Kawasaki_Kisen_Kaisha_Ltd

That's the main case and there's an Irish case too but I threw my notes away sorry.

ah thanks I have that case my manual just didn't use the term innominate so what it is basically is the grey area between being a warranty and condition and the test the case set out

LegalLaaaaady · 12-03-2017 08:58PM

What's everyone's best guess for criminal tomorrow? Does anyone know what independent colleges have guessed?

Robbie25808 · 12-03-2017 09:51PM

Insanity:

What happens, where you are caused to enter into a state from failure to eat after taking insulin?
So this is self induced.
I have in my notes something about specific intent and basic intent but I don't understand it?

graduate555 · 12-03-2017 09:54PM

Robbie25808 wrote: »

Insanity:

What happens, where you are caused to enter into a state from failure to eat after taking insulin?
So this is self induced.
I have in my notes something about specific intent and basic intent but I don't understand it?

It's treated the same as when you voluntarily drink and commit an offence - it is a defense to crimes of specific intent only, because he chose not to eat after taking the insulin, similar to if he chose to drink to excess. They are both types of non-insane automatism.

And be careful as it's not insanity. Insanity comes from an internal factor - in your situation, it was external (insulin)

Yoop · 12-03-2017 10:07PM

nmwcc wrote: »

has anyone else a CLUE what to do if you've lost your letter from the law society ?!

Mention it to the invigilators in your exam centre before it starts. They have your name and exam number on the sheet you sign so maybe if you showed your ID and explain they'll tell you what to do.

nmwcc · 12-03-2017 10:13PM

I am getting quite confused between Incohate offences and complicity .... In a problem question; if the offence is NOT complete - for example the person who was to killed ends up in a vegetative state; would we answer this under incitement rather than abetting ??

XxMCRxBabyxX · 12-03-2017 10:39PM

How essential are case names in Criminal? I'm really struggling to take them all in and remember them right now.

graduate555 · 12-03-2017 10:44PM

nmwcc wrote: »

I am getting quite confused between Incohate offences and complicity .... In a problem question; if the offence is NOT complete - for example the person who was to killed ends up in a vegetative state; would we answer this under incitement rather than abetting ??

I asked this a while back too! I looked it up and what I gather is that for a complicity offence, the crime they were abetting has to have been committed - so in your case it wouldn't be abetting. But inchoate offences are crimes in themselves separate to the offence they were inciting, so I would think in your situation it would be incitement.. That's just my understanding!

Robbie25808 · 12-03-2017 11:48PM

graduate555 wrote: »

I asked this a while back too! I looked it up and what I gather is that for a complicity offence, the crime they were abetting has to have been committed - so in your case it wouldn't be abetting. But inchoate offences are crimes in themselves separate to the offence they were inciting, so I would think in your situation it would be incitement.. That's just my understanding!

I thought for inchoate offences they planted it in the head of the person? The other person never thought of committing the crime?
While for aiding,abetting etc they had thought of the crime and were just encouraged?

nmwcc · 12-03-2017 11:52PM

The way I have interpreted it; incohate offences are where the substantive offence is not complete, so attempted murder or the conspiracy to commit murder or inciting a person to commit murder. If the crime was carried out and completed, then you would look at complicity .. could be wrong

Ferry.Man · 13-03-2017 12:10AM

Quick question regarding Criminal

This may be obvious but if a person commits burglary and then commits theft once inside the property. Are they charged with both offences so we discuss both?

I assume we do?

Thanks

Robbie25808 · 13-03-2017 06:56AM

Was anybody able to find the answer our on the difference between inchoate offence and complicity?
My book says for inchoate that if the persuade l, coerce or otherwise cause another to commit a crime?
If that is the case, then the previous description doesn't work as it says cause to commit the crime?
Would really appreciate an answer☺

Becks63976 · 13-03-2017 08:55AM

Can anybody tell me is it essential to have the Sale of Goods Act 1893 for the contract exam.

the great communicator · 13-03-2017 09:27AM

Does anyone know the rule for witnesses under 18 attesting a will?

Does it make the will invalid or just call the will into question? It seems to be an issue in a lot of the problems but it's not mentioned in Lyall or my manual.

kyliewyote7 · 13-03-2017 10:23AM

the great communicator wrote: »

Does anyone know the rule for witnesses under 18 attesting a will?

Does it make the will invalid or just call the will into question? It seems to be an issue in a lot of the problems but it's not mentioned in Lyall or my manual.

I'm at a loss with this too - can't see anything the act relating to age of witnesses.
Examiner has made reference in reports to witnesses being young people but doesn't mention anything that might illuminate the issue!

ak4321 · 13-03-2017 11:18AM

Could anyone tell me what part in particular of the landlord and tenant chapter would be best to focus on? Only starting it today because I think I need a backup

the great communicator · 13-03-2017 11:31AM

ak4321 wrote: »

Could anyone tell me what part in particular of the landlord and tenant chapter would be best to focus on? Only starting it today because I think I need a backup

I find that it's a horrible chapter and actually has quite a bit to cover, licenses is very handy to cover in an hour and actually comes up quite a bit

Wonderstruck · 13-03-2017 11:37AM

A person under 18 cannot witness a will. So the will would lose the presumption that it was been drafted correctly ie the will effectively has no valid attestation clause. (But could still be valid dependingdepending on everything else, see s 78 Succession Act (no req for, such a clause) and Scraff v Scraff). Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick or learned it allfrom wrong... uh oh

Edit: Forgot to use quotes! Can't work out how to do pn mobile

odwyer94 · 13-03-2017 11:44AM

Becks63976 wrote: »

Can anybody tell me is it essential to have the Sale of Goods Act 1893 for the contract exam.

Nope definitely not

lori1980 · 13-03-2017 11:45AM

Cant post link but go to johnoconnorsolicitors website, article in 2014, requirements for a valid will which discusses age of witnesses.age isnt relevent as long as they can view act of signing.not a great idea to ask so close to exam on boards googling and cross referencing is better in my opinion (no shade) best of luck!

Wonderstruck · 13-03-2017 12:17PM

lori1980 wrote: »

Cant post link but go to johnoconnorsolicitors website, article in 2014, requirements for a valid will which discusses age of witnesses.age isnt relevent as long as they can view act of signing.not a great idea to ask so close to exam on boards googling and cross referencing is better in my opinion (no shade) best of luck!

http://www.johnoconnorsolicitors.ie/docs/default-source/eguides/a-guide-to-making-a-will-in-ireland.pdf

thanks, can't beat a simple language guide! Though these problem questions make me laugh, you don't have to be a legal whizz to stop and think: should someone who isn't an adult witness a serious legal document? >.<;

Lumi77 · 13-03-2017 01:36PM

Quick question for contract .
Would I be safe to leave out misrepresentation, duress, privity and parties to a contract.
My head can't take anymore.
I have all the rest well covered. Have an idea of the above but don't want to revise them
Thank you.

Pickpocket · 13-03-2017 01:40PM

Lumi77 wrote: »

Quick question for contract .
Would I be safe to leave out misrepresentation, duress, privity and parties to a contract.
My head can't take anymore.
I have all the rest well covered. Have an idea of the above but don't want to revise them
Thank you.

If you genuinely have everything else covered then you'll have have enough.

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