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mailburner · 27-02-2017 11:22AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Dont agree, Woodley is a pain in the arse for the UFC does nothing but moan about how hes treated and race baits, they are praying Wonerboy head kicks him dead.

I've a bad feeling he'll win the rematch and we'll have to suffer him for another six months

EagererBeaver · 27-02-2017 01:32PM

Don't think Woodley-Wonderboy trilogy happens either. People forgetting that the result of first fight was a draw, albeit a controversial one.

Gamebred · 27-02-2017 01:40PM

Have no real appetite for this rematch as it is, be surprised if Wonderboy can beat him expect a lot more wreslting from Woodley too in this,

Maia will strangle Masvidal hit the single leg and its game over if he can take down Rory Condit Chael and anyone else hes taking down Masvidal.

dashoonage · 27-02-2017 01:43PM

Maia will be champ. There is nothing anyone can do to stop it. The BJJ Gods have willed it.

mdwexford · 27-02-2017 02:05PM

Maia is 40 this year as well.

Absolutely no sign he's on the decline yet obviously but it can happen fast once you hit that age. He needs the shot this year.

Mellor · 27-02-2017 02:24PM

mdwexford wrote: »

Maia is 40 this year as well.

Absolutely no sign he's on the decline yet obviously but it can happen fast once you hit that age. He needs the shot this year.

True. Something that stands to him is the fact he's taken about 14 strikes in his last 4 or 5 fights combined.
He has reverse mileage compared to the guys in war after war

MartyMcFly84 · 27-02-2017 06:07PM

I seem to remember him being about 30 when he joined the UFC, an age when many fighters are starting to wind down their careers he was just getting started.

Like Randy Couture before him, I think there is something to be said about longevity when entering the top level at an older age. Roughly a pro career lasts about 10 years, it seems like starting later in some cases helps them carry on to an older age than someone starting out at 20 and hoping to get a 20 year career out of it.

Tazzimus · 27-02-2017 07:20PM

Mellor wrote: »

The difference is I'm not worried. Jorge gonna getting choked :pac:

Jorge gonna be wearing that Brazillian backpack from the get go.

Lukker- · 28-02-2017 12:34AM

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

I seem to remember him being about 30 when he joined the UFC, an age when many fighters are starting to wind down their careers he was just getting started.

Like Randy Couture before him, I think there is something to be said about longevity when entering the top level at an older age. Roughly a pro career lasts about 10 years, it seems like starting later in some cases helps them carry on to an older age than someone starting out at 20 and hoping to get a 20 year career out of it.

That only really applies to guys coming from BJJ and wrestling though doesn't it?

If you are coming from kickboxing, muay thai or boxing you'll still likely have lots of miles on the clock, be it from sparring or fighting.

Grapplers only real wear and tear would be on their joints.

laoch na mona · 28-02-2017 12:07PM

Lukker- wrote: »

That only really applies to guys coming from BJJ and wrestling though doesn't it?

If you are coming from kickboxing, muay thai or boxing you'll still likely have lots of miles on the clock, be it from sparring or fighting.

Grapplers only real wear and tear would be on their joints.

I don't think it can be genealised to a particular style.

How long they've been training as an amateur/semi pro would matter more. Someone who was a high level amateur as a teenager will have been training nearly 20 years when they are in their 30s

Of course luck is a big part an amature/semi pro career with few injuries wouldn't add much mileage compared to one with a few injuries.

Mellor · 28-02-2017 02:01PM

laoch na mona wrote: »

I don't think it can be genealised to a particular style.

How long they've been training as an amateur/semi pro would matter more. Someone who was a high level amateur as a teenager will have been training nearly 20 years when they are in their 30s

I think you actually can generalize tbh. Somebody coming from BJJ to MMA at a later age might have less mileage (as Marty described) but I don't think you could say the same about a guy who was a pro kickboxer/muay thai fighter before moving to MMA. He'd be racking up the same mileage in both sports imo.

Django99 · 01-03-2017 12:18PM

Maia v Masvidal is booked for 211, which suggests either GSP or McGregor will fight the winner of Woodley/Thompson. Probably GSP.

I would pick Maia to win but Masvidal is a dangerous fight for him.

dashoonage · 01-03-2017 12:28PM

Maia by whateverthe****hewantstoplata.

Its all fun and games until Main takes your back and gets the hooks in.

Mellor · 01-03-2017 12:40PM

Django99 wrote: »

Maia v Masvidal is booked for 211, which suggests either GSP or McGregor will fight the winner of Woodley/Thompson. Probably GSP.

I don't think Maia booking a fight means anything tbh. The winner wasn't defending in 8 weeks time. Probably not until July or August, plenty of time for Maia.

GSP won't be fighting until later than that again.

Gamebred · 01-03-2017 12:42PM

Woodley is due to take 6 months off after this anyways for a movie I read, if theres is an mma god he will give us a wonderboy wheel kick ko of him.

Django99 · 01-03-2017 12:49PM

Mellor wrote: »

I don't think Maia booking a fight means anything tbh. The winner wasn't defending in 8 weeks time. Probably not until July or August, plenty of time for Maia.

GSP won't be fighting until later than that again.

You may be right but I can't see him being next at this point. When the rematch was booked he came out publicly and said he would wait for the winner of the rematch. I don't see why he would change his mind and book a fight for two months after the rematch if he still felt he was next in line.

Has to earn money somehow though I suppose and there's not many ways for a UFC fighter to do it other than fight.

dashoonage · 01-03-2017 03:03PM

I kinda want to see Wonderboy and Maia fight....just for the most polite trash talk ever.

Gamebred · 01-03-2017 06:19PM

Dana just announced Bisping v GSP on ESPN for second half of the year.

maximoose · 01-03-2017 06:25PM

Poor Yoel / Jacare.

Gamebred · 01-03-2017 06:27PM

Another division clogged up now too, wont hear people moan though like they do about Conor.

dashoonage · 01-03-2017 06:33PM

Gamebred wrote: »

Another division clogged up now too, wont hear people moan though like they do about Conor.

the dont want no Yoel as champ...christ the WME era is a ****ing joke. Whats the point of working your way to no 1 contender anymore.

Django99 · 01-03-2017 06:36PM

Yoel and Jacare for the number one contender without Yoel taking banned substances will probably happen so.

dashoonage · 01-03-2017 06:37PM

This is all Lukes fault.

Gamebred · 01-03-2017 06:37PM

He shouldnt have to, he beat Jacare (officially) not long ago, Romero Jacare Mousasi and possibly Rockhold all getting ****ed over for the next year with this.

Lukker- · 01-03-2017 06:39PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lukker- · 01-03-2017 06:47PM

Jacare vs the winner of Weidman/Mouasasi

and Rockhold vs Yoel?

Whoever wins in most decisive fashion gets the shot.

Whoever gets the next shot it will be at least 12 months from now, with the other waiting at least 18 months.

I reckon we're gonna be seeing more interim straps to sort this out.

Lukker- · 01-03-2017 06:52PM

Dana said the Conor vs GSP fight never came close to happening.

dashoonage · 01-03-2017 06:52PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Dana said the Conor vs GSP fight never came close to happening.

its guaranteed to happen so.

callaway92 · 01-03-2017 06:53PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Dana said the Conor vs GSP fight never came close to happening.

I don't believe a letter of that.

GSP v Conor is 100% what they would've been wanting to do.

Lukker- · 01-03-2017 06:53PM

I actually think GSP is taking the Bisping fight cos he wants nothing to do with Woodley. If he wins I don't expect him to defend the strap, he said before coming back that he was only interested in the big(money) fights.

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